The Holy Spirit and the Supernatural Orb Explored (Scripture Examined)

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notforgotten said:
Here is a photograph of the supernatural orb in church:
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Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

What you have here is an example of what the Holy Spirit might look like bearing witness to people in church worshiping God.
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Notice in the above picture that no one is noticing the orbs? Why aren't the people on stage pointing to them! Not a single person in the crowd is pointing at them either. That is because these orbs are just dust particles that are close to the lens and reflecting the light from the flash. It is a common undesirable photographic artifact.

Here is an article from a paranormal perspective that argues that all pictures of orbs be ignored as paranormal evidence.
Enough already with talking about orbs as paranormal
 
danschance said:
Notice in the above picture that no one is noticing the orbs? Why aren't the people on stage pointing to them! Not a single person in the crowd is pointing at them either. That is because these orbs are just dust particles that are close to the lens and reflecting the light from the flash. It is a common undesirable photographic artifact.

Here is an article from a paranormal perspective that argues that all pictures of orbs be ignored as paranormal evidence.
Enough already with talking about orbs as paranormal
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Although orb pictures are captured from the flash of a camera, orbs are not artifacts. Articles such as the above are written by people who have never, ever even seen an orb themselves. I've seen orbs with my naked eyes and here are testimonies of people who have really seen orbs for themselves:

Bright White Orb Of Light

Enough from people who have never, ever even seen an orb for themselves in their entire lives.
 
Here's another artist rendition of Ezekiel's Vision of God:
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Father God, Cherubim and the wheels appeared before Ezekiel. The wheels are obviously not Jesus. The wheels are not some lifeless chariot or alien U.F.O. It is very simple, the wheels are a description of the Holy Spirit.


Notice how much Ezekiel's wheels look like the supernatural orb:
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That is because Ezekiel's wheels and the supernatural orb are one and the same Holy Spirit.

Congratulations, my brothers and sisters, now you know what the Holy Spirit looks like.
 
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I spoke with a man who was into something called Hoodoo he said he saw a dragon. I have seen shadow people and a glowing face in my bedroom mirror. Some people claim to seen angels. Dr. Walter Martin said a man in a body appeared to some people. Many people have seen wild stuff. You have seen an orb and I believe it.

I just think it is all demonic and has nothing to do with God at all. You are here daily adding photos of dust particles and yet you have not mentioned Jesus or any edifying subject beyond orbs. You claim orbs are the Holy Spirit buy I don't think anyone believes you.
 
danschance said:
I spoke with a man who was into something called Hoodoo he said he saw a dragon. I have seen shadow people and a glowing face in my bedroom mirror. Some people claim to seen angels. Dr. Walter Martin said a man in a body appeared to some people. Many people have seen wild stuff. You have seen an orb and I believe it.

I just think it is all demonic and has nothing to do with God at all. You are here daily adding photos of dust particles and yet you have not mentioned Jesus or any edifying subject beyond orbs. You claim orbs are the Holy Spirit buy I don't think anyone believes you.
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The difference between you and I is that I know I am correct and you merely believe that I'm wrong. You are entitled to your opinion and can speak for yourself, but you can not speak for other people. In heaven, you will know the truth as well.
 
notforgotten said:
The difference between you and I is that I know I am correct and you merely believe that I'm wrong. You are entitled to your opinion and can speak for yourself, but you can not speak for other people. In heaven, you will know the truth as well.
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I hear God speak to me several times a month or more. I have no need to chase after paranormal phenomena.
 
notforgotten said:
here are testimonies of people who have really seen orbs for themselves:

Bright White Orb Of Light
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Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
(John 16:13-14)

i don't believe the photographs. light is a wonderful thing and it's easy for a person not to recognize what they see when it's been captured on film or by a photoreceptive sensor.

i do believe that people have supernatural encounters. also that there are many spirits, and not all of God.
i read a lot of the accounts in that link.
none of them mention the 'orb' glorifying Christ.

so... if that's the Spirit of Truth these people saw, um.. what's up with that? shouldn't every last one of them​ have testified of Jesus?
 
Its just a lame demon tricking people into believing foolery instead of the real things. notforgotten is convinced the orb he saw (and I do believe he saw one) is the Holy Spirit but I guarantee it was not. We are told to test the spirits, not get fooled by them.

I suggest you read my testimony. I was a psychic and was being groomed to be a medium. I fell for it all, hook line and sinker. All satan had to do was reel me in and I would of missed out on God and Heaven.

You can read my testimony here:http://christianchat.com/blogs/danschance/2517-testimony-ex-psychic.html
 
posthuman said:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
(John 16:13-14)

i don't believe the photographs. light is a wonderful thing and it's easy for a person not to recognize what they see when it's been captured on film or by a photoreceptive sensor.

i do believe that people have supernatural encounters. also that there are many spirits, and not all of God.
i read a lot of the accounts in that link.
none of them mention the 'orb' glorifying Christ.

so... if that's the Spirit of Truth these people saw, um.. what's up with that? shouldn't every last one of them​ have testified of Jesus?
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Just because the testimonies did not meet your expectations doesn't mean that it is not the Holy Spirit.
 
notforgotten said:
Just because the testimonies did not meet your expectations doesn't mean that it is not the Holy Spirit.
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i'm not telling you my expectations; i'm telling you what Christ said about the Spirit.

just because anyone sees or somehow encounters a spirit does not mean it is the Holy Spirit.

danschance's testimony is worth reading, but the link he gave is bad. here it is: http://christianchat.com/blogs/danschance/1363-ex-psychic-jesus-written-couple-months-after-becoming-christian.html

there are two descriptions in scripture of a visual manifestation of the Holy Spirit: like a dove at Christ's baptism, and like tongues of fire at pentecost. none of the testimonies in the link - or any of the photographs - jive with those. in both cases in scripture, its visual presence testified of Christ: at His baptism, that He was sent of God. at pentecost, that the promise He had made to the disciples - in the passage i quoted up there - was true.
the Holy Spirit glorifies the Word.

i don't believe any of the photographs. i could recreate any of them.
i do believe in spirit. a spirit sent of God glorifies God; it doesn't simply appear and leave the witness to it in confusion, and it doesn't cause anyone to glorify itself.
i believe in - and am no stranger to - malevolent spirits that do exactly that: reap confusion and draw attention to themselves.
 
damombomb said:
Notforgotten what exactly did you see yourself?
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I've actually have seen the Holy Spirit thousands of times. But what might interest you is Jesus had revealed the Holy Spirit and Spirit of Truth to me as well. I used to have evil spirits in my life as a consequence of my sin. Shortly after Jesus had found me I had asked him who these people were that had been tormenting me for the last 7 years and he had shown me through the Spirit of Truth that they were people in hell without God. Another time earlier, when I thought these spirits were merely lost souls, I asked him if he would take them up to heaven and he sent down the Holy Spirit who stopped right in front of me. Make no mistake, I know that Ezekiel's wheels and the supernatural orb are one and the same Holy Spirit - no doubt!
 
danschance said:
Its just a lame demon tricking people into believing foolery instead of the real things. notforgotten is convinced the orb he saw (and I do believe he saw one) is the Holy Spirit but I guarantee it was not. We are told to test the spirits, not get fooled by them.

I suggest you read my testimony. I was a psychic and was being groomed to be a medium. I fell for it all, hook line and sinker. All satan had to do was reel me in and I would of missed out on God and Heaven.

You can read my testimony here:http://christianchat.com/blogs/danschance/2517-testimony-ex-psychic.html
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I am glad to hear you were not fooled and found God. The old testament says to not believe in or trust mediums.
 
notforgotten said:
I've actually have seen the Holy Spirit thousands of times. But what might interest you is Jesus had revealed the Holy Spirit and Spirit of Truth to me as well. I used to have evil spirits in my life as a consequence of my sin. Shortly after Jesus had found me I had asked him who these people were that had been tormenting me for the last 7 years and he had shown me through the Spirit of Truth that they were people in hell without God. Another time earlier, when I thought these spirits were merely lost souls, I asked him if he would take them up to heaven and he sent down the Holy Spirit who stopped right in front of me. Make no mistake, I know that Ezekiel's wheels and the supernatural orb are one and the same Holy Spirit - no doubt!
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What did he do about the lost souls, or did he?
 
John 3:5-8 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again. The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

NKJV John 3:8 Scholastic Comment: Jesus used the wind as an illustration of the work of the Holy Spirit. The Greek word translated Spirit also means "wind." As the wind seemingly blows where it wills, so the Holy Spirit sovereignly works. Likewise. no one knows the origin or destination of the wind, but everyone knows it is there. The same is true of the Holy Spirit.

A person can not tell the origin or destination of orbs, very much like the wind blows.
 
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