Could The Moscow Madman Turn The World Into Radio Active Ash?

[kayem77]

I REALLLLY don't like McCain, but here is a start:

JOHN MCCAIN: Here Are 11 Things Obama Should Do About Ukraine Right Now | Business Insider India




Also, this situation does not exist in a vacuum. His incredible weakness from the day he took office has had a cumulative effect on aggressors and evil govs.

Again, I don't think what Putin did is very different from what other countries have done before (including the US). So all the outrage over a nation seceding by means of democratic vote doesn't make sense to me. I understand being wary of the situation, and making sure that the election was fair, and that Russia wasn't forcing anyone's vote or that there weren't Human Rights violations. But Crimea is more of Russia's business that the US'. And Russia is no third world country. It would be foolish to sever relations with Russia, or even worse, to anger Russia over something that's more their business than anyone else's.

 

[kayem77]

I'm no politcal expert, but I think Ron Paul's response is more rational and sober minded.

Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Again, I don't think what Putin did is very different from what other countries have done before (including the US). So all the outrage over a nation seceding by means of democratic vote doesn't make sense to me. I understand being wary of the situation, and making sure that the election was fair, and that Russia wasn't forcing anyone's vote or that there weren't Human Rights violations. But Crimea is more of Russia's business that the US'. And Russia is no third world country. It would be foolish to sever relations with Russia, or even worse, to anger Russia over something that's more their business than anyone else's.

Would the US tolerate street protesters in the Western Hemisphere gaining political control over its nuclear fleet?

The US would not tolerate it in the ports of the Gulf of Mexico, any more than the Russians would tolerate it in Crimea. (When Nixon visited Venezuela as VP in '58 and his car was surrounded by angry protesters, Eisenhower ordered the navy to sail towards Venezuela.)

Both touchy feely folk and gung ho military leaders thought JFK was a wimp during the Cuban Missile Crisis.....until JFK and RFK diplomatically resolved the crisis by removing US missiles from Turkey in the USSR's backyard, while the USSR removed missiles from Cuba.

Today, the easiest thing do to would be to let touchy feely folk, Ukrainian exiles and gung ho military-industrial leaders drag the US into a war, that most people don't want, which would be all about re-arranging the deck-chairs in Russia's backyard.

 

[PennEd]

I'm no politcal expert, but I think Ron Paul's response is more rational and sober minded.

Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

It is a real shame how the left has destroyed our school system. Even fairly recent history isn't being taught. Russia is using THE EXACT same exuses Adolph Hitler used when he "Annexed" the Sudetenland portion of Czechoslovakia.

Meanwhile, President obama is hard at work as the world erupts all around...

White House Makes March Madness All About Obama, Touts “Baracketology”… | Weasel Zippers

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I think the bigger problem caused by the citizens of Crimea exercising the power of democracy to align with the Russian Federation is in the EU itself as many European nation EU members are just beginning to act independently again in accordance with the will of their respective populations.

Sweden, the UK, etc... all have democracy movements afoot (some of them very libertarian such as the UKIP) against the totalitarianism of the EU. They want each EU nation as an independent sovereign nation respecting the will of the people in each nation but aligned on matters of trade and defense: but NOT aligned with the EU as the increasingly totalitarian entity it has become.

A threat from Russia can put that in jeopardy. So while I respect the political democrat will of the Crimean people, Russia needs to end with Crimea (which is also in line with respecting the will of the Crimean people and other people groups who do not wish to be aligned with Russia). Russia has stated Crimea is their sole objective.

I'm no politcal expert, but I think Ron Paul's response is more rational and sober minded.

Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

 

[dcontroversal]

Your numbers are off. Thirty minutes or less are required for a nuclear-armed land-based Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) to travel between the U.S. and Russia and vice versa; fifteen minutes or less for a Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) to reach its target in line with the launch on warning policy which the U.S. and Russia have (the only two nations known to have such a policy).

U.S. and Russian presidents have at most twelve minutes to make the decision to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike before the arrival of the perceived attack.

That's the reason for the instant communications carried at all times by both U.S. and Russian presidents. They can pick up the phone 24/7 and immediately get the other.

What you're omitting is that it DOES work both ways, even if you're eschatological "model" doesn't assert that it does, and also that a sophisticated early warning system is in place which would determine if it was an all out attack or simply a rogue launch with limited strike potential which would not result in a massive retaliatory reactive strike.

My numbers were good and notice the underlined and bolded and your response is assuming that they are...
1. Talking
2. The phones work
3. There is somebody to respond

I did not list all the facts such as...

Her young men of war remain in their strongholds and forbear to fight...
Her technology and her counselors all fail....
She looses all of her young men of war in ONE HOUR.....which is closer...30 minutes, 15 minutes or LESS THAN 55?

Originally Posted by dcontroversal
Or maybe his in ability to have any spine and his continual indecision will lead to a belief that it can be done--> (the destruction of the U.S.) If the leaders were to hesitate for less than 55 minutes.....that is all it takes for Russian ICBM's to reach American soil from Russia, from the North, from Hence!


for less than 55 minutes.....that is all it takes for Russian ICBM's to reach American soil from Russia, from the North, from Hence!

Both your answers can fit within my LESS THAN STATEMENT....so we are both right!

 

[dcontroversal]

Last famous words! lol...

I agree as one of the characteristics of the Daughter of Babylon is that (SHE) has no fear of invasion.....

 

[Stephen63]

CAN Russia do this? Sure, but only if God allows it. Read Genesis again to see that God changes the decisions of world leaders.

Will the US be destroyed? Well, according to history, we are the NEW WORLD (Order), according to Columbus, who was............? (I'm not gonna give a 12 paragraph story if nobody's gonna read it)

 

[biscuit]

An anchor on a Russian state owned TV station said.


State TV says Russia could turn US to 'radioactive ash'

This really influenced my thinking.

I think of the psychology of an active shooter.
The only thing on their mind is death.
They have no regard for their own self.
They're willing to perish.

We rarely hear of this character trait applied to a world leader.


In the past cold war, there was a certain understanding that those in power had some regard for life.
Those in power knew that human life was on the line behind all the threats and rhetoric.
They knew they could be held accountable for war crimes.

What if Putin is different?
What if Putin doesn't care?
What if Putin has the madman makeup of an active shooter?
What if he gets cornered by the international community and decides to take the world down with him?

This is a man who has the ability to turn the world into radio active ash with one command.

Putin has an estimated 8,420 nuclear warheads at his disposal according to CNN.
Nuclear weapons: Who has what?

One potential madman with possibly no regard for others and no regard for himself, with one command, could launch 8,420 nukes upon the world.

A man with no regard for himself doesn't care about losing power through losing a war.
A man with no regard for himself doesn't care about being tried for war crimes.
A man with no regard for himself doesn't care about sanctions.

Is Putin showing the signs of a madman?
Is he wise enough to care about his own well being?
What if he is pushed into a corner?
What if pushing him into a corner is actually a bad thing?

Russia will initiate Armageddon or World War III: Ezekiel 38:1-3; Ekekiel 38:15-16; Ezekiel 39:1-4; Joel 2:20. I just don't think it is God's will for Russia to destroy the USA.

 

[John_agape]

I live near the Russian border, and I saw two fighter jets, MIGs, doing aerobatics yesterday. Their vapor trails made a shape of a heart. So it can't be all that bad.

 

[kayem77]

I think the bigger problem caused by the citizens of Crimea exercising the power of democracy to align with the Russian Federation is in the EU itself as many European nation EU members are just beginning to act independently again in accordance with the will of their respective populations.

Sweden, the UK, etc... all have democracy movements afoot (some of them very libertarian such as the UKIP) against the totalitarianism of the EU. They want each EU nation as an independent sovereign nation respecting the will of the people in each nation but aligned on matters of trade and defense: but NOT aligned with the EU as the increasingly totalitarian entity it has become.

A threat from Russia can put that in jeopardy. So while I respect the political democrat will of the Crimean people, Russia needs to end with Crimea (which is also in line with respecting the will of the Crimean people and other people groups who do not wish to be aligned with Russia). Russia has stated Crimea is their sole objective.

I don't necessarily support Russia, but I really can't condemn them either. I feel that a strong opposition against Crimea's secession wouldn't be fair, since other countries and regions have done that before. We don't even need to look that far. Texas is a good example of this. Texas became independent from Mexico and later on the US annexed it to its territory. The same with California, and well you know the rest. No one was claiming the US was becoming a Nazi state because of this. There were A LOT of Mexicans in those areas (still are). The same with Crimea. There are a lot of Russians in that area, because it belonged to Russia.

The relationship between Mexico and the US wasn't very good for a while after that happened, but that didn't mean that the US was planning to destroy the world. So to say that about Russia to me is just a paranoid reaction, and makes the US look afraid of Russia. Maybe the ideal situation would have been to let Crimea be its own country, not part of Russia or part of Ukraine, but I don't see what other solution there would be right now, since the people apparently don't want to be part of Ukraine.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

It is a real shame how the left has destroyed our school system. Even fairly recent history isn't being taught. Russia is using THE EXACT same exuses Adolph Hitler used when he "Annexed" the Sudetenland portion of Czechoslovakia.

Meanwhile, President obama is hard at work as the world erupts all around...

White House Makes March Madness All About Obama, Touts “Baracketology”… | Weasel Zippers

Ironically the only politician to draw this parallel (and I agree with her and you by the way) is the champion of the American Left; Hillary Clinton.

Article from when the Crimea Crisis first began where the Hilldog compared Tsar Putin to Hitler:
Hillary Clinton compares Putin to Hitler – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

Now I want to add a personal note here, I am not a Hillary supporter at all. In fact Hillary is probably one of the elites I am most against (moreso for her domestic policy, though I do think she is okay on foreign policy, certainly the most experienced person in the coutnry at this time.) However, this is Geo-Politics, and the Democrat and GOP Parties are equally abhorrent and worthless, and on Geo-political stage, so much more worthless are the Parties. So even though I traditionally oppose Hillary a lot, I gotta admit, of all the Star Politicians at the moment, she is the only one that seems to me to have the grit and courage to call out Putin for what he is.


Lol this has left me in a somewhat wierd position in which I actually am starting to favor the politician I like the least, Hillary, for President since she is the only one with the meddle to stand up to the Iron Tsar (lol and I should add I never thought I would say those words "Hillary for President" in the same sentence together.)