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My current church Pleasant Hill is having a serious problem with thinming the deacons can run the churh and decide to fire my daddy. What dxo you think on that? What does scripture say on this matter?

My daddy is the pastor.
 
It doesn't really matter what anyone thinks.

People will usually do whatever they have the authority to get away with.
If they have enough authority at your church, through the church bylaws, to overrule the pastor... there is a good chance that is what they'll do.

Your father has the option of either trying to navigate the problems, or leaving.

Sometimes things are neither easy or pretty.

I hope things work out alright for your family.
 
Only the Holy Spirit is to run the church. read 1Cor.12 and 14. Rom.12 Ephesians 4:16

Jesus is the Head of His ekklesia, not a man with a title nor a group of elders. Elders are to watch for error, set an example, but not 'lord it over His heritage'. All members are to minister to the whole and to each other, edifying one another to the building up of the body unto the fullness of Christ. All Spirit directed.

The clerical/laity construct is denounced by scripture.
 
There is a big problem with church structure today. The whole system is really unbiblical. For example: becoming a pastor, you usually have to pay thousands of dollars for school (I did) just to get a degree and become a pastor. Really all the teaching you need should come from your church funded by your tithe. But obviously tithe is not enough for todays church leaders; they are always looking for more than that. Teachers are part of the church structure "third teachers" and should be for everyone not just those who can pay loads of money. Pastor being the only one paid is also error. Some do that. Most church offices are not even considered anymore. As for decons they were never biblically meant to be your churches congress but most of the time they are. We fashion church after democracy more than a biblical culture.
 
The tithe of today cannot be validated by the old or new testaments. You're still unbiblical.sorry.
 
CEF said:
My current church Pleasant Hill is having a serious problem with thinming the deacons can run the churh and decide to fire my daddy. What dxo you think on that? What does scripture say on this matter?

My daddy is the pastor.
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your daddy should entrust the matter to the Lord, God is the final arbiter in matters like that.

thinming = thinking
 
Church politics are odiferous. If the deacons and the congregation are of one mind to remove the pastor then it is in the best interest of all that he goes. There are always legal concerns both in the church charter and by-laws and sometimes in state law. Does seem to me if the church doesn't want the pastor then he should go where he is wanted and will be appreciated in his service to the Lord. In every case honor and trust the Lord.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
CEF said:
My current church Pleasant Hill is having a serious problem with thinming the deacons can run the churh and decide to fire my daddy. What dxo you think on that? What does scripture say on this matter?

My daddy is the pastor.
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God has Anointed the Pastor to run the Church, Not the deacon. Eph 4:11.
1 Tim 3: 1--5. Titus 1: 5.
The Bishop Elder and Shepherd, all have the same meaning, they are all the Pastor of a local Church.

A Church that is run by deacons, isn't from God, your Pastor should be strong in the Lord and in his authority as the Pastor.
 
CEF said:
My current church Pleasant Hill is having a serious problem with thinming the deacons can run the churh and decide to fire my daddy. What dxo you think on that? What does scripture say on this matter?

My daddy is the pastor.
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There is no biblical basis for a single pastoral leadership. Not that I'm opposed to the idea as long as the pastor leads as a servant, having the attitude as a servant, and not Lord his position over others. Just for the record, my dad was a pastor and I attend a church that has a pastor. The leadership should one of plurality consisting of elders. You might be able to make a case for a head elder.

If you can find scripture that endorses single pastoral leadership, please let me know.
 
saved1975 said:
God has Anointed the Pastor to run the Church, Not the deacon. Eph 4:11.
1 Tim 3: 1--5. Titus 1: 5.
The Bishop Elder and Shepherd, all have the same meaning, they are all the Pastor of a local Church.

A Church that is run by deacons, isn't from God, your Pastor should be strong in the Lord and in his authority as the Pastor.
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I'd like to see your proof texts that support a single authority figure in the church besides Christ?
 
In my humble opinion deacons should not be allowed to do that to a pastor. They should be able to appeal to the next person in authority over the pastor and let him decide the case. Let everything be done deciently and in ORDER.
 
What in the world r u talking about 'authority over'??? This is madness!! The NT is smack full of warnings against anyone lording it over His sheep. 1Peter 5:3.

3John Diotrephes tried being the head honch and John smacked him down. Nicolaitan: nico: control over. Laitan:laity: the folks. Your Jesus hates the clerical/ laity system. This just in: Jesus wants to be head but He is not allowed as long as a man is head.
 
Johnathan...book chapter and verse please!

What part of 1Peter 5:3 don't you get?

So all a person has to do is quit his job. Have a card made up with Reverend or Pastor in front of his name. Rent a building and that gives him automatic authority over everyone else? Is that what u r saying Johnathan?
 
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