Gentile LIGHT Test #1

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Gentile LIGHT Test #1

Jesus:
John.14
[1] Do not let your hearts be troubled (about matters from GOD),
you (Apostles) believe in GOD, (the Most High #1)
believe also in me (#2;
the incarnated Mighty God of the nation of Israel only)

How many did Jesus say that we should believe in??
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The Apostles teach the same….

1Pet.1
[21] .. by Jesus (the Mighty God #2, the Son),
you (baptized and anointed converts).
believe in GOD (the Most High #1),
who raised him up from the dead and gave him glory,
so that your faith and hope might be in GOD (as well as him).

2John.1
[9] Whoever transgresses (major SINS)
and does not remain (STEADFASTLY),
in the Doctrine of Christ, (the heavenly LORD of Israel)
does not have GOD (the Highest #1 in their life).
He who abides in the Doctrine of Christ (#2; the LORD from Heaven),
has BOTH (the TWO in their life)
the Father (#1) and the Son (#2).
[10] If there comes any (Preacher) to you,
and he does not bring this Doctrine (about the TWO),
then do not allow him into your house, nor bid him Godspeed
[11] for he (the Christian) who bids him (a heretic) Godspeed (success)
is partaker (partner/ accomplice) of his evil (sinful) deeds.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If you see TWO and you CAN acknowledge them,
as two living beings, in Heaven,
then GOD is giving you light through Jesus,
who enlightens through the Holy Spirit.


Individually thank them BOTH.

(1) O GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the GOD and Father of Our LORD Jesus Christ,
I thank you …..>>

(2) LORD Jesus Christ, who sits on the right hand of GOD, I thank you……>>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

John, the chosen and anointed Apostle who was invited to Heaven,
saw TWO worshiped in Heaven.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The Worship of GOD, the Highest the Father, who never died.

Rev.4
Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord GOD Almighty, (the good Father),
who was and who is and who is to come.
[9] When the (4) beasts give:
glory (praise)
and honor (high regard)
and thanks (for all good gifts)
to the Highest who sat on the throne,
who lives forever and ever (and never dies)
[10] then the twenty four (24) elders >> fall down (on all fours) before the Highest,
who sat on the throne,
and worshiped him (happily and humbly),
who lives forever and ever.
They cast their crowns, in front of, the throne (of the Most High and good GOD) saying:
[11] O LORD (GOD), you are >> worthy << to get
glory (acknowledgment and high regard from the creation)
and honor (from the entire creation)
and power (to rule above all)
for you have created all things, (by Jesus Christ your Power and your Wisdom).
All things are and were created, (by Jesus),
to bring you (the good GOD), pleasure (happiness).

The Worship of the Son, the lamb, who is the Mighty God Of Israel.

Rev.5
[6] I beheld and lo,
in the midst of the throne (with GOD) and the four (4) beasts,
and in the midst of the (24) elders,
a Lamb, like it (he) had been >> killed, stood
having seven (7) horns and seven (7) eyes,
that are the seven (7) Spirits of GOD,
that are sent forth into the entire earth (and in the holy people).
[7] The lamb came and took the Book from the right hand of GOD, (the Highest)
who sat upon the throne.
[8] When he, the lamb (the Mighty God), had taken the book,
the four (4) beasts together with the twenty (24) elders,
every one of them having harps (musicians)
and golden vials full of odors, that are the prayers of saints,
>> fell down before (worshipped) the Lamb (the HEAD of the Church).
[9] They (28) sung a new song (of praise to Jesus) saying:
You are worthy, (have merited),
to take the Book and to open its seals,
for you were slain (for our sins)
and by your blood, you (the seed of Abraham),
have redeemed us to GOD (the Highest),
out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation
[10] and you have made us Kings and Priests, (a Royal Priesthood),
to our GOD (the Highest)
and we (Kings and Priests of the Highest GOD),
shall reign (over all people) on the earth.
[11] I (John) saw and I heard >> the voice << of many angels (saved ones)
who gathered around the throne (of GOD)
and the (4) beasts and the (24) elders:
and the number of them (the angels) was ten thousand times ten thousand,
and thousands of thousands
[12] shouting with a (united) loud voice:
The Lamb who was slain is worthy to be rewarded (from GOD)
Power >> (all power in Heaven and on the earth)
and Riches (Spiritual and material, as GOD’s inheritor)
and Wisdom (from the 7 Spirits)
and strength (from the 7 Spirits)
and honour (from GOD and man)
and glory (from GOD and man)
and blessing (happiness from GOD and man, forever)

The GRACE from GOD Our Father and Our LORD Jesus Christ to you and yours…
 
Mar 25, 2014
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Heretics reigned for generations BUT all people are not the same...
 
Mar 25, 2014
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I know only the word of Jesus and the chosen, anointed and glorified Apostles.
Go with your own.
 

oldhermit

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#5
Gentile LIGHT Test #1

Jesus:
John.14
[1] Do not let your hearts be troubled (about matters from GOD),
you (Apostles) believe in GOD, (the Most High #1)
believe also in me (#2;
the incarnated Mighty God of the nation of Israel only)

How many did Jesus say that we should believe in??
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The Apostles teach the same….

1Pet.1
[21] .. by Jesus (the Mighty God #2, the Son),
you (baptized and anointed converts).
believe in GOD (the Most High #1),
who raised him up from the dead and gave him glory,
so that your faith and hope might be in GOD (as well as him).

2John.1
[9] Whoever transgresses (major SINS)
and does not remain (STEADFASTLY),
in the Doctrine of Christ, (the heavenly LORD of Israel)
does not have GOD (the Highest #1 in their life).
He who abides in the Doctrine of Christ (#2; the LORD from Heaven),
has BOTH (the TWO in their life)
the Father (#1) and the Son (#2).
[10] If there comes any (Preacher) to you,
and he does not bring this Doctrine (about the TWO),
then do not allow him into your house, nor bid him Godspeed
[11] for he (the Christian) who bids him (a heretic) Godspeed (success)
is partaker (partner/ accomplice) of his evil (sinful) deeds.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If you see TWO and you CAN acknowledge them,
as two living beings, in Heaven,
then GOD is giving you light through Jesus,
who enlightens through the Holy Spirit.


Individually thank them BOTH.

(1) O GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the GOD and Father of Our LORD Jesus Christ,
I thank you …..>>

(2) LORD Jesus Christ, who sits on the right hand of GOD, I thank you……>>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

John, the chosen and anointed Apostle who was invited to Heaven,
saw TWO worshiped in Heaven.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The Worship of GOD, the Highest the Father, who never died.

Rev.4
Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord GOD Almighty, (the good Father),
who was and who is and who is to come.
[9] When the (4) beasts give:
glory (praise)
and honor (high regard)
and thanks (for all good gifts)
to the Highest who sat on the throne,
who lives forever and ever (and never dies)
[10] then the twenty four (24) elders >> fall down (on all fours) before the Highest,
who sat on the throne,
and worshiped him (happily and humbly),
who lives forever and ever.
They cast their crowns, in front of, the throne (of the Most High and good GOD) saying:
[11] O LORD (GOD), you are >> worthy << to get
glory (acknowledgment and high regard from the creation)
and honor (from the entire creation)
and power (to rule above all)
for you have created all things, (by Jesus Christ your Power and your Wisdom).
All things are and were created, (by Jesus),
to bring you (the good GOD), pleasure (happiness).

The Worship of the Son, the lamb, who is the Mighty God Of Israel.

Rev.5
[6] I beheld and lo,
in the midst of the throne (with GOD) and the four (4) beasts,
and in the midst of the (24) elders,
a Lamb, like it (he) had been >> killed, stood
having seven (7) horns and seven (7) eyes,
that are the seven (7) Spirits of GOD,
that are sent forth into the entire earth (and in the holy people).
[7] The lamb came and took the Book from the right hand of GOD, (the Highest)
who sat upon the throne.
[8] When he, the lamb (the Mighty God), had taken the book,
the four (4) beasts together with the twenty (24) elders,
every one of them having harps (musicians)
and golden vials full of odors, that are the prayers of saints,
>> fell down before (worshipped) the Lamb (the HEAD of the Church).
[9] They (28) sung a new song (of praise to Jesus) saying:
You are worthy, (have merited),
to take the Book and to open its seals,
for you were slain (for our sins)
and by your blood, you (the seed of Abraham),
have redeemed us to GOD (the Highest),
out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation
[10] and you have made us Kings and Priests, (a Royal Priesthood),
to our GOD (the Highest)
and we (Kings and Priests of the Highest GOD),
shall reign (over all people) on the earth.
[11] I (John) saw and I heard >> the voice << of many angels (saved ones)
who gathered around the throne (of GOD)
and the (4) beasts and the (24) elders:
and the number of them (the angels) was ten thousand times ten thousand,
and thousands of thousands
[12] shouting with a (united) loud voice:
The Lamb who was slain is worthy to be rewarded (from GOD)
Power >> (all power in Heaven and on the earth)
and Riches (Spiritual and material, as GOD’s inheritor)
and Wisdom (from the 7 Spirits)
and strength (from the 7 Spirits)
and honour (from GOD and man)
and glory (from GOD and man)
and blessing (happiness from GOD and man, forever)

The GRACE from GOD Our Father and Our LORD Jesus Christ to you and yours…
It seems you forgot Revelation 1:8 where Jesus himself claims to be the Almighty. “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
 
J

ji

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Heretics reigned for generations BUT all people are not the same...
Is it possible for you to simplify what you mean by this light test?

Does all the standards mentioned above by you apply to you too?
How is your victorious sinless life in Christ going?Explain how you had your sinless life in Jesus since the day of your Salvation?

What do you consider as major crimes and smaller ones?Does God consider it the same way?
Did Jesus give any license to anyone ever to condemn?
why do all condemnation preachers talk in indirect way?

Isn't it true that the Doctrines of Christ are hard to follow without Grace of God?

Apart from sinning and enjoying and doing things for pleasure no matter what(like worldly),how can a struggling person come to perfection in one day?
How is it possible?(you are helping many here by explaining...)

Can you share your life testimony?Is godly humility required in Christian walk since you became aware that without God its not possible to overcome the natures of flesh(at some point in your life)....

If the weakness is not sexual,then its money related,otherwise its related to food,or laziness,...or stealing..or lying...or vain talk.,etc.
For some its more than one...miserable...and no one for guidance too,except God..
(don't think that's me,i just generalized)
Everything is initiated by temptation...where is your stand?
 
Mar 25, 2014
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Sorry brother,

What is the point please.
The Almighty is the Son.
The LORD GOD Almighty is the Father.
Written in the same area...

The interpreters had their problems also.
They appeared to me and now I know..and I have the permission to share.

Keep well,
Not until they appeared to me did I know as I noe know...
 
Mar 25, 2014
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#8
Are many realizing that you were not taught from the Bible BUT some other source..
It was worse for our ancestors who could not read...
Jesus is back with the sheep... jump in through correct baptism...

Amazing... spiritual side...
 
J

ji

Guest
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i see that you also don't know what you are talking about...
Trying to make some sense on what you are saying,but not getting any...

you are asking me what is the point?
The point is i don't understand what you mean by 'gentiles test' and 'how do you qualify yourself' ?
Where is it mentioned in Holy Scripture?
 
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Hey, Newlight! I have had a time where I have disliked the "trinitarian" Catholic doctrine. I have made my search, and I don´t mind being disliked, ignored or even banned for MY BELIEFS + conviction... Just to let you know I agree with several of the things you are publishing (those are not "new" teachings) but the catholic view and approach have prevailed for CENTURIES, same way the gregorian calendar and many things the RCC made "for" humanity, long ago.

Althought I know you don´t need friends, or followers (same way I am) asking your "friendship" on CC would make me easy to read some of your posts. So I´m telling this publicly: May I add you as one of those contacts CC brings?
 
Mar 25, 2014
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Sure brother.
and may I be of more help you...
 
May 3, 2013
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Hey, Newlight! I have had a time where I have disliked the "trinitarian" Catholic doctrine. I have made my search, and I don´t mind being disliked, ignored or even banned for MY BELIEFS + conviction... Just to let you know I agree with several of the things you are publishing (those are not "new" teachings) but the catholic view and approach have prevailed for CENTURIES, same way the gregorian calendar and many things the RCC made "for" humanity, long ago.
This is one verse I have meditated on: John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.

John 4:23-25 (in Context) John 4 (Whole Chapter)

So, why the "trinitarian" doctrine?

To support the syncretism ROME liked to hold its empire?
 
Mar 25, 2014
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You know the enemy...ok...

In spirit and in truth happens when your spirit becomes alive and GOD's Spirit gives gifts..

Saying thanks is easy and truthful because you are getting from GOD....
 

oldhermit

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2012
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#14
Are many realizing that you were not taught from the Bible BUT some other source..
It was worse for our ancestors who could not read...
Jesus is back with the sheep... jump in through correct baptism...

Amazing... spiritual side...
Perhaps you would consider testing your theological perspective on the nature of God in a more intensified examination of scripture concerning the deity of Christ. If so, I will be most pleased to oblige you, or you can simply read through the thread entitled "Is Jesus God." This thread in on page 4.
 
Mar 8, 2014
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I do so wish that people would stop saying that the title of anything, is "entitled". A book, column, thread, film, song, etc, simply has a title, not an entitle. For instance, the title of the book, is this or that. This may be nit picking, but I have seen this more and more and people who use it have got to be called out on it. Aside from that, you may be way ahead of Newlight....that remains to be seen. Our ancestors could read, for they had a language and it was called Hebrew, after eber, or Heber.
You can certainly tell the youngsters from the more seasoned scholars here at this site, simply by the lack of maturity in what Christ taught. I have a couple of years on you, but we are of the same vintage. We may be on the same page. We'll see.
 
Mar 25, 2014
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Become a Sheep and know,,, Go for the manifestation..
That will hush a few...
 
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Christ was the seed of God in the flesh, after Adam, the spirit of God and the Holy Ghost, all one. Simply put, Christ was God, here on earth in a flesh body as were His children, who were begotten by the Father.
 

oldhermit

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Theology is man made...
You are caught...
Look, I am not going to play semantic games with you. If you want to serious, intelligent discussion on a professional level I will be happy to engage you. You are talking about things you clearly do not understand and your treatment of scripture is embarrassing.
 
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Look, I am not going to play semantic games with you. If you want to serious, intelligent discussion on a professional level I will be happy to engage you. You are talking about things you clearly do not understand and your treatment of scripture is embarrassing.
It is easy stay with your own..
Jesus teaches his own...