AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?

[Zinzerio]

Oh I do?

it is not a joke. it is serious. The church is being given a bad names by all the people professing law. and being seen as hypocrites because they can not keep the law themselves. or they want to act holy, yet sin all the time, yet deny it is even sin..

My wife and I have to contend with this all the time at work. and try to explain How God is not that way. It makes it hard to give the gospel when lawyers are out trying to destroy the gospel.

well just because they do that does that make it ok for you to call people lawers ?
As i believe you've called me one already ? but still you are right about the churches and the bad doctrine, and it is not a joke but the way you where sounding i dont you well enough to know if your scoffing or its just your sense of humor so sorry for that.

 

[Karraster]

The just shall live by faith. Faith in what?

Habakkuk 2:4 "Behold the proud, his soul is not upright in him; but the just shall live by his faith." (NKJ)

It presents a contrast between those who are arrogantly rebellious, and those who are humbly submissive. It reveals the striking difference between the proud and the just man. The future belongs to the righteous, while the wicked have no future. Wickedness carries with it the seeds of its own destruction (Psa 10:4; Pro 16:18).

 

[Zinzerio]

No I have nothing personal against you nor am I trying to trick you, your conscience has answered my question as you have went on the defense. Simply and truthfully answer the question or will you hold to the work of your flesh?

No i answered your question the first time.
I had my suspicions then that it was a put on the spot question but never the less i gave you the benefit of doubt and answered it.

i thought there is no way you can knock that and if your not trying to be funny with me i thought there wouldnt be another question like it. (i hoped there wasnt but there was.

But you just did it again and now your doing it again so answer my question properly and when you have i will answer you respectfully because even though you confirmed my suspicions i still gave you the benefit of the doubt .

 

[Zinzerio]

Habakkuk 2:4 "Behold the proud, his soul is not upright in him; but the just shall live by his faith." (NKJ)

It presents a contrast between those who are arrogantly rebellious, and those who are humbly submissive. It reveals the striking difference between the proud and the just man. The future belongs to the righteous, while the wicked have no future. Wickedness carries with it the seeds of its own destruction (Psa 10:4; Pro 16:18).

Interesting scripture very interesting you know though some people whos seeds of destruction can not necessarily be what that scripture says, sometime it can be the person who has been put down all there life thinking they are a failure ?

 

[ivanc0]

No i answered your question the first time.
I had my suspicions then that it was a put on the spot question but never the less i gave you the benefit of doubt and answered it.

i thought there is no way you can knock that and if your not trying to be funny with me i thought there wouldnt be another question like it. (i hoped there wasnt but there was.

But you just did it again and now your doing it again so answer my question properly and when you have i will answer you respectfully because even though you confirmed my suspicions i still gave you the benefit of the doubt .

Maybe change your chat name to "SPOTY"

 

[Karraster]

Interesting scripture very interesting you know though some people whos seeds of destruction can not necessarily be what that scripture says, sometime it can be the person who has been put down all there life thinking they are a failure ?

The late Supreme Court Justice, Louis Brandeis, said to his frustrated, impatient daughter, “My dear, if you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.” (Source unknown.)


No matter our circumstances, we have opportunity to seek the Great Creator. Sins of a father can't come between us and our Father. Many things can cause rebellion I suppose, but ultimately we have no excuse on that Last Day, though those who didn't have a chance to learn the truth will receive less stripes than the one who had knowledge.

 

[danschance]

both go hand in hand how can you have faith in the cross if you don't honour the sabbath.

I call that serving two masters.

 

[danschance]

your in the wrong room as i have already told you which is not getting through to your thick skull this a discussion about the commandments only please do not use all the other laws to cast your hate upon us please thanks.

Wow, thick skull? How not Christian of you.

Funny thing about threads, they often discuss many topics not mentioned in the OP. Also, please show me one of my posts where I display blatant hate. Honestly, I hate no one. If I did, I would loose my salvation, as Jesus said our sins will be forgiven when we forgive others. So no, I don't hate.

 

[ivanc0]

both go hand in hand how can you have faith in the cross if you don't honour the sabbath.

"THE LAW" has been fulfilled in the cross, a new covenant established, Gentiles instructed not to worry about Moses LAW.

Now you probably have not told us a detail.

You probably not a Gentile but a JEW, and you have been circumcised in the flesh.

 

[JaumeJ]

Why would anyone say someone who is a brother in Yeshua is a Jew, as though leveling an accusation? Circumcision or non-circumcision means nothing when we are in Jesus. This wreaks of Jew hatred, and this is frowned upon by God.

Now, you are absolutely correct, Jesus did fulfill the law on the cross, however He was fulfilling it from His birth to His crucifixion, every day, every moment. While He was fulfilling the law and the prophets He teaches us that none of the laws are to be ignored, that is the good laws.

It is obvious you are lording it over the original vine, and we are admonished by Yeshua not to ever do this. I pray you see your error and return to the people of Yeshua, formed by the two flocks united by the Good Shepherd, amen.

"THE LAW" has been fulfilled in the cross, a new covenant established, Gentiles instructed not to worry about Moses LAW.

Now you probably have not told us a detail.

You probably not a Gentile but a JEW, and you have been circumcised in the flesh.

 

[phil112]

................... This wreaks of Jew hatred..............

People, I hate to be the grammar police, but come on! Mis-spelling is not a big deal, but using the wrong word is!
Mean what you say, and say what you mean!

wreak: To inflict (vengeance or punishment) upon a person

reek: a strong unpleasant smell <a terrible reek coming from the garbage can>

 

[Timeline]

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I am having a hard time keeping up with all of the comments.

Seriously though, we are all in Jesus. Please keep comments like FOOLISH, LIAR, HATE, and the like out of your posts. Being rude and talking down to someone is not going to help you plead your case and more importantly whether you consider yourself under the old law or the law of grace it is not pleasing in God's eyes (in my opinion).

 

[Zinzerio]

Wow, thick skull? How not Christian of you.

Funny thing about threads, they often discuss many topics not mentioned in the OP. Also, please show me one of my posts where I display blatant hate. Honestly, I hate no one. If I did, I would loose my salvation, as Jesus said our sins will be forgiven when we forgive others. So no, I don't hate.

oh get of your high horse and go an reak havic in another thread if you dont mind and take your little demons with you there not welcome here.

 

[Zinzerio]

Maybe change your chat name to "SPOTY"

hmm if you say so but i would rather stay with zinzerio it reminds me not to be caught up in a converation that leads a person in to sin , but thanks for suggestion maybe you should add the terrible to your name ?

 

[Zinzerio]

Originally Posted by ivanc0

"THE LAW" has been fulfilled in the cross, a new covenant established, Gentiles instructed not to worry about Moses LAW.

Now you probably have not told us a detail.

You probably not a Gentile but a JEW, and you have been circumcised in the flesh.

Why would anyone say someone who is a brother in Yeshua is a Jew, as though leveling an accusation? Circumcision or non-circumcision means nothing when we are in Jesus. This wreaks of Jew hatred, and this is frowned upon by God.

Now, you are absolutely correct, Jesus did fulfill the law on the cross, however He was fulfilling it from His birth to His crucifixion, every day, every moment. While He was fulfilling the law and the prophets He teaches us that none of the laws are to be ignored, that is the good laws.

It is obvious you are lording it over the original vine, and we are admonished by Yeshua not to ever do this. I pray you see your error and return to the people of Yeshua, formed by the two flocks united by the Good Shepherd, amen.

yep i wondered that to i think hes a bit confused. but he does try to make us laugh which is not so bad compared to some of comments from here from others

 

[danschance]

oh get of your high horse and go an reak havic in another thread if you dont mind and take your little demons with you there not welcome here.

34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. John 13:34-35

 

[peacefulbeliever]

[SUP]23 [/SUP]When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets. [SUP]24 [/SUP]And some were convinced by what he said, but others disbelieved. [SUP]25 [/SUP]And disagreeing among themselves, they departed after Paul had made one statement: “The Holy Spirit was right in saying to your fathers through Isaiah the prophet:

[SUP]26 [/SUP]“‘Go to this people, and say,
“You will indeed hear but never understand,
and you will indeed see but never perceive.”
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For this people's heart has grown dull,
and with their ears they can barely hear,
and their eyes they have closed;
lest they should see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their heart
and turn, and I would heal them.’


[SUP]28 [/SUP]Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles; they will listen.”[SUP][f]

I question if evangelists today could do as Rabbi Shaul did, leading people to Messiah by using the Law of Moses and the Prophets. Indeed many have turned people away from the law and the prophets. However, each man is responsible for himself to seek God, or be led astray by the deceiver that says God changed His mind by sending Christ.[/SUP]

We "deceivers that says God has changed his mind by sending Christ" because Jesus fulfilled the law have said all along that the law leads to Christ, i.e. "convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets."

 

[JaumeJ]

I suppose that is a cardinal sin in your book. You demonstrated you understood, but, you just could not pass up the opportunity to berate your brother in Yeshua in public. I do know the difference, but as I get older I find myself using more and more homonyms in place of the word I may have in mind.

Very recently I posted on people who understand others going to the exaggerated lengths of correcting people who are not real astute in spelling or grammar. I stated, as long as what is posted is understood, leave them alone. That is unless you are willing to take them in tow (toe) and tutor them in spelling and grammar for the rest of their lives. I wonder about your choice of the word "grammar," after all it is more a typo than anything else since it is spelled correctly.

Yes, you are a tower of intelligencia. Thanks for telling me about this. It is certain the entire forum is glad to hear you. Oh, you may correct my spelling, typos, grammar and the like all you want, but you will be a very busy individual...

People, I hate to be the grammar police, but come on! Mis-spelling is not a big deal, but using the wrong word is!
Mean what you say, and say what you mean!

wreak: To inflict (vengeance or punishment) upon a person

reek: a strong unpleasant smell <a terrible reek coming from the garbage can>

 

[JaumeJ]

PS, the other day, in and email to my sister, I used the word here for hear.............for some reason, she did not make mention of my error.

RIGHT! She understood what I was saying. She did not mention it. Perhaps that stems from her love for me in Yeshua, Jesus.

I do hope you will forgive my horrible error. You did know what I was saying though.

 

[Zinzerio]

34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. John 13:34-35

you just called me a none christian for stating the truth because anyone that argues about the stuff you argue about here must have a thick skull i do love my neighbor and i love my enemy to which is obviously you