AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?
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You tell me exactly what you meant to say. What I read says that God won't change His mind. That is what I responded to, and you haven't denied that you are saying that. I don't have a NIVUK bible and you quoted it, the way I read it. If you meant something else, you are a very poor communicator, as this whole back and forth is based on that premise. Since you haven't denied that your nivuk says that, then I am left to defend what I know to be truth. And truth clearly refutes your post and shows it to be false. So you tell me: Did I misunderstand your original post? Or does your bible say God doesn't change His mind? Which is it?
A statement like that would only come from one of two people: one that doesn't read my posts (as all my posts are biblically supported), or one that is wrong and simply lashes out because that is all they have left.
The ball is in your court. Clear the air. Did you say that God doesn't change His mind?
Is your communication simply very poor?
Either way, you have defended an untenable position and allowed this to go on far to long.
Hold your silence or apologise for the error you made, of two possibilities.
A statement like that would only come from one of two people: one that doesn't read my posts (as all my posts are biblically supported), or one that is wrong and simply lashes out because that is all they have left.
The ball is in your court. Clear the air. Did you say that God doesn't change His mind?
Is your communication simply very poor?
Either way, you have defended an untenable position and allowed this to go on far to long.
Hold your silence or apologise for the error you made, of two possibilities.
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[TD]KJV And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
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[TD]NAS The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the
earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
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[TH]Exodus 32:14[/TH]
[TD]And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
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[TD]So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.
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[TH]Judges 2:18[/TH]
[TD]And when the LORD raised them up judges, then the LORD was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the LORD because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.
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[TD]When the LORD raised up judges for them, the LORD was with the judge and delivered them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the LORD was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who oppressed and afflicted them.
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[TH]2 Samuel 24:16)[/TH]
[TD]And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
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[TD]When the angel stretched out his hand toward Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD relented from the calamity and said to the angel who destroyed the people, "It is enough! Now relax your hand!" And the angel of the LORD was by the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.
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[TH]1 Chronicles 21:15[/TH]
[TD]And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
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[TD]And God sent an angel to Jerusalem to destroy it; but as he was about to destroy it, the LORD saw and was sorry over the calamity, and said to the destroying angel, "It is enough; now relax your hand." And the angel of the LORD was standing by the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.
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[TH]Jeremiah 26:19[/TH]
[TD]Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him at all to death? did he not fear the LORD, and besought the LORD, and the LORD repented him of the evil which he had pronounced against them? Thus might we procure great evil against our souls.
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[TD]"Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and the LORD changed His mind about the misfortune which He had pronounced against them? But we are committing a great evil against ourselves."
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[TH] Jonah 3:10[/TH]
[TD]And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
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[TD]When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.
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The King James English translation uses archaic English that didn't have the same meaning 400 years ago as it does now. So, the archaic translations indicating that God "repented" really indicated that God was sorry or "changed His mind." Since God never sins, He has no need of repentance. Some skeptics have pointed out that an omniscient God should never change His mind, since He always should know what was going to happen. In reality, God never changes His mind, but warns rebellious people to give them the opportunity to change their minds before He judges them
..godandscience.org
Go to this link for exhaustive resources..
Does the Bible Say God Repents From Doing Evil?
God is merciful and compassionate, not wanting any to perish. God has bound Himself by His Law, because He has spoken it, and will not lie. Nature declares God's Law, animals and creeping things declare God's law. Man only, is free to choose.
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]KJV And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
[/TD]
[TD]NAS The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the
earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Exodus 32:14[/TH]
[TD]And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
[/TD]
[TD]So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Judges 2:18[/TH]
[TD]And when the LORD raised them up judges, then the LORD was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the LORD because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.
[/TD]
[TD]When the LORD raised up judges for them, the LORD was with the judge and delivered them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the LORD was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who oppressed and afflicted them.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]2 Samuel 24:16)[/TH]
[TD]And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
[/TD]
[TD]When the angel stretched out his hand toward Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD relented from the calamity and said to the angel who destroyed the people, "It is enough! Now relax your hand!" And the angel of the LORD was by the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]1 Chronicles 21:15[/TH]
[TD]And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
[/TD]
[TD]And God sent an angel to Jerusalem to destroy it; but as he was about to destroy it, the LORD saw and was sorry over the calamity, and said to the destroying angel, "It is enough; now relax your hand." And the angel of the LORD was standing by the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Jeremiah 26:19[/TH]
[TD]Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him at all to death? did he not fear the LORD, and besought the LORD, and the LORD repented him of the evil which he had pronounced against them? Thus might we procure great evil against our souls.
[/TD]
[TD]"Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and the LORD changed His mind about the misfortune which He had pronounced against them? But we are committing a great evil against ourselves."
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH] Jonah 3:10[/TH]
[TD]And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
[/TD]
[TD]When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The King James English translation uses archaic English that didn't have the same meaning 400 years ago as it does now. So, the archaic translations indicating that God "repented" really indicated that God was sorry or "changed His mind." Since God never sins, He has no need of repentance. Some skeptics have pointed out that an omniscient God should never change His mind, since He always should know what was going to happen. In reality, God never changes His mind, but warns rebellious people to give them the opportunity to change their minds before He judges them
..godandscience.org
Go to this link for exhaustive resources..
Does the Bible Say God Repents From Doing Evil?
God is merciful and compassionate, not wanting any to perish. God has bound Himself by His Law, because He has spoken it, and will not lie. Nature declares God's Law, animals and creeping things declare God's law. Man only, is free to choose.
You have a terrible confusion and is that the LAW does not Mix with the GRACE, If you live the Grace you keep the commandments by default.
If you live by the LAW you dead to the Spirit. and the LAW will Judge YOU, and you Negating the blood of Christ.
The principle is simple the Grace is superior to the LAW~
But you have another agenda, and is to believe christians should became JEWS, which is Unreasonable.
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Paul Did lived the law, Paul was circumcised in the flesh, so he has to live the law.... No argument!
But Paul told the Gentiles not to Circumcise and do not make the foolish decision to became a like a Jew. Paul told the Gentiles to live by Grace no by the law.
How could you read 75% of the TN written by Paul, without understanding This.
To the romans He wrote like a Jew, because he was writing to Jews living in Rome.
To the Galatians he wrote...... how a Gentile needs to live.
But if you use the letter of the romans to teach the Galatians you making a monumental mistake.
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The law of liberty is a phrase from James 1:25 and James is talking about includes the ten commandments: "If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, 'Love your neighbor as yourself,' you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said, 'Do not commit adultery,' also said 'Do not murder.' If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker" (James 2:8-11).
The word 'perfect' means whole. So James refers to the whole spectrum of God's law. This includes the Sabbath. Why single it out for exclusion? I don't hear you allowing people to violate the law against stealing or murder.
Christ did not just give two laws. "Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called the least in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19). The word perfect in 'the perfect law of liberty' means 'complete.' So as I said, he is referring to the whole spectrum of God's law.
I have a faith of liberty. And the Sabbath provides the greatest liberty. On that day, I forget all concerns about my job or any business. I have 24 hours to enjoy fellowship with God and others.
The word 'perfect' means whole. So James refers to the whole spectrum of God's law. This includes the Sabbath. Why single it out for exclusion? I don't hear you allowing people to violate the law against stealing or murder.
Christ did not just give two laws. "Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called the least in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19). The word perfect in 'the perfect law of liberty' means 'complete.' So as I said, he is referring to the whole spectrum of God's law.
I have a faith of liberty. And the Sabbath provides the greatest liberty. On that day, I forget all concerns about my job or any business. I have 24 hours to enjoy fellowship with God and others.
your a fine one to say you keep the law by default, i have witnessed you break that law umpteen times only your blind you can not see.
there is only one law i think you keep by default and that is your law not Gods.
you can not handle the truth you have been shown it over and over again you think you have all the answers not only do you defile your self you defile God with you constant debate about the law which has gone now every day since you have been here.
what you need to is go and soak your head in head in some vinegar because im seriously starting to think that is the way you are only going to wash all that hatred and rubbish you have in your head for Gods word and his truth and his children who have tried to help you.
if you had ant decency in you, you would of by now have stopped your little annoying game you have been playing since the day you came here.
i can no longer help you i have done all that i can and i am sorry to say but you are the first member i am putting on my ignore list since the whole 2 years i have been here i have never put anyone on that list you are the first.
And i have to say that now after hearing many other like you in this thread completely trashing the word of God and by arguing the toss about we are not under the law you and others will be on that list to and actually i am glad i have spent time on this discussin because its opened my eyes to people who claim to be children of God.
i sense i know you from somewhere to you remind of verry hateful person i know who victimizes people.
there is only one law i think you keep by default and that is your law not Gods.
you can not handle the truth you have been shown it over and over again you think you have all the answers not only do you defile your self you defile God with you constant debate about the law which has gone now every day since you have been here.
what you need to is go and soak your head in head in some vinegar because im seriously starting to think that is the way you are only going to wash all that hatred and rubbish you have in your head for Gods word and his truth and his children who have tried to help you.
if you had ant decency in you, you would of by now have stopped your little annoying game you have been playing since the day you came here.
i can no longer help you i have done all that i can and i am sorry to say but you are the first member i am putting on my ignore list since the whole 2 years i have been here i have never put anyone on that list you are the first.
And i have to say that now after hearing many other like you in this thread completely trashing the word of God and by arguing the toss about we are not under the law you and others will be on that list to and actually i am glad i have spent time on this discussin because its opened my eyes to people who claim to be children of God.
i sense i know you from somewhere to you remind of verry hateful person i know who victimizes people.
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Thanks for the Honor!
But the fight about the LAW vs the grace was not started my me.....once upon a time there were some pharisees... that went to teach the Law to Gentiles converted by the grace of God, by the work of another retired pharisee called Paul of tarso..... see ACTs 15, this Argument started there.
2000 Years ago, and no surprise Paul had a very hard time...on those days the Poor Paul have to abandon his mission to go back to Jerusalem to ask the other apostles this matter was so important that he could not decide by himself so the council of apostles in Jerusalem decided. not to apply the LAW to the GENTILES. full stop.......... Is that that difficult to understand.........!!!!!!!!!!
But the fight about the LAW vs the grace was not started my me.....once upon a time there were some pharisees... that went to teach the Law to Gentiles converted by the grace of God, by the work of another retired pharisee called Paul of tarso..... see ACTs 15, this Argument started there.
2000 Years ago, and no surprise Paul had a very hard time...on those days the Poor Paul have to abandon his mission to go back to Jerusalem to ask the other apostles this matter was so important that he could not decide by himself so the council of apostles in Jerusalem decided. not to apply the LAW to the GENTILES. full stop.......... Is that that difficult to understand.........!!!!!!!!!!
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