can you answer the question or not?
are all who rely on works of the law under a curse?
Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them
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can you answer the question or not?
are all who rely on works of the law under a curse?
I felt left out.
do you rely on works of the law and teach others to do the same? according to paul, those who do are the lawless ones. you don't understand that - do you.
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chubbena
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Don't worry about it. Some here would always remember me when you, Karraster, Matt and Just-Me are mentioned
Don't worry about it. Some here would always remember me when you, Karraster, Matt and Just-Me are mentioned
Yep, we're all guilty by association.
Perhaps you can expound on these passages...
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
angry over the law? not at all. your little leaven here and there is another matter. false teacher. teaching a cursed gospel.
Relying on obedience to the law for blessings? No.
Relying on God for His blessing? Absolutely.
Does He bless me for walking in obedience to His instructions in the Law, the OT and the NT? Yep.
Does He bless me even though I'm completely undeserving of His love and blessing? Yep.
Let me see , what does it mean to rely on the works of the Law? Can you clarify this so that I may answer your question?
To whom does God give His Spirit?
Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
To whom does God give salvation?
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
To whom does God give salvation?
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
this has been addressed by another poster. it's clear you haven't eyes to see it.
i'm familiar with this herbert armstrong twist. you're either obeying the new covenant commands and keeping the words of Christ, or you're relying on the mosaic covenant. you are relying on and teaching the mosaic covenant, and are therefore under a curse. no shortage of your own teachings prove it.
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chubbena
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I urge you to spend some time getting to know the folks here by reading what they said. No one here has ever claimed we rely on works of the law.
On the other hand, I'd like to know why some, yes including you, get so offended when we prefer to celebrate the feast days in the bible but have no problem with celebrating the holidays not written, and in fact spoke against, in the bible.
Being zealous for God is good but many had misplaced that energy.
here it is again and may it be a witness against you.
3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
your claims to keeping the law means you shall live in them. along with the curse.
You used 2 different words here that mean 2 entirely different things: "obeying" and "relying".
You can "obey" both the commands of the Law AND the commands of the NT, including Jesus'.
You cannot "rely" on both for salvation. You can only "rely" on grace for salvation.