Ok to be lesbian?

[Myers]

We are all sinners. Sinners sin. Jesus died for our sins. Having sex for plesure is a sin. This is the most written on the subject I have ever seen. It's good. But let me simplafy. It's about STD's. Sodomy Infections to kidnies, testicals and overies. Wemen can't sodomise each other like men. The Angels who dictated the KJV Bible so it could be encoded with the book of names. Angels know about the anomily on the first X cromisone. See Gay genetics. What the Press, Clergy and C2CAM won't tell you is the science. Be a Prepper !

 

[Elizabeth619]

Yeah I know and was just making a jest.....so sorry ha!

I understood what you meant.
I just wish people understood the bible in order to properly address these situations. The girl obviously has issues. No one can deny that, but casting out a demon that never existed in the first place is insane. Lilith is never mentioned as a demon in the bible and is part of Jewish mythology. Lilith is about as real as cupid and the easter bunny. In her mind she thinks Lilith is real, but she never existed.

As far as casting out demons over the internet the bible doesn't support this. Jesus and the apostles would cast out demons when they were in their presence. They didn't do this from a distance. 1 Timothy 5 shows us Paul didn't heal Timothy when he was sick in his letter to him, but pretty much told him to medicate himself. This misuse of something like this is highly dangerous, and people don't seem to think there is anything wrong with it. If Christ didn't give the authority to do so then one shouldn't even do it. If they continue to they is nothing more than witchcraft.

The OP needs help. Not only help from God but needs to seek medical help as well. The fact she thinks she is some demon and has powers is a sign of schizophrenia. Chances are she was abused by men in her past, and now hates men in general. This was a cry for help, and people were too busy believing in magic to see that. I pray she gets the help she needs.

 

[TheTruthAboutTheTruth]

Hi there let me just say the truth you won't like it but homosexuals (lesbians and gays) are not really homosexuals theres more to it then that but I'll be happy to message the explanation to you if you wish and to answer your Questions no Father-God does notapprove of homosexuality period it is an abomanation

 

[doseofreality]

I understood what you meant.
I just wish people understood the bible in order to properly address these situations. The girl obviously has issues. No one can deny that, but casting out a demon that never existed in the first place is insane. Lilith is never mentioned as a demon in the bible and is part of Jewish mythology. Lilith is about as real as cupid and the easter bunny. In her mind she thinks Lilith is real, but she never existed.

Side comment:
I can't help but notice the inference that If Lilith was mentioned in the Bible,Then it would negate the comment about being as real as easter bunny.
From an outside point of view it seems that when it comes to mythology the christian is completely biased if it is mentioned in the bible and if its not, then its obviously not real at all.
That is a logical fallacy called special pleading.

 

[danschance]

As far as casting out demons over the internet the bible doesn't support this. Jesus and the apostles would cast out demons when they were in their presence. They didn't do this from a distance.

I thought you knew the bible better than that. Jesus cast demons out when the person who had the demons was not present. Why limit God?

Mark 7:24-3024 Jesus got up and went away from there to the region of Tyre. And when He had entered a house, He wanted no one to know of it; yet He could not escape notice.25 But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet. 26 Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 27 And He was saying to her, “Let the children be satisfied first, for it is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 28 But she answered and said to Him, “Yes, Lord, but even the dogs under the table feed on the children’s crumbs.” 29 And He said to her, “Because of this answer go; the demon has gone out of your daughter.” 30And going back to her home, she found the child lying on the bed, the demon having left. Mark 7:24-30

Here Paul cast demons out of others by sending them a cloth.

11And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them. Acts 19:11-12

It is always wrong and sinful to teach others about what God can't do when He can do whatever He wants.

 

[Jda016]

Side comment:
I can't help but notice the inference that If Lilith was mentioned in the Bible,Then it would negate the comment about being as real as easter bunny.
From an outside point of view it seems that when it comes to mythology the christian is completely biased if it is mentioned in the bible and if its not, then its obviously not real at all.
That is a logical fallacy called special pleading.

well, Lilith is not in the Bible. It is in Jewish mythology as was said before me.

While Christians reject mythology, there is evidence (and I believe it) that certain "gods" in the Bible were actually demons, such as Moloch.

 

[dcontroversal]

I understood what you meant.
I just wish people understood the bible in order to properly address these situations. The girl obviously has issues. No one can deny that, but casting out a demon that never existed in the first place is insane. Lilith is never mentioned as a demon in the bible and is part of Jewish mythology. Lilith is about as real as cupid and the easter bunny. In her mind she thinks Lilith is real, but she never existed.

As far as casting out demons over the internet the bible doesn't support this. Jesus and the apostles would cast out demons when they were in their presence. They didn't do this from a distance. 1 Timothy 5 shows us Paul didn't heal Timothy when he was sick in his letter to him, but pretty much told him to medicate himself. This misuse of something like this is highly dangerous, and people don't seem to think there is anything wrong with it. If Christ didn't give the authority to do so then one shouldn't even do it. If they continue to they is nothing more than witchcraft.

The OP needs help. Not only help from God but needs to seek medical help as well. The fact she thinks she is some demon and has powers is a sign of schizophrenia. Chances are she was abused by men in her past, and now hates men in general. This was a cry for help, and people were too busy believing in magic to see that. I pray she gets the help she needs.

I agree...and this Lilith thing....!

 

[danschance]

Side comment:
I can't help but notice the inference that If Lilith was mentioned in the Bible,Then it would negate the comment about being as real as easter bunny.
From an outside point of view it seems that when it comes to mythology the christian is completely biased if it is mentioned in the bible and if its not, then its obviously not real at all.
That is a logical fallacy called special pleading.

You are creating a bizarre rant and over simplifying what Christians believe. Cars are not in the bible yet Christians do not believe them to be mythology or "not real". This counters your claim: "From an outside point of view it seems that when it comes to mythology the christian is completely biased if it is mentioned in the bible and if its not, then its obviously not real at all."

 

[Elizabeth619]

I thought you knew the bible better than that. Jesus cast demons out when the person who had the demons was not present. Why limit God?



Here Paul cast demons out of others by sending them a cloth.


It is always wrong and sinful to teach others about what God can't do when He can do whatever He wants.

Youre right, I should have been more explicit.
NO ONE said God CAN'T DO anything. Why insist that is what is being said? God can do anything he wants, but not even hHe will contradict his Word.
The womnn went to Jesus directly to ask for Him to save her daughter. That is a little different than doing it over the internet when one doesn;t know if she was just trolling or seriously mentally ill. You do not know the exact condition of a chatter. If she was simply trolling, and meant none of it and these people "cast out" a demon that was never there to begin with then they look like they are performing false miracles don't they.

Again, Paul healing via cloths is not the same. Is someone going to mail her cloth now? You also need to take into consideration what happened to those who were falsely trying to cast out demons.

Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” 14Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” 16Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.

They ended up running out of the house naked! Obviously not everyone has the power to do this, and this passage is a good lesson not to dabble in something you are ignorant in.

The point I am trying to make(laying aside the fact I am a cessationist) is just because someone "casts out" a demon is not evidence they have the authority to do so, and just because someone types a load of junk doesn't mean they are possessed. You cannot properly discern situations like this on a chat forum.

 

[danschance]

Hi there let me just say the truth you won't like it but homosexuals (lesbians and gays) are not really homosexuals theres more to it then that but I'll be happy to message the explanation to you if you wish and to answer your Questions no Father-God does notapprove of homosexuality period it is an abomanation

You might believe this rubbish but the bible very clearly and explicitly states the homosexuality is a sin. I could list them for you but you obviously don't wanted to be bothered by facts as you have an opinion.

 

[dcontroversal]

well, Lilith is not in the Bible. It is in Jewish mythology as was said before me.

While Christians reject mythology, there is evidence (and I believe it) that certain "gods" in the Bible were actually demons, such as Moloch.

I agree and will add that there is a lot of evidence that the Ancient gods were real entities that had powers (satanic) and actually were somewhat perceivable.....

When Jesus instructs John to write to the church which was located in Pergamos, Jesus makes reference to them dwelling where (SATAN'S SEAT) is located.....what was located there.....THE THRONE OF ZEUS.......I think it is the same age old attempt to unite humanity under one banner where a (satanic) empowered man is worshipped as God and goes all the way back to the geo-political-religious unification of man under Nimrod at the tower of (confusion).....

Egypt--Assyria--Babylon---Persia-----Greece---Rome---10 Horned Beast-->little Horn/Beast/Anti-Christ
Horus---BEL----Marduke--Merodach--Jupiter---Zeus----(------------------->ALLAH<----------------------)

 

[Elizabeth619]

well, Lilith is not in the Bible. It is in Jewish mythology as was said before me.

While Christians reject mythology, there is evidence (and I believe it) that certain "gods" in the Bible were actually demons, such as Moloch.

Moloch was a false god. He was never real. Demons, fallen angels, evil spirits, ect ARE real. Now there is the fact that if one is worshipping a false god they are obviously worshipping the devil, but that doesn't make Moloch actually "real".
The idea that Moloch was an actual god is from the book of Enoch which isn't even part of the bible, and should be avoided.

As a matter of fact I think the book of Enoch says that demons are ghosts of evil people who have died. The bible doesn't really support that.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I agree and will add that there is a lot of evidence that the Ancient gods were real entities that had powers (satanic) and actually were somewhat perceivable.....

When Jesus instructs John to write to the church which was located in Pergamos, Jesus makes reference to them dwelling where (SATAN'S SEAT) is located.....what was located there.....THE THRONE OF ZEUS.......I think it is the same age old attempt to unite humanity under one banner where a (satanic) empowered man is worshipped as God and goes all the way back to the geo-political-religious unification of man under Nimrod at the tower of (confusion).....

Egypt--Assyria--Babylon---Persia-----Greece---Rome---10 Horned Beast-->little Horn/Beast/Anti-Christ
Horus---BEL----Marduke--Merodach--Jupiter---Zeus----(------------------->ALLAH<----------------------)

On the other hand after what I just posted IF the false gods you are talking about were "real" that would make the Book of Enoch primarily true. After all that book talks about angels mating with women and teaching forbidden crafts such as making weapons, the art of writing, makeup and so on.

 

[danschance]

Youre right, I should have been more explicit.
NO ONE said God CAN'T DO anything. Why insist that is what is being said? God can do anything he wants, but not even hHe will contradict his Word.
The womnn went to Jesus directly to ask for Him to save her daughter. That is a little different than doing it over the internet when one doesn;t know if she was just trolling or seriously mentally ill. You do not know the exact condition of a chatter. If she was simply trolling, and meant none of it and these people "cast out" a demon that was never there to begin with then they look like they are performing false miracles don't they.

Again, Paul healing via cloths is not the same. Is someone going to mail her cloth now? You also need to take into consideration what happened to those who were falsely trying to cast out demons.



They ended up running out of the house naked! Obviously not everyone has the power to do this, and this passage is a good lesson not to dabble in something you are ignorant in.

The point I am trying to make(laying aside the fact I am a cessationist) is just because someone "casts out" a demon is not evidence they have the authority to do so, and just because someone types a load of junk doesn't mean they are possessed. You cannot properly discern situations like this on a chat forum.

I am sorry but your argument that demons can't be cast out unless you are physically present is invalid. In biblical times the internet or radio had not been invented. Today we have a prayer chat room on this very site and God does honor those prayers prayed in a virtual chat room. I have cast demons out of others via the internet many times. When you say that is impossible you are in fact limiting what God can and can not do. Jesus can cast a demon out of anyone anywhere in any circumstance because He is God.

 

[dcontroversal]

On the other hand after what I just posted IF the false gods you are talking about were "real" that would make the Book of Enoch primarily true. After all that book talks about angels mating with women and teaching forbidden crafts such as making weapons, the art of writing, makeup and so on.

Yeah I have scanned the books of Enoch and Jasher.....both of which are referenced or alluded to no less than 6 times in the bible....still out on if they are credible and or worthy of thought....As far as what I posted..this is my conclusion after 27 years of studying secular history concerning the nations listed and the bible....Jesus' reference to the THRONE OF SATAN and it being tied to the Throne of Zeus was the capstone if you will to coming to the conclusion that I have come to.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I am sorry but your argument that demons can't be cast out unless you are physically present is invalid. In biblical times the internet or radio had not been invented. Today we have a prayer chat room on this very site and God does honor those prayers prayed in a virtual chat room. I have cast demons out of others via the internet many times. When you say that is impossible you are in fact limiting what God can and can not do. Jesus can cast a demon out of anyone anywhere in any circumstance because He is God.

Never once did I say that God cannot cast out demons. Never once did I say God has no power. Never once did I limit God and his capabilities. What I am limiting is man. Remember, I am a cessationist. I don't even believe in possession anymore(but thats a whole other topic)

 

[Elizabeth619]

I thought you knew the bible better than that. Jesus cast demons out when the person who had the demons was not present. Why limit God?



Here Paul cast demons out of others by sending them a cloth.


It is always wrong and sinful to teach others about what God can't do when He can do whatever He wants.

I forgot to mention that the cloths that healed people touched the skin of Paul. Obviously Paul touching them was important. He was an apostle and did see the resurrected Christ. Paul had the power through God, and had the authority. That doesn't mean everyone else does.

 

[Jda016]

Moloch was a false god. He was never real. Demons, fallen angels, evil spirits, ect ARE real. Now there is the fact that if one is worshipping a false god they are obviously worshipping the devil, but that doesn't make Moloch actually "real".
The idea that Moloch was an actual god is from the book of Enoch which isn't even part of the bible, and should be avoided.

As a matter of fact I think the book of Enoch says that demons are ghosts of evil people who have died. The bible doesn't really support that.

I wasn't trying to inference Enoch. Lets just say that there was serious demonic activity behind the name of Moloch, for what other reason would people throw new born babes into a fire in order to worship it?

 

[Elizabeth619]

I wasn't trying to inference Enoch. Lets just say that there was serious demonic activity behind the name of Moloch, for what other reason would people throw new born babes into a fire in order to worship it?

Ignorance, stupidity, not being of God.

It is interesting you mentioned Moloch though. Many times he/it is referenced in pro-life debates. And rightly so.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Do you all think we should kind of let this thread go, and make another thread? The OP was banned so it does kinda need to fade into the distance. It has obviously brought up some interesting debate. I have to get going now, but how about someone make another thread abou false gods, etc. I would but I don't want to make a thread and then bail on it. Just a suggestion.