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False correlation. A limited fictional invention that pagans lost in spiritual darkness sacrificed humans to simply does not correlate with the non-fictional one true Creator God who loves humanity to the extent he offered Himself as a sacrificial atonement.
People formed false religious systems based on an erroneous worldview and epistemology early on just as they continue to do today though the knowledge of God was present from the very beginning and remains so today.
A unique separate monotheistic account refuting subsequent pagan cosmology and creation with Christianity's core beliefs was present (e.g. God would take on flesh, die and rise again for humanity's atonement) among Abraham’s Horite people before Abraham that asserted its existence from the origin of humanity.
You need to pay more attention to history. The biblical assessment shows no interest in granting a sympathetic hearing to fictional false gods. These fabrications are fictional and worthless. Their existence, if it extends beyond the idols that are made by human hands, is demonic.
This jealousy they inspire in God for His people (which provides a stumbling block to at least one atheist here) is a godly jealously. For example, Paul's jealousy for the church was commendable. He wrote, "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him" (2 Cor. 11:2). Likewise, there is nothing wrong with a husband having appropriate jealousy over his wife (or vice versa), since she belongs to him (cf. Num. 5:14) and he to her.
The foolishness of idol worship and the horrid demands of fictional pantheons, up to and including human sacrifices) does not compare to the true God offering a relationship of love and joy in a environment of forgiveness which He Himself provided sacrificially.
Of course people being led astray by the devil from God into deception, wickedness, and ultimately perdition arouses intense emotion from a holy loving God.
People formed false religious systems based on an erroneous worldview and epistemology early on just as they continue to do today though the knowledge of God was present from the very beginning and remains so today.
A unique separate monotheistic account refuting subsequent pagan cosmology and creation with Christianity's core beliefs was present (e.g. God would take on flesh, die and rise again for humanity's atonement) among Abraham’s Horite people before Abraham that asserted its existence from the origin of humanity.
You need to pay more attention to history. The biblical assessment shows no interest in granting a sympathetic hearing to fictional false gods. These fabrications are fictional and worthless. Their existence, if it extends beyond the idols that are made by human hands, is demonic.
This jealousy they inspire in God for His people (which provides a stumbling block to at least one atheist here) is a godly jealously. For example, Paul's jealousy for the church was commendable. He wrote, "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him" (2 Cor. 11:2). Likewise, there is nothing wrong with a husband having appropriate jealousy over his wife (or vice versa), since she belongs to him (cf. Num. 5:14) and he to her.
The foolishness of idol worship and the horrid demands of fictional pantheons, up to and including human sacrifices) does not compare to the true God offering a relationship of love and joy in a environment of forgiveness which He Himself provided sacrificially.
Of course people being led astray by the devil from God into deception, wickedness, and ultimately perdition arouses intense emotion from a holy loving God.
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But then the whole speculation ricochets on what you have just stated. How do you know that wives of Noah's sons had any family left? How do you know there had children or babies?...It's could have been like Lot Cycel, God sent angels to tell Lot to leave Sodom, they even asked him to warn his relatives. Lot tried to tell his relatives who evidently ignored him.
"Then the two men said to Lot, 'Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord has sent us to destroy it.' Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were to marry his daughters, and said, 'Up, get out of this place, for the Lord will destroy the city.' But he appeared to his sons-in-law to be jesting."
We can speculate why the family of the three son's wives, but according to the bible everyone else was wicked in God's sight.
"Then the two men said to Lot, 'Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord has sent us to destroy it.' Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were to marry his daughters, and said, 'Up, get out of this place, for the Lord will destroy the city.' But he appeared to his sons-in-law to be jesting."
- Genesis 19:12-14 NASB
We can speculate why the family of the three son's wives, but according to the bible everyone else was wicked in God's sight.
S
According to the Norse mythology, One eyed odin and the rest of the residence of Asgard could merely age and die without Idunn's apples. I wonder why they made up stories about weak people who called themselves "gods" yet never took part in creating the world or even caring about the world.
Truth compared to mythology is weak.
Truth compared to mythology is weak.
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I could give you a list, but as Charles Spurgeon once said, "Discernment is not simply a matter of telling the difference between what is right and wrong; rather it is the difference between right and almost right."
God is the ultimate standard, His standard is truth. The absent of truth is no truth. No need to discern what is completely false, it simply is what it is compared to His standard.
God is the ultimate standard, His standard is truth. The absent of truth is no truth. No need to discern what is completely false, it simply is what it is compared to His standard.
J
You know, I never did read "The ScrewTape Letters," but I always kind of wanted to. I do believe demons operate under the authority of the devil and that they are given assignments at different times for different reasons. Ultimately their goal is to deceive and destroy mankind by keeping them from knowing God. Even the "prince of Persia" (a demon of some authority) was sent to try and stop Daniel's prayer from being answered (Daniel 10) so that he would not receive God's revelation (the demon failed).
I have seen the idea of gods existing based solely on whether people believe on them or not. I have seen it in video games, books, and television. It is interesting to note that this actually makes mankind god, because they have the power to "create" or overthrow a god by the power of their beliefs. I think this deception harkens back to what the devil told Eve in the garden, "you will be like God if you eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." It is just another lie to make man the center of everything rather than Christ. I also think such ideas are rooted in new age and the occult.
I do not believe The Old Testament condones abortion, but I did see a thread a while back that I did not look at that seemed to imply as such. Is there a specific verse you are thinking of?
rest well!
I have seen the idea of gods existing based solely on whether people believe on them or not. I have seen it in video games, books, and television. It is interesting to note that this actually makes mankind god, because they have the power to "create" or overthrow a god by the power of their beliefs. I think this deception harkens back to what the devil told Eve in the garden, "you will be like God if you eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." It is just another lie to make man the center of everything rather than Christ. I also think such ideas are rooted in new age and the occult.
I do not believe The Old Testament condones abortion, but I did see a thread a while back that I did not look at that seemed to imply as such. Is there a specific verse you are thinking of?
rest well!
Man is homo religiosus. Today, modern people are less religious than in the past, but still, there are reminiscents of this religiosity in the way people (including atheists) relate to time and space, for example. Fot the religious man, there is a sacred time and a profane time. Logically, for the atheist time should be neutral, but it isn't. There is a sacred (better I say special, than sacred) time even for the atheist.
Ah but we celebrate the social occasion not the day itself. Just as December 25th is not the day of the birth of Jesus, just a pagan adjustment which has become accepted, we celebrate not the coming of the new year or departing of the last, instead just because others of our social groups come together and make merry. And the only thing eternal about New years in the hangover I had following the last one!!!