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All im saying is, that muslim follow the same god as the Christian. Is just that christians dont follow some old testament commandments but some Muslims do.
And im not sure God only said to kill the canaanites. It looks to me like he is speaking in general.
They do NOT follow the same God. Their god has a different name, different attributes, and is from the imaginations of a man who lived 500 years after Christ, and centuries after creation. Our scripture is so ancient it was only oral, not even written down for years and years, and our written word is thousands of years old.
 
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They do NOT follow the same God. Their god has a different name, different attributes, and is from the imaginations of a man who lived 500 years after Christ, and centuries after creation. Our scripture is so ancient it was only oral, not even written down for years and years, and our written word is thousands of years old.
What are you talking about, they believe in the old testamebt, their God is the God of Abraham and the name of Allah is just a different translation, which mean God.

The koran was writting after the old testament just like the new testament was writting after the old testament.

Im not supporting islam, but thats the truth.
Christianity came after Judaism
Islam came after Judaism

Same thing.

What do you mean different attributes?
 
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Belief as used with regard to failth in Jesus is not mere mental acknowledgement. It is discipleship that is genuine and endures to end of one's life or the end of times.
 
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Jda016

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What are you talking about, they believe in the old testamebt, their God is the God of Abraham and the name of Allah is just a different translation, which mean God.

The koran was writting after the old testament just like the new testament was writting after the old testament.

Im not supporting islam, but thats the truth.
Christianity came after Judaism
Islam came after Judaism

Same thing.

What do you mean different attributes?
actually there is evidence to support that "Allah" was the god of the moon in pre-Islamic times and as such, is not the God of the Bible.

Also there is over a thousand years of bloodshed between Muslims/Arabs and Jews. They both believe radically different things. It is hard for me to imagine why people say they worship the same God when clearly, they do not. Tell any practicing Jew that they worship the same God as Muslims and you are likely to be spit on. Just saying.
 
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How did other religions started
You are not thinking what I said through.

What other religion started where its teacher was tortured and killed by the very people he came to save and had all his closest confidants running for their lives? If anyone claimed that Jesus was Messiah they would have been killed (as the Jews tried to do after Jesus rose from the dead). There could NOT have been more resistance to Christ if anyone tried. If he did not rise from the dead, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that Christianity could have been started. Why would anyone risk being completely ostracized by the Jews, lose their families, homes, and lives if Jesus was dead? What is there to gain? But if he did rise from the dead, that changes everything!

Even Paul said that if Christ hadn't risen from the dead, everything he was saying was meaningless. The entire Church was established on Jesus being raised from the dead and that God did this, because Jesus is His Son.

I'd also like to point out that if Jesus was dead he would still be in the tomb. And believe you me the Pharisees would have put flashing neon lights all over the place to say that Jesus was dead and buried there. Why? Because they knew the claims that Christ would rise from the dead. The easiest way to squash that idea would be to have public tours of the tomb showing Jesus' dead body. There would be documents of the Pharisees gathering the Jews from all over to show Christ's body because they would have wanted to gloat over him. Yet there is none of that. All the more evidence to that He rose from the dead.
 
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What are you talking about, they believe in the old testamebt, their God is the God of Abraham and the name of Allah is just a different translation, which mean God.

The koran was writting after the old testament just like the new testament was writting after the old testament.

Im not supporting islam, but thats the truth.
Christianity came after Judaism
Islam came after Judaism

Same thing.

What do you mean different attributes?

Luis, you are trying to preach us the muslim approach, but we (christians) never accepted it.

Our christian God is Trinity. An Only Divine Deity with three personalities = God Father, God Son and God Holy Spirit.
Since we trust that the personality of Jesus Christ (His mind) was the same with God Son, we also confess Jesus as a God.

Mohhamad proclaimed Allah to be God of Abraham and himself as a prophet.

But we, christians never agree with both claim.

From our point of view:
1) God is Trinity
2) Mohhamad is not a prophed, at all.
3) Quaran is lie, and a book inspired by Devil.
4) Alllah (after belonging to Islam) is a name of false = non-existed God invented by Mohhamad in co-operation with fallen angels.

Besides those, please take into consideration that Christianity strictly teach to curse every one who try to preach christians idea that Jesus was not crusified (apostol Paul wrote it directly).
Since Mohhamed and his followers - muslims, claim that Jesus was not crusified, we curse you, and never agree with whole islamic approach.

You started the senseles argument. We never agree to accept Allah (explained in Quaran) as same God with our Holy Trinity.

The Doomsday will show you (and everyone) whose approach is right and whose God is real and whose book is falsefull.
 
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The troll is b-a-a-ck.

I hope he finds the answers he is looking for. This may well be the catalyst he needs in understanding the resolute faith of those who know Christ.
 
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Luis, you are trying to preach us the muslim approach, but we (christians) never accepted it.

Our christian God is Trinity. An Only Divine Deity with three personalities = God Father, God Son and God Holy Spirit.
Since we trust that the personality of Jesus Christ (His mind) was the same with God Son, we also confess Jesus as a God.

Mohhamad proclaimed Allah to be God of Abraham and himself as a prophet.

But we, christians never agree with both claim.

From our point of view:
1) God is Trinity
2) Mohhamad is not a prophed, at all.
3) Quaran is lie, and a book inspired by Devil.
4) Alllah (after belonging to Islam) is a name of false = non-existed God invented by Mohhamad in co-operation with fallen angels.

Besides those, please take into consideration that Christianity strictly teach to curse every one who try to preach christians idea that Jesus was not crusified (apostol Paul wrote it directly).
Since Mohhamed and his followers - muslims, claim that Jesus was not crusified, we curse you, and never agree with whole islamic approach.

You started the senseles argument. We never agree to accept Allah (explained in Quaran) as same God with our Holy Trinity.

The Doomsday will show you (and everyone) whose approach is right and whose God is real and whose book is falsefull.
When Christians spread the Word of the Gospels, I've always found that they do so by sharing their JOY in the love they have received. In that, many have been drawn by the power they see in those who have endeavored to know Christ and his message. By arguing against (others') truth, and not for 'their' truth is evidence of false doctrine in my eyes.
 
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When Christians spread the Word of the Gospels, I've always found that they do so by sharing their JOY in the love they have received. In that, many have been drawn by the power they see in those who have endeavored to know Christ and his message. By arguing against (others') truth, and not for 'their' truth is evidence of false doctrine in my eyes.

The fallen spend a great deal of effort arguing against God's beloved. Angel Michael gave us God's will in how to respond:

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Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil as he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you.


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Feb 21, 2014
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Im sorry i said anything.
Is always gonna be the same thing
My belif is right and they are wrong.

Look at the Buddhism
That religion is more peaceful than any other religions in this world and is still false right??

So is not about peacefulness or good dotrine is just about believing what you want to believe.
 
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Jda016

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Im sorry i said anything.
Is always gonna be the same thing
My belif is right and they are wrong.

Look at the Buddhism
That religion is more peaceful than any other religions in this world and is still false right??

So is not about peacefulness or good dotrine is just about believing what you want to believe.
Well Buddhism may teach peace with fellow man, but Christianity is the only religion that teaches peace and reconciliation with God. What is greater? Peace with man or peace with the One who made you?
 
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The fallen spend a great deal of effort arguing against God's beloved. Angel Michael gave us God's will in how to respond:

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[TD]Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil as he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you.

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God is silent in the presence of the unholy. He does not know them.
 
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danalee

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Well Buddhism may teach peace with fellow man, but Christianity is the only religion that teaches peace and reconciliation with God. What is greater? Peace with man or peace with the One who made you?
And they will find out, sadly. Do not deny the miracle of your being here, do not attribute that to a man-made 'nirvana' that the flesh has inspired. Everything good comes from God. If you are witnessing, it is because he has chosen you to witness and not by any action of your being.

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[TD]For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.



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Elin

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All im saying is, that muslim follow the same god as the Christian. Is just that christians dont follow some old testament commandments but some Muslims do.
And im not sure God only said to kill the canaanites. It looks to me like he is speaking in general.
The Bible is a closed book to you, troll.
 
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When Christians spread the Word of the Gospels, I've always found that they do so by sharing their JOY in the love they have received. In that, many have been drawn by the power they see in those who have endeavored to know Christ and his message. By arguing against (others') truth, and not for 'their' truth is evidence of false doctrine in my eyes.
Verbal argument in most cases (99%) is senseless shaking of air. Apostols converted (even magicians) by power - supernatural gifts of Spirit.

Yes for as the True and Joy is Christ. But it is narrow path. So false religions will always be outnumbered (like now muslims are majority).

I sure in Doomsday their idol, Mohhamad, will be found as most hated creature in universe. Now they follow his falsefull pseudo-scriptures. Then they will be eager to eat him alife.
 

Elin

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Not a closed book, is just that is kinda unscientific and it dont make sense
That's how it is experienced by those to whom it is a closed book.

God doesn't cast his pearls before those who don't appreciate them.
 

Elin

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Im sorry i said anything.
Is always gonna be the same thing
My belif is right and they are wrong.

Look at the Buddhism
That religion is more peaceful than any other religions in this world and is still false right??

So is not about peacefulness or good dotrine is just about believing what you want to believe.
And you are the arbiter of "good doctrine," troll?
 

Elin

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What are you talking about, they believe in the old testamebt, their God is the God of Abraham and the name of Allah is just a different translation, which mean God.

The koran was writting after the old testament just like the new testament was writting after the old testament.

Im not supporting islam, but thats the truth.
Christianity came after Judaism
Islam came after Judaism

Same thing.

What do you mean different attributes?
Did their God send his one and only Son to die in payment of the penalty for sin?
 

Elin

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Jan 19, 2013
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You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Is the same thing the Muslim do, the bible teach it so why cant they do it too.

The bible is not just the new testament, is the old and new.

Plus God did kill people for that person that say that God didnt kill
Is there a point here, troll?