SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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K
Once again I never said I would take it back, adding to what I said again. The $400 dollars would be yours to use as you wish, you can use it wisely or you can use it for wrongful intentions.
Another thing Jesus said to disprove the He only choses certain people aspect you have is when He said He does not want anybody to perish. He would save us all if it was His choice alone, but we must accept Him. If everybody on earth stood up and decided to believe in Jesus then everybody would be saved. We know though that will not happen because some will not accept Jesus and others will fall away as scripture shows.
The scriptures say over and over from the old testament to the new testament for us to chose, accept, believe, and confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Another thing Jesus said to disprove the He only choses certain people aspect you have is when He said He does not want anybody to perish. He would save us all if it was His choice alone, but we must accept Him. If everybody on earth stood up and decided to believe in Jesus then everybody would be saved. We know though that will not happen because some will not accept Jesus and others will fall away as scripture shows.
The scriptures say over and over from the old testament to the new testament for us to chose, accept, believe, and confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Look, you are trying to tell them works are important right? Listen, I posted tons of scriptures before with the same people on James where it clearly states that works prove your faith, or in Titus how they are important, or how they decided in Matthew whether people go to hell or not, if they don't want to listen, they don't want to listen.
I even posted the quote from 1 John 3:8 that clearly defines sin as works of the devil.
Basically, I would sugggest you do as Titus 3:9-11 says. Warn them twice about the law, if they do not listen, it is on their own hands.
You can try your best, but if people do not want to listen to what the Bible says, what can you really do?
But God bless you brother because I have tried numerous times.
I even posted the quote from 1 John 3:8 that clearly defines sin as works of the devil.
Basically, I would sugggest you do as Titus 3:9-11 says. Warn them twice about the law, if they do not listen, it is on their own hands.
You can try your best, but if people do not want to listen to what the Bible says, what can you really do?
But God bless you brother because I have tried numerous times.
E
you can keep on trying
You will never convince us that we can ever earn a gift, or ever be worthy of eternal life no matter how good we are or how much work we do.
If you want to stand in front of God on your own merit. Feel free, Forgive me if even the slightest thought of doing that scares the living hell out of me.. And for that reason, I wish to trust God and his promises.
You should be scared of that also. But evidently the law has not yet worked in you where you think you can still earn something God has stated over and over you will NEVER EARN IT. But only by HIS GRACE MERCY AND FORGIVENESS can you recieve it. All we can do is pray God bring you to that point before it is too late.
You will never convince us that we can ever earn a gift, or ever be worthy of eternal life no matter how good we are or how much work we do.
If you want to stand in front of God on your own merit. Feel free, Forgive me if even the slightest thought of doing that scares the living hell out of me.. And for that reason, I wish to trust God and his promises.
You should be scared of that also. But evidently the law has not yet worked in you where you think you can still earn something God has stated over and over you will NEVER EARN IT. But only by HIS GRACE MERCY AND FORGIVENESS can you recieve it. All we can do is pray God bring you to that point before it is too late.
Matthew 7:21-23
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
K
God bless you to...I try to make a clear evident point to show even given them worldly view points to make it easier for them. They think I am trying to say God takes the gift of salvation away, or you have to earn it. Just cause you can lose it does not mean the Lord takes it away or you had to earn it first. You cause yourself to lose it by your actions.
The biggest thing that I try to reiterate to them is believing in Jesus means to believe all He said not just half. I have shown them multiple scriptures of what Jesus said, and they either write them off, do not answer, or try to say its my opinion. But it is plain as black and white, or in some bibles red and white. Since they make it easier for the reader to put what Jesus said in red letters.
The biggest thing that I try to reiterate to them is believing in Jesus means to believe all He said not just half. I have shown them multiple scriptures of what Jesus said, and they either write them off, do not answer, or try to say its my opinion. But it is plain as black and white, or in some bibles red and white. Since they make it easier for the reader to put what Jesus said in red letters.
I have one of those red letter Bibles lol.
Its okay, if you read what Stephen63 posted, if he is right, then they know they are wrong but don't want to listen :/. IF that is true, then it makes sense... however, I don't think that is true.
However, I see what you are doing. Keep up the good work brother, there are many guests who come to this sight and if they see the false teachings they are presenting, then they might get a bad perspective on the Bible or a false understanding.
God bless you man,
- David
Its okay, if you read what Stephen63 posted, if he is right, then they know they are wrong but don't want to listen :/. IF that is true, then it makes sense... however, I don't think that is true.
However, I see what you are doing. Keep up the good work brother, there are many guests who come to this sight and if they see the false teachings they are presenting, then they might get a bad perspective on the Bible or a false understanding.
God bless you man,
- David
K
Let me just say we both will be in heaven which is a good thing, but when it talked about the rewards one gets by the works they have done I would like to aim for the gold and silver instead of the hey and stubble. That is how the believers are judged.
The non-believers consisting of those who never believed, fell away rather by own reasoning or being fooled to follow the anti-Christ will stand before the judgment seat to determine and yes this is in scripture some will be burnt up immediately others like satan, anti-Christ, and false prophet will have eternal torment in the pit.
The non-believers consisting of those who never believed, fell away rather by own reasoning or being fooled to follow the anti-Christ will stand before the judgment seat to determine and yes this is in scripture some will be burnt up immediately others like satan, anti-Christ, and false prophet will have eternal torment in the pit.
How many of you were drawn in with these words? Angered? Embittered?
Matthew 12:35-37 (KJV) [SUP]35 [/SUP]A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. [SUP]36 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [SUP]37 [/SUP]For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 12:35-37 (KJV) [SUP]35 [/SUP]A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. [SUP]36 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [SUP]37 [/SUP]For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
K
Thank you and keep up the good work to. Like Paul did though we are to rebuke our brothers and sisters and show them where they are in error. It is sad when they do not listen though.
Some have quoted the term replacement theology, but I like misplacement theology because they misplace or forget half of whats in the bible. There is an old saying and Jesus even followed by it in His teaching, " Use scripture to interpret scripture. "
If you only use half of what is taught, you only have half the truth.
God bless you
Some have quoted the term replacement theology, but I like misplacement theology because they misplace or forget half of whats in the bible. There is an old saying and Jesus even followed by it in His teaching, " Use scripture to interpret scripture. "
If you only use half of what is taught, you only have half the truth.
God bless you
1) Speaks of works of righteousness. Period. Titus 3:5-7 also teaches that we are justified by His grace and not our good works.
2) Ephesians 2:8-9 speaks of any works that would cause one to boast. It clearly teaches that Salvation is a free gift of God's wonderful grace. And that we have no part in earning or meriting salvation.
3) Once salvation is given to an individual by God Almighty, that Salvation cannot be lost. God gives the believer eternal salvation.
4) In the context of Gal. 5, Paul was addressing men who were counting on their works to save them. He was teaching them that if they were circimcised (counting on their circumcision and other works to save them) then Christ would not profit them. Since they made the sacrifice and atonement of Christ of no effect to them by them counting on the works of the law to justify and save them.
5) One gets in Christ by the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and that happens at the very moment one believes on Christ for salvation. (1 Cor. 12:13, Gal. 3:26, Eph. 1:13). And the last part of Romans 8:1 does belong in the text. It is Scripture.
7) Eph. 2:8-9; Rom. 4:4-7; and Tit. 3:5 all point to Faith only for salvation.