The Holy Spirit and the Supernatural Orb Explored (Scripture Examined)

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RickyZ

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Let me see you recreate the picture of an orb with the face of a spirit in it. Jesus Himself had revealed the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of truth to me. I've had a very real ten year relationship with the Holy Spirit and you, who has never even seen the Holy Spirit wants to tell me I'm wrong. In your whole life, you will not know a fraction of what I know of the Holy Spirit. I suggest you stay with the things you know, that's what I do.
Funny, but I just don't see that attitude as being Holy Spirit induced.
 

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Let me see you recreate the picture of an orb with the face of a spirit in it.
no problem:

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that was less than 5 min work. do you want me to do a more professional-looking job? wait until after dark and i'll get a tripod and do a better job layering & blending in photoshop.
 
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Ok, so you can put a face in a circle. It doesn't look like a real supernatural orb though.

Here is a picture that I know is a real supernatural orb. Let me see you fake it:

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Even if you could fake real orbs well it wouldn't make any difference because you couldn't fake the thousands, possibly millions of testimonies across the the internet of people bearing witness with their naked eyes and saying that it is a real spiritual entity. It's not even necessary to fake them, they are easy enough to get.
 
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i've said this already, but i'll re-iterate:
i can recreate any of the pictures you've posted. they are dust or water droplets & nothing more. don't be deceived. NONE of the pictures in this thread are pictures of spirits. i posted that picture i took just to demonstrate how easy it is to get that kind of image. after it gets dark tonight, i could make 100 more, if i thought it was worth doing.

i've read every testimony in the link and not one of them mentions Christ. the true Holy Spirit testifies of Christ.

i do not doubt that there is a spiritual world or that some subset of the testimonies in that link represent actual spiritual encounters. BUT if it was the Holy Spirit that they encountered, they would have been moved to glorify Jesus - and not one of them did.

therefor if any of those encounters with the supernatural are real and not deception, it was another spirit, not the Spirit of God. you need to be careful. demons are very real, and Satan himself is an angel of light.

i'm not saying this as if i have never encountered the supernatural myself, friend. i'm just telling you: 99 out of 100 'spirits' that manifest themselves to men are not what they make themselves to appear to be.
Very true as the Holy Spirit points all to Jesus for real!
 
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Very true as the Holy Spirit points all to Jesus for real!
Just how would the Holy Spirit point to Jesus? I've demonstrated a great deal of truth about the Holy Spirit (supernatural orb) through scripture. Any scripture from the NT would point to Jesus. Quite frankly, I don't think that you people know much about the Holy Spirit at all, otherwise you could see the truth in what I've said. Yet, you show that you know very little.

The Holy Spirit is not easy to understand. I've had a very real ten year relationship with the Holy Spirit. And through my experience and scripture I have a better understanding then the majority of people in this world.
 
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I don't mean to bust your bubbles, but you people do not know that much about the Holy Spirit and yet you speak as though you do. I'm sorry, but I just felt that someone ought to tell you. I wouldn't want your heads to get too big. :)
 

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Ok, so you can put a face in a circle. It doesn't look like a real supernatural orb though.

Here is a picture that I know is a real supernatural orb. Let me see you fake it:

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that's largely a matter of being in focus, but different kinds of dust are going to have slightly different kinds of refractive properties.

this is a picture from the other night too - now is this:


  1. The Holy Spirit
  2. The Opossum Spirit
  3. A bit of pollen

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see how it's in 'better' focus than the one i posted earlier? my camera can't focus on an object that small, so it's sort of random chance. but the difference here is that i was focused on the opossum, instead of at infinity when i took pictures of the sky.
 

posthuman

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Ok, so you can put a face in a circle. It doesn't look like a real supernatural orb though.

if i can take 5 minutes and fake a face in a speck of dust, anyone else can do the same.
and if i can spend 10 minutes and get 50 pictures of "supernatural orbs" i can also spend an hour with better prep and get ones with a better focus.

do you also have a camera with a flash?
you can very easily make pictures like this too.
want me to explain how to do it better, or did you get the gist from my earlier post?
 
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if i can take 5 minutes and fake a face in a speck of dust, anyone else can do the same.
and if i can spend 10 minutes and get 50 pictures of "supernatural orbs" i can also spend an hour with better prep and get ones with a better focus.

do you also have a camera with a flash?
you can very easily make pictures like this too.
want me to explain how to do it better, or did you get the gist from my earlier post?
Your second picture looks very much like the first only darker and still does not look like a supernatural orb. I'll pass on knowing the mechanics of it. I'm really not interested in faking pictures of the Holy Spirit or trying to discredit real evidence of the Holy Spirit either.
 
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Acrylic painting inspired by God through a dream.

By: Child Prodigy Akiane Kramarik entitled, "Pyramids".

...In one of my dreams I saw the image of white pyramids beaten by the ocean and surrounded by live bubbles.

Unlike most of my paintings, I had no idea what those symbols meant, but I painted them anyway.

Today the meaning still remains a riddle...

- Akiane Kramarik

Hey posthuman, how do you explain these bubbles?
 
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Akiane, a child prodigy is very famous for her artwork being inspired by God. If you ask me, the live bubbles can be none other than the Holy Spirit. If you take her viewpoint when this painting was inspired, you can see that she probably was in a bubble herself.
 
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RickyZ

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Just how would the Holy Spirit point to Jesus? I've demonstrated a great deal of truth about the Holy Spirit (supernatural orb) through scripture. Any scripture from the NT would point to Jesus. Quite frankly, I don't think that you people know much about the Holy Spirit at all, otherwise you could see the truth in what I've said. Yet, you show that you know very little.

The Holy Spirit is not easy to understand. I've had a very real ten year relationship with the Holy Spirit. And through my experience and scripture I have a better understanding then the majority of people in this world.
I don't mean to bust your bubbles, but you people do not know that much about the Holy Spirit and yet you speak as though you do. I'm sorry, but I just felt that someone ought to tell you. I wouldn't want your heads to get too big. :)
Again, your attitude is not Holy Spirit compliant. The Holy Spirit does not bother with holier-than-thou humans. Humble yourself, and re-examine what you think you know.
 
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Again, your attitude is not Holy Spirit compliant. The Holy Spirit does not bother with holier-than-thou humans. Humble yourself, and re-examine what you think you know.
I've been called a foolish deceiving devil on this thread and all I've done is claim to know more than the average person about the Holy Spirit. And now you insult me by saying that the Holy Spirit would have nothing to do with me as if you would know and can speak for the Holy Spirit. And you judge me by saying that I am a "holier-than-thou human". You do not even know me. Yet you can sit there and tell me to humble myself and re-examine what I think as if you're the righteous one.
 

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I don't need to know you. All I need to know is that your high and mighty attitude is NOT one God would approve of. And that you have a dangerous preoccupation with something that is clearly not scriptural. satan masquerades as an angel of light, looking to deceive anyone he can, including God's saints. Maybe ESPECIALLY God's saints. Sounds to me like he's greatly deceived you.

God seeks HUMBLE servants. You clearly are not. Sorry to bust your bubble.
 
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I don't need to know you. All I need to know is that your high and mighty attitude is NOT one God would approve of. And that you have a dangerous preoccupation with something that is clearly not scriptural. satan masquerades as an angel of light, looking to deceive anyone he can, including God's saints. Maybe ESPECIALLY God's saints. Sounds to me like he's greatly deceived you.

God seeks HUMBLE servants. You clearly are not. Sorry to bust your bubble.
One of the reasons we humble ourselves before God is that He knows more than we do. I can assure you that it is not I that should humble myself when speaking to you people about the Holy Spirit. And it is scriptural - Ezekiel's wheels is obviously an orb. It is funny how you speak of something as if you know and have never seen before. For instance, how do you know that Satan still looks like an angel of light? Have you seen him lately? I humble myself before God, but I needn't humble myself before you.

​- those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane.
 
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Ezekiel's Vision God (artist rendition based on scripture)
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Ezekiel 1:16 "a wheel in the middle of a wheel"

What Ezekiel describes as, "a wheel in the middle of a wheel" is obviously orbital.


Here is a real photograph of the face of a spirit in a supernatural orb:
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Ezekiel 1:21 "for the spirit of the living creatures is in the wheels"
"for the spirit of the living creature was in the orb"

What Ezekiel saw with Father God and the Cherubim (living creatures) was orbs.


Please look very closely at these orbs below and notice how they resemble an eyeball looking directly at the camera man.
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1 John 5-6 And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

What you are looking at in this photograph is the Spirit bearing witness while looking directly at the camera man.


What Ezekiel saw with Father God and the Cherubim was the Holy Spirit in orbital form.


Even a child can see that this is scriptural.
 

posthuman

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Hey posthuman, how do you explain these bubbles?

what's to explain? it's a painting. of a dream. how do you explain the pyramids?

i draw a comic strip myself, whose main character is a bubble named John. John the bubble. how do you explain that???

almost all new-age spiritualism talks about "chakras" that are bubble-like. the imagery is not new to supra-physical thinking.

how do you explain that none of the testimonies on the internet of people seeing strange lights glorify Christ?
we have a ready explanation: the spirit that they interacted with is not from God. that's based on how scripture tells us to test the spirits.
what's the counter argument to that?
 

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I've been called a foolish deceiving devil on this thread
i hope you don't think i've called you that at all.
my position is that a deceiving spirit is involved here. one that's not a human.

one day we will be the judge of angels. don't worry; the Truth will out.
 

posthuman

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to the disciples at Pentecost the Spirit appeared like fire. to John the baptist the Spirit appeared like a dove. to John the revelator the seven spirits of God appeared like oil for the lampstands. perhaps to some vision the Spirit appeared like a glowing bubble.

is every fire the Holy Spirit?
is every dove the Holy Spirit?
is every oil the Holy Spirit?
is every glowing bubble the Holy Spirit?

is any of these carnal likenesses the true​ form of Spirit?