What Laws are still valid to christians
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God works are the by-product of Faith in the finished works of God through Son Christ. Thanks Doug, for your words of encouragement
Abraham, was justified by Faith, counted as righteous for he believed God, sanctification was the doing what God said to do.
The works Abraham did were the by-product of his believing God, as this is the same for all who beleive, and if the by-product is love, then it is from God and by God through Son Christ
Abraham, was justified by Faith, counted as righteous for he believed God, sanctification was the doing what God said to do.
The works Abraham did were the by-product of his believing God, as this is the same for all who beleive, and if the by-product is love, then it is from God and by God through Son Christ
I am full of God's love to all:
[h=3]Luke 6:32-40[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP]“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. [SUP]34 [/SUP]And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. [SUP]35 [/SUP]But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
[h=3]Judging Others[/h][SUP]37 [/SUP]“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. [SUP]38 [/SUP]Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
[SUP]39 [/SUP]He also told them this parable: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit? [SUP]40 [/SUP]The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher.
[h=3]Luke 6:32-40[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP]“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. [SUP]34 [/SUP]And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. [SUP]35 [/SUP]But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
[h=3]Judging Others[/h][SUP]37 [/SUP]“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. [SUP]38 [/SUP]Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
[SUP]39 [/SUP]He also told them this parable: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit? [SUP]40 [/SUP]The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher.
Thank you and to you as well as many others here on this sight as we each grow in helping one another without forcing any one to drink this water from God the taste is much better when in agreement to drink not forced.
Ther are fake trees and there are real ones. The fake ones do looik good and act it out as that. But when you take a bite and get a mouth full of wax, you know you somehow got error in your truth, which we all get from time to time as the
[h=3]Luke 6:32-40[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP]“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. [SUP]34 [/SUP]And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. [SUP]35 [/SUP]But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
[h=3]Judging Others[/h][SUP]37 [/SUP]“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. [SUP]38 [/SUP]Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
[SUP]39 [/SUP]He also told them this parable: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit? [SUP]40 [/SUP]The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher
The battle is not over in the fighting of flesh and the Spirit of God, to bringing home the sheep
Mercy over sacrifice is what i see as being the utmost importance, Mercy we have received, think Mercy we shall give to only a select few? or to all?
Ther are fake trees and there are real ones. The fake ones do looik good and act it out as that. But when you take a bite and get a mouth full of wax, you know you somehow got error in your truth, which we all get from time to time as the
[h=3]Luke 6:32-40[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP]“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. [SUP]34 [/SUP]And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. [SUP]35 [/SUP]But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
[h=3]Judging Others[/h][SUP]37 [/SUP]“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. [SUP]38 [/SUP]Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
[SUP]39 [/SUP]He also told them this parable: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit? [SUP]40 [/SUP]The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher
The battle is not over in the fighting of flesh and the Spirit of God, to bringing home the sheep
Mercy over sacrifice is what i see as being the utmost importance, Mercy we have received, think Mercy we shall give to only a select few? or to all?
So by chance are you afraid to jump off the cliff, seeing no bottom if you jump, saying to God hey I am doing pretty good at obeying Law, not perfect, but I am trying and you want me to jump? I would be left to uncontrollable circumstances, letting go of me trying to obey law through trusting you. I am not jumping to the unknown.
And God says Doug and everyone else under Law, Jump, Jump, jump. For I (God) am real and will catch you in the palm of my (God's) hand, and lead you by Faith in me (God) the rest of your life here on earth and forever afterwards
Faith is believing in God the unknown, and God makes himself known.
And God says Doug and everyone else under Law, Jump, Jump, jump. For I (God) am real and will catch you in the palm of my (God's) hand, and lead you by Faith in me (God) the rest of your life here on earth and forever afterwards
Faith is believing in God the unknown, and God makes himself known.
Okay and thank you for the correction, yet is what I said truth or error?
Originally Posted by homwardbound
Maybe you miss read what Paul was conveying. He was not conveying this as he was still caught up in the Flesh. Rather how we can't perform in the flesh and need the hidden man of our heart to follow. Foe he is clear that with the Holy Spirit ( the hidden man of his heart) he serves God perfectly
So the instruction is to put no confidence in the flesh, and consider it dead as it starts out with the allegory of a married woman if husband dead she is freed and can marry another
Anyway, I see you as not seeing what Paul was trying to convey to us
All in love to you. Something to think on or not your choice
Maybe you miss read what Paul was conveying. He was not conveying this as he was still caught up in the Flesh. Rather how we can't perform in the flesh and need the hidden man of our heart to follow. Foe he is clear that with the Holy Spirit ( the hidden man of his heart) he serves God perfectly
So the instruction is to put no confidence in the flesh, and consider it dead as it starts out with the allegory of a married woman if husband dead she is freed and can marry another
Anyway, I see you as not seeing what Paul was trying to convey to us
All in love to you. Something to think on or not your choice
H
Homwardbound, I think I would be more with you .IF, you stop making stupid statements that GLORIFY the fleshly, shallow LOVE which you appear to teach, but which you ,in fact, don't teach. , by pushing UNDEFINED LOVE as your GOD, If you would define LOVE as obeying the commandments of God, I would agree with You, BUT, you keep throwing away God's
HOLY and GOOD laws for your idol of LOVE and FAITH. I don't think you under stand how you come across to me. as promoting a loose living idolater. NOW, please guard your words and your reactions to the great truth I am Teaching, and I think, I would see you as more of a balanced thinker of the truth "according to godliness". your reaction to me in your post 4407 is sooo stupid and "down right" sinful to TESTING God. God forbids us to test Him, and "leap into the dark". like,an example of your thinking, would be jump out in front of a mad crowd and shout," you are all going to hell" you would probably get killed by the mob of evil people. Not good to test God's protection. God gives us a brain, and expect we use it, like,paul said "don't fight and quarrel", but be patient in correcting them. Please study hard what I say, it is all directly from the Bible. this is a message to all who question my teaching. Get into the MEAT of the word. TRY to see the obvious meaning of God's word. The end time deception is sooo bad, I can cut it with a knife, I can smell it all the way here in the Phlippines. LOL NOW, your posts 4409 & 4410 are GREAT! You can say it RIGHT, when you try hard and think clearly. AMEN!? LOVE you. love to all, Hoffco
HOLY and GOOD laws for your idol of LOVE and FAITH. I don't think you under stand how you come across to me. as promoting a loose living idolater. NOW, please guard your words and your reactions to the great truth I am Teaching, and I think, I would see you as more of a balanced thinker of the truth "according to godliness". your reaction to me in your post 4407 is sooo stupid and "down right" sinful to TESTING God. God forbids us to test Him, and "leap into the dark". like,an example of your thinking, would be jump out in front of a mad crowd and shout," you are all going to hell" you would probably get killed by the mob of evil people. Not good to test God's protection. God gives us a brain, and expect we use it, like,paul said "don't fight and quarrel", but be patient in correcting them. Please study hard what I say, it is all directly from the Bible. this is a message to all who question my teaching. Get into the MEAT of the word. TRY to see the obvious meaning of God's word. The end time deception is sooo bad, I can cut it with a knife, I can smell it all the way here in the Phlippines. LOL NOW, your posts 4409 & 4410 are GREAT! You can say it RIGHT, when you try hard and think clearly. AMEN!? LOVE you. love to all, Hoffco
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[SUP]5 [/SUP]And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. [SUP]6 [/SUP]And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart.
- Deuteronomy 6:5-6
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37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
- Matthew 22:37-39
- Deuteronomy 6:5-6
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37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
- Matthew 22:37-39
Unfortunately you are not interpreting what i say correctly. I do not promote flesh at all. I promote God in the Spirit of God where today is the only way Father is worshiped true or false?
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Either one is in the flesh and does not reckon it dead and remains dead, acting alive by good works of the flesh seeking rewards from others.
Or he reckons himself dead to flesh with Christ at the cross, being, been co-crucified with Christ. thus made back alive in the Spirit of Father, a gift to us those that believe and thus we walk as he walked, no more consciousness of sin
Hope and pray you might now see what I am saying in Spirit not flesh:
Acts 17:28 for in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Galatians 2:20
I am crucifiedwithChrist: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Asking God to assure me and cause you and me to stand in truth that sets us free from worry, as is waht Christ came to do and did through the cross that includes the resurrected Christ. Without the resurrection I would still be in my sins. Thanking god from God's view I am not, for Christ took them all away at the cross.
Renewing ones mind is to see from God's vantage point not man's.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Either one is in the flesh and does not reckon it dead and remains dead, acting alive by good works of the flesh seeking rewards from others.
Or he reckons himself dead to flesh with Christ at the cross, being, been co-crucified with Christ. thus made back alive in the Spirit of Father, a gift to us those that believe and thus we walk as he walked, no more consciousness of sin
Hope and pray you might now see what I am saying in Spirit not flesh:
Acts 17:28 for in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Galatians 2:20
I am crucifiedwithChrist: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Asking God to assure me and cause you and me to stand in truth that sets us free from worry, as is waht Christ came to do and did through the cross that includes the resurrected Christ. Without the resurrection I would still be in my sins. Thanking god from God's view I am not, for Christ took them all away at the cross.
Renewing ones mind is to see from God's vantage point not man's.
I desire for no one to be with me, rather for all to be with God first and foremost and then we collectively meet togather and debate waht each other sees and trust God to sort out what we hear from others for is bottom line God who causes us to stand and therefore "I" personally refrain form judging others, knowing God does love all.
He forgave me for all, in response how can one not love back? Is not Love God's type the way, truth and new life. Keep the focus on sin and one continues in it. Can't escape it.
Start the praise and worship band, being so busy there so busy time for sin has gotten neglected and that fire for sin goes out
He forgave me for all, in response how can one not love back? Is not Love God's type the way, truth and new life. Keep the focus on sin and one continues in it. Can't escape it.
Start the praise and worship band, being so busy there so busy time for sin has gotten neglected and that fire for sin goes out
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
So, if we are led by the Spirit, what we do does not matter, it is not sin?
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
So no matter what is done it is not sin because there is no sin where there is no Law.
Seems to me there is some Law mentioned here...
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Adn some penalty involved also. If one breaks these Laws, he will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
So, if we are led by the Spirit, what we do does not matter, it is not sin?
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
So no matter what is done it is not sin because there is no sin where there is no Law.
Seems to me there is some Law mentioned here...
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Adn some penalty involved also. If one breaks these Laws, he will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
H
Homwardbound, this is your confusion,thinking Jesus did it all on the cross, NO WAY HOSA! Sorry, just an expression to cut the ice. Jesus did not take your sins away on the cross. Jesus paid for our sins on the cross; But Jesus put my sins away from me when He saved me in 1961, with the new birth. The Spirit with the new birth killed the "law of sin and death" when Jesus saved us today. Love to all. Hoffco
1961 is when you received the truth of what Christ did on the cross before you were ever born.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
You can separate it anyway you choose, Facts are facts, when Christ went to the cross how many sins did he die for? All. a few or just for an elect few?
And in the death for all sins, was that in this worlds eye sight or Father's?
Are we to renew our minds, in who's sight Father's through Christ or this world's and it gloss that it has taken on as if we are good?
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
You can separate it anyway you choose, Facts are facts, when Christ went to the cross how many sins did he die for? All. a few or just for an elect few?
And in the death for all sins, was that in this worlds eye sight or Father's?
Are we to renew our minds, in who's sight Father's through Christ or this world's and it gloss that it has taken on as if we are good?