The Antichrist rising soon

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No one will worship any flesh man. It is Satan himself "transformed" (disguised, in the greek) into an angel of light. Satan's appearance has not changed since his creation. He has never, nor will he ever be housed in a flesh body. His appearance as he is will astound everyone. He will look like the "lamb slain" and will perform miracles, although they will all be parlor tricks. He will be everything to everyone, whatever your particular religion, he will claim to be the head of it. There is your world religion, for everyone, everywhere will suddenly be on the same page, or so they think. Until the real Christ appears, and all flesh is shed and there will be those who wish mountains to fall upon them to hide them. That then, is when Christ will say to those who come to him "I never knew you". Christ is the true husband and He expects His bride to wait for him, but when they run out of oil for their lamps, or when one is taken from the field, or one is harvested out of season, it is those , who were first, the first to run to the spurious Christ, who did not wait for the true husband. The first shall be last- and the last shall be first.


Rev 13

[SUP]1[/SUP] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Brother ov77:

These verse mention 2 character.

1. Beast

2. Dragon.

In my opinion, Dragon is Satan. And beast is his agent. He must be human,

And the dragon/Satan give the power to the beast

If Dragon is Satan and the Beast is Satan, look odd. Satan give power to Satan?. He will rule the world as a President or king. In the entirely history of mankind never happen Satan as a king.
 
There is more than one character of evil during the trib as someone pointed out. The one I am talking about even though they would all be considered antichrist, is the "man of sin". He is the man who will play a part for the Devil. It could be debated if he will be the Beast or the false prophet but whicheverone he is he will be the human world leader which is usually who is being refered to as "the" antichrist. All the false worship will ofcourse go to satan in reality. I side more with the idea that the dragon (satan) sets up the Beast as his spiritual world ruler or principality and sets the false prophet (prophets are men) as his human world ruler.
 
The antichrist has already been to the temple, haven't you read Acts 21:27-30 ??
He gave a lot of false teaching.
 
The antichrist has already been to the temple, haven't you read Acts 21:27-30 ??
He gave a lot of false teaching.

[h=3]Acts 21:27-30[/h]King James Version (KJV)

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,
28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
29 (For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)
30 And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him out of the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut.

This is not talking about The Antichrist.

I believe Rev 13 talking specifically about antichrist that will have the power to all nations in the world.

That group of people mention above pollute the temple, but they not ruler the world as the antichrist mention in the rev 13.
 
They'll make Obama pope after his second term? Interesting... :rolleyes:

Let look rev 13.

This chapter informed us that there will be 2 beast.

1. in verse 1. This beast will rule over all nation, I don't know that the first beast have miraculous power like God. But he have a great authority describe in verse 2.
Seem to me this is talking about the authority to rule like government authority. Like President.

Then there is second beast. This beast describe at verse 11.

This beast like a lamb. more like religious beast. This beast have ability to perform miracle. He make fire come from Heaven like Elijah, do a lot of miracle like Jesus but He is not Jesus just Vicar of Christ or impostor of Jesus.

Seem to me this Beast is The Antichrist/ instead of Christ.

I believe, the first 42 month, is the first beast era. He prepare for the second beast. Like John the Babtis prepare for the real Savior/Jesus.
Vicar of Christ/instead of Christ must act look like Christ. Counterfeit money must look real money.

Jesus have ability to perform Miracle so does the Antichrist.

Jesus is the King of King mean He rule the whole world. His impostor must do the same thing.

So in my opinion the second beast/the Antichrist is Pope.

Verse 12 said He exercise all the power like the first beast, plus miracle.(describe at verse 11)


so the first beast is the second beast minus miracle.

Or the second beast is the first beast plus miracle.

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[SUP]1[/SUP]And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.


[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[SUP]5[/SUP] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]9[/SUP] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[SUP]10[/SUP] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[SUP]14[/SUP] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[SUP]15[/SUP] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[SUP]16[/SUP] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
 
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The following text below explains about the coming of the man of lawlessness. It says clearly before the day of the coming of the Lord there will be a great rebellion against God. And it clearly says before the Lord comes he will be revealed so those who truly bielieve in Christ will know who this man is. And those who dont know Christ will fall into in his lies. It also says below that there will be a time of peace and security, It doesn't state it directly but I feel it will be related to this man. This also relates in the bible to the book of Hosea where The Isrealites were secure and happy so they ignored what Hosea had told them. And Jesus reminded us in Matthew even further. I think it's impossible to speculate what race or what group this anti Christ will come from but for certain it's the work of Satan.


Let's look at what the Bible says,

2nd
Thessalonians

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Now, dear brothers and sisters,let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him.
2 Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us.3 Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. 4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God. 5 Don’t you remember that I told you about all this when I was with you?6 And you know what is holding him back, for he can be revealed only when his time comes.7 For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way.8 Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.9 This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. 10 He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. 11 So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. 12 Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.

There is also this verse,

1st Thessalonians 5 1-3

5 Now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear brothers and sisters,[a] we don’t really need to write you. 2 For you know quite well that the day of the Lord’s return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night. 3 When people are saying, “Everything is peaceful and secure,” then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant woman’s labor pains begin. And there will be no escape.


 
I personally believe the great falling away is not just the church but all mankind. It will be as in the days of noah. This is already happening. The Gospel hasalmost reached the whole world in one way or another. Theres not much left to happen. I believe the man of sin is alive but I dont have any guesses. I do believe we will know who he is but not by any math on the number of letters in his name found by a cracker jack decoder. He will sit in a rebuilt temple and claim to be God.
 
The following text below explains about the coming of the man of lawlessness. It says clearly before the day of the coming of the Lord there will be a great rebellion against God. And it clearly says before the Lord comes he will be revealed so those who truly bielieve in Christ will know who this man is. And those who dont know Christ will fall into in his lies. It also says below that there will be a time of peace and security, It doesn't state it directly but I feel it will be related to this man. This also relates in the bible to the book of Hosea where The Isrealites were secure and happy so they ignored what Hosea had told them. And Jesus reminded us in Matthew even further. I think it's impossible to speculate what race or what group this anti Christ will come from but for certain it's the work of Satan.


Let's look at what the Bible says,

2nd
Thessalonians

2
Now, dear brothers and sisters,let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him.
2 Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us.3 Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. 4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God. 5 Don’t you remember that I told you about all this when I was with you?6 And you know what is holding him back, for he can be revealed only when his time comes.7 For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way.8 Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.9 This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. 10 He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. 11 So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. 12 Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.

There is also this verse,

1st Thessalonians 5 1-3

5 Now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear brothers and sisters,[a] we don’t really need to write you. 2 For you know quite well that the day of the Lord’s return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night. 3 When people are saying, “Everything is peaceful and secure,” then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant woman’s labor pains begin. And there will be no escape.




Look at verse 4.

a. He will exalt himself as god

Pope is Vicar of Christ.

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    replacement of Christ. Christ is God.
    >Replecement of God.> exalt himself as God.

    4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship.

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    2 Verse 4b . He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.

    One who want to sit in the temple must occupy temple area.

    Who interested in Temple area/old Jerusalem.

    I am going to repeat what I post in the past. Dr alberto rivera, wrote a book publish by Chick publication date on 1972. Then nobody know that Vatican want Jerusalem. That why Vatican create Islam religion in purpose to occupy Jerusalem than give to Vatican.Why not took it herself, why used Islam. Dr alberto Rivera said it is cover up. Vatican doesn't want people know how bad they are.

    Why want Jerusalem:

    Because it is mention in the bible that Christ will be back to Zion hill as a judge.

    Obadiah 1:21

    remember Pope replace Christ. So he want to make look like real and want to take Zion Hill/ ex Temple area.

    Is ex Jesuit Alberto Rivera lie? Back than people think He is liar. No body know Vatican want Jerusalem back then.

    Now I Google for lest then a second, more then 16 million article talk about Vatican want Jerusalem.

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Catholics cherish holy sites as their thing more than the competetion for the holy land area. This is because true christians and jews dont worship idols. Not to say we or the jews dont care but secretly the vatican knows it must have the temple to regain its influence of world domination.
 
Oh ya I forget to mention. That after Islam took over Jerusalem, according to Dr Alberto Rivera, they rebel and did not give to Vatican instead build a mosque (Al[FONT=arial, sans-serif]'[/FONT]Aqsa Mosque)
I believe the verse that said Jesus will be back to Jerusalem in His second coming is in Obadiah 1:21

And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.
 
Oh ya I forget to mention. That after Islam took over Jerusalem, according to Dr Alberto Rivera, they rebel and did not give to Vatican instead build a mosque (Al'Aqsa Mosque)
I believe the verse that said Jesus will be back to Jerusalem in His second coming is in Obadiah 1:21

And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

When Islam took over Jerusalem they found that the temple mount was used as a rubbish dump. The caliphate who entered the city started to immediately remove the rubbish himself. The Jews were allowed back into Jerusalem and was free to pray.
 
The antichrist will be a catholic pope. He cannot be of this current atheistic culture trend in the U. S. Muslim religion would not fit either. Why? Because the antichrist will do supernatural things (not atheist) and he will require worship of the beast (not allah). Who fits? Catholics. They would accept false signs. They would worship idols. They would accept the devil as an angel of light. They already kill Christians in many countries. They are much larger than North Americans know. Completely catholic countries exist. The prince will be Roman. That's biblical though many disagree. God will be making the first strike during the trib. The beast will be a counterstrike that satan's sinners accept. Revelation is clear that sinners know about God pouring wrath so they curse Him. Yet they worship the Beast and say no one can do war with him. The antichrist will be a religious leader. Religion will be how he takes power with signs. Catholic fits and if he is not Pope before the trib, he will become Pope by using signs.

[h=3]Exodus 20:16[/h]King James Version (KJV)

16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

 
The potential is indeed there... Roger Oakland has some great information on his website about this: Articles - Roman Catholic Church And The Last Days

Here is a video showing how there is a bridge between the evangelical post-modern church, and the Vatican.
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Emerging Church: Road to Rome - Roger Oakland - YouTube

Narrow is the road to Heaven.

There will be one world religion. Lot of Protestant like Billy Graham, walk closer and closer to Vatican.

[h=3]Billy Graham and Rome - Worldview Weekend[/h]www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid...‎





BILLY GRAHAM AND ROME

by Chris Pinto

Featured National Talk Show Host on www.worldviewradio.com and featured speaker at the 2012 Branson Worldview Weekend, St. Paul, MN and Atlanta Worldview Weekends

"I've found that my beliefs are essentially the
same as those of orthodox Roman Catholics."
– Billy Graham [SUP]1[/SUP]

To understand Billy Graham, his involvement in the Ecumenical Movement, and why he would accept something like the Templeton Award, we must understand his relationship with Rome. While the principles of ecumenism can be traced back for centuries (through the Gnostics, Rosicrucians, Freemasons, and of course the Parliament of World Religions) it was Rome's Vatican II that "officially" launched the modern ecumenical movement. Vatican II opened the doors of Roman Catholicism (which the world largely views as the oldest form of Christianity) to all other religions of the world. This is why Vatican II is often referred to as "the ecumenical council." As such, as the relationship of Billy Graham developed with the Vatican and the popes, his views became increasingly ecumenical. This has confused many people because they don't make the Rome-connection. Graham, like many other Protestant Evangelicals, seems to be working to fulfill – not the Great Commission – but the mandate of Vatican II. Once this is understood, the rest of what Billy Graham has done begins to make sense.

The subject of Graham and Rome has been handled by many Christian writers, not the least of which is Ewin Wilson in his book, The Assimilation of Evangelist Billy Graham into the Roman Catholic Church. Wilson writes:

"For some unexplainable or even mysterious
reason, Billy Graham is unable to discern the
theological, moral, and spiritual soul of Roman
Catholicism. Likewise, he has failed to grasp,
or worse still, has chosen to ignore the historical
character of the entire Vatican system. Instead,
he has chosen to become attracted, impressed,
and finally to honor and follow the Holy See.
The result has been a tragic failure on his part
to understand the difference between the truth
of God's Word and the utter blackness of
Roman Catholicism …" [SUP]5[/SUP]
- See more at: Billy Graham and Rome
 
we as Christians are not afraid of any "antichrist" his destiny is failure, when God deals the final blow..Satan will die with a whimper and we can all finally live as God intended us to!

Any fear that I have is the fear over just how many Christians will be deceived. They do not know who he is and they will be caught completely off guard. They will think he is Jesus Christ Himself, but he will be Satan himself, disguised as an angel of light, who looks like the lamb slain and will be able to perform miracles in the sight of men.
No one alive has seen a supernatural being such as he and because of his appearance, people will be overcome and easily fooled. He will appear in spectacular fashion and will bring the fallen angels with him to once again give and take in marriage with the daughters of Adam, just as in Genesis chapter six. See Matt 24.
 
Rev 13

[SUP]1[/SUP] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Brother ov77:

These verse mention 2 character.

1. Beast

2. Dragon.

In my opinion, Dragon is Satan. And beast is his agent. He must be human,

And the dragon/Satan give the power to the beast

If Dragon is Satan and the Beast is Satan, look odd. Satan give power to Satan?. He will rule the world as a President or king. In the entirely history of mankind never happen Satan as a king.

The beast is the system Satan is in control of and his children here in the earth administrate it. Everything that is social, economic, and religious is controlled by the beast, which is why you cannot make war with it, for it is everywhere. It already controls governments, the media, the churches, education, labor, etc.
No one would be fooled by a mere man in the flesh. If you are thinking of the son of perdition, yes that too is Satan, for perdition means to turn to ash from within and without, which will happen to him and his loyal followers in the lake of fire.

Paul identified antichrist as being satan himself. Much of Revelation is symbolic. There were men in the past that were thought of as antichrist, charismatic leaders who gained power and then lost it....Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and now even Obama is thought of by some as an antichrist. None of them have performed miracles and no man will. When Satan appears you will see technical wonders that you have never imagined. Those who have the mark of the beast are the descendants of Cain, who had that mark placed upon them by God himself. The numeral 666 is obsolete Greek, meaning counting with stones worn smooth over a long period of time. One must remember that Anti is a Greek word meaning instead of, in place of, substitute, impostor, impersonator. Satan in his natural state, and he has not changed since his creation, is magnificent to behold, he radiates light as one would expect of an angel of light. He was the illuminated one. He is not to be taken lightly. Even there are those who know beforehand who he is, will be tested to the max and will be worn down over the course of his reign, but never to relinquish and bow down to him as we are delivered up to death, (which is another name for Satan as well).
I sure hope I am getting through to some of you. This is a big deal coming up, and I do not want my brothers and sisters in harms way.
 
Oh ya I forget to mention. That after Islam took over Jerusalem, according to Dr Alberto Rivera, they rebel and did not give to Vatican instead build a mosque (Al'Aqsa Mosque)
I believe the verse that said Jesus will be back to Jerusalem in His second coming is in Obadiah 1:21

And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

Yes, Christ will go back to that Jerusalem, the same which He said He would make of desolation. Every stone will not be set one on top of another, it will be totally destroyed. That, some may say has already happened. The wailing wall still stands, and that will topple along with everything else.