Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

[Vaudeville]

No, we actually put the leaven out of our dwellings during the Days of Unleavened Bread. I am assuming you do not.

the feast days are about Jesus, not how religious you are by vacuuming out your car. and talking about it, apparently with a straight face, no less. it's about sin. leaven is also bad doctrine by the way. getting your cars detailed doesn't sanctify you. and it's bad doctrine. what kind of witness is it?

the Days of Unleavened Bread pointed the jews to the messiah's sinless life. the appointed days were rehearsals for hundreds of years pointing to his coming. the the Days of Unleavened Bread included his burial as wheat coming forth as first fruits, he being the Bread of Life. christians take part through their own baptism (burial with him), and walking in newness of life, observing and celebrating the new covenant secured, by sharing the Bread and Wine.

it's about Jesus. all of it.

 

[john832]

the feast days are about Jesus, not how religious you are by vacuuming out your car. and talking about it, apparently with a straight face, no less. it's about sin. leaven is also bad doctrine by the way. getting your cars detailed doesn't sanctify you. and it's bad doctrine. what kind of witness is it?

the Days of Unleavened Bread pointed the jews to the messiah's sinless life. the appointed days were rehearsals for hundreds of years pointing to his coming. the the Days of Unleavened Bread included his burial as wheat coming forth as first fruits, he being the Bread of Life. christians take part through their own baptism (burial with him), and walking in newness of life, observing and celebrating the new covenant secured, by sharing the Bread and Wine.

it's about Jesus. all of it.

You can call it anything you wish...

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

Now why does Paul say here as you are unleavened? Why would they need to purge out leaven since he says they are already unleavened? Because they had taken the physical leaven out of their dwellings but had not removed the spiritual leaven. They were deleavening their homes because it teaches spiritual lessons but they were not learning the lessons.

For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Therefore let us keep the Feast not with old leaven? Leaven from the past year. Neither keep the Feast with the spiritual leaven of malice and wickedness. Paul tells us to keep the Feast.

Now where does it say to keep Ishtar with chocolate bunnies, colored eggs and a sunrise suervice?

 

[john832]

it's about Jesus. all of it.

And what did Jesus say? We are to glorify the Father...

Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

We are to be like the Father...

Mat 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

We pray to the Father...

Mat 6:6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.

We are to do the will of the Father...

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Mat 12:50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother."

We need to be reconciled to the Father...

Mat 10:32 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.

The Father calls us...

Joh 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

Jesus did and said what the Father told Him to...

Joh 8:28 Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things.

Everything Jesus did was in the Father's name...

Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me.

The Father rewards...

Joh 12:26 If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.

Our goal is to come to the Father...

Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

In fact if one does a study on the word Father in the gospels, we find that Christ said it is all about the Father not Christ.

 

[KohenMatt]

the feast days are about Jesus, not how religious you are by vacuuming out your car. and talking about it, apparently with a straight face, no less. it's about sin. leaven is also bad doctrine by the way. getting your cars detailed doesn't sanctify you. and it's bad doctrine. what kind of witness is it?

the Days of Unleavened Bread pointed the jews to the messiah's sinless life. the appointed days were rehearsals for hundreds of years pointing to his coming. the the Days of Unleavened Bread included his burial as wheat coming forth as first fruits, he being the Bread of Life. christians take part through their own baptism (burial with him), and walking in newness of life, observing and celebrating the new covenant secured, by sharing the Bread and Wine.

it's about Jesus. all of it.

You're right, it is all about Jesus. Cleaning out the house and the care of yeast and bread crumbs doesn't do anything for our standing before God. It's not about being religious. The act doesn't sanctify us. It's an exercise, a remembrance, a celebration of God removing the sin from our life. By physically removing the yeast, I am reminded of the sin in me that needs to be purged by Him.

Have you ever tried celebrating it? If so, did you learn anything from it?
If not, well then, "don't knock it until you try it."

Peace,
Matt

 

[Vaudeville]

You can call it anything you wish...

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

Now why does Paul say here as you are unleavened? Why would they need to purge out leaven since he says they are already unleavened? Because they had taken the physical leaven out of their dwellings but had not removed the spiritual leaven. They were deleavening their homes because it teaches spiritual lessons but they were not learning the lessons.

the old leaven of their old sinful pagan ways. incest and fornication. purge out that incestuous fornicator.
your thesis is ridiculous.

 

[Vaudeville]

And what did Jesus say? We are to glorify the Father...

is God displeased with you if you do not vacuum your Ford in April? absurd and childish.

 

[Vaudeville]

By physically removing the yeast, I am reminded of the sin in me that needs to be purged by Him.

you need a yearly reminder of your daily sin?
it sounds like religious postering to me, but if you enjoy it, that's fine.

 

[Vaudeville]

Paul tells us to keep the Feast.

Now where does it say to keep Ishtar with chocolate bunnies, colored eggs and a sunrise suervice?

the greek says keep feast. not keep The Feast. it makes it a verb. keep feasting. continual feasting. if you don't know what feasting signifies, look it up.

i didn't mention chocolate bunnies and am not interested in that discussion. your interpretation of the days of unleavened bread and it's significance and supposed call to action in the new covenant is far more interesting.

leaven is a good subject, considering.

Luke 12:1- 12 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

cleaning up bread crumbs and car detailing in april. impressive.

 

[KohenMatt]

you need a yearly reminder of your daily sin?
it sounds like religious postering to me, but if you enjoy it, that's fine.

I need to to be reminded daily, so that my focus is always on His atonement. And you only see it as religious posturing because you likely have no idea what it's really about, nor have you even experienced it. It's only religious posturing if you do it out of obligation. I do it because God Himself blesses me beyond belief through it.

 

[Karraster]

A poem written for the Passover service by Solomon ibn Gabirol (1021-1069),from "A History of the Jews"; by Solomon Grayzel page 295
"Look up to thy Maker, O soul of mine,
Thy Creator remember whilst thou art young;
Cry morning and night to His grace divine,
And in all thy songs let His name be sung.
On earth the Lord is thy portion and cup,
And when from thy body thou goest lone,
A place for thy rest He hath builded up
And made thee a nest underneath His throne.
Wherefore morning and night I will bless my Lord,
And from all that hath breath let His praise be poured."

Ibn has the same meaning a Ben, that is Son of, it is the Aramaic version of the Hebrew and was used when The Jews were in Spain under Moslem Rule.
http://www.mayimhayim.org

 

[Kerry]

For Passover, I'm gonna have pork ribs and crab and shrimp, Might even through in a little alligator. Thank you Jesus.

 

[Karraster]

For Passover, I'm gonna have pork ribs and crab and shrimp, Might even through in a little alligator. Thank you Jesus.

It's your stomach. Personally, I don't do dog, cat, snakes or rats, and oh yeah, on the news they advise about a pig diarrhea epidemic. Not kidding, they even went on to say it would cause pork prices to rise this year, for the supply factor. Maybe it's me, and I guess it is, but price wasn't foremost in my mind when they told that. EEUU,,nasty...but I guess when ya gotta have it, ya gotta have it.

 

[KohenMatt]

For Passover, I'm gonna have pork ribs and crab and shrimp, Might even through in a little alligator. Thank you Jesus.

You are definitely free to do that. You're just going to be a lot less healthy for it.

 

[Karraster]

You are definitely free to do that. You're just going to be a lot less healthy for it.

You are so right. Scavenger animals were not meant to be food and what a pig eats turns to flesh on it's bones within 4 hours, which is why it is riddled with parasites.

I read an article recently about how depleted the shrimp population is because it's harvested so heavily by man. The article said the shrimp decline certainly did not help the pollution problem concerning the waters. And they were like, common man! Don't eat the garbage collectors of the seas!...lol Mankind is indeed hurting the earth and everything in it. Now I'm not sayin that shrimp eaters are the cause of all evil..it's just yet another example of how we have not obeyed God's instructions for caring for ourselves, or our planet.

 

[Kerry]

You are definitely free to do that. You're just going to be a lot less healthy for it.

Well my faith is in the cross and not what I eat.

Matthew 15:11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

 

[john832]

I do it at work too, although that's not as much of a task as at home.

Yep, I do at my office at work.

 

[john832]

Well my faith is in the cross and not what I eat.

Matthew 15:11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

And again a scripture pulled out of context. This passage is not addressing clean and unclean, it is addressing ceremonial washings and self-righteousness.

 

[Vaudeville]

I need to to be reminded daily, so that my focus is always on His atonement. And you only see it as religious posturing because you likely have no idea what it's really about, nor have you even experienced it. It's only religious posturing if you do it out of obligation. I do it because God Himself blesses me beyond belief through it.

Cleaning out the house and the care of yeast and bread crumbs doesn't do anything for our standing before God. It's not about being religious. The act doesn't sanctify us. It's an exercise, a remembrance, a celebration of God removing the sin from our life. By physically removing the yeast, I am reminded of the sin in me that needs to be purged by Him.

which is it? if God blesses you because you perform this exercise (for which there is no new covenant call), that means he is pleased with it. it also means he is not pleased with those who do not do it. which means it does do something for your standing before him. if he blesses you as you claim, this is advancing your sanctification.

why play both sides of this one? if you are comfortable claiming God himself blesses you (not just that you enjoy it and edify yourself by it), then go all the way and be truthful. you believe righteousness comes through the law, and makes you pleasing in God's sight.

 

[Vaudeville]

And again a scripture pulled out of context. This passage is not addressing clean and unclean, it is addressing ceremonial washings and self-righteousness.

a little like not only sweeping your house for bread crumbs (ceremonial law), your cars and office as well, and boasting about it?

 

[KohenMatt]

Well my faith is in the cross and not what I eat.

Matthew 15:11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Hey, if you want to ignore all concepts and health and nutrition, I suppose you could definitely take on that lifestyle.

Which I suppose means only eating donuts and cake is just fine, because "my faith is in the cross, not what I eat."
On the other hand, I don't thinks it means that God is going to change the fats in the donuts into something healthy on the way down your esophagus. Nor is He going to change the pork into something healthy on the way down.

Now, I endulge in a donut every now and then, but that's a little different than pork/shellfish.


p.s. As an aside, I went to the doctor yesterday and they asked me about allergies. I always put down "pork/shelfish - religious reasons". So one of the nurses asked me about, and I explained some of the passages from the Bible, which she thought was really interesting and eye-opening. Then I told her, "But if I'm dying, and there's some pork around that can save my life, I'll take the pork." She laughed and laughed.