Is the Hebrew Roots Movement a cult?
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Well the cross did no work, the Messiah did.
My faith is in anything Yahweh says.
My faith is the Yahweh has offered mankind mercy through the blood of Yahshua Messiah, and I gladly accept and need that mercy, my faith is in the fact that since such a great mercy is offered I want to do the will of Yahweh as taught by Yahshua the Messiah.
It is possible to have faith in mercy bought by the blood of Messiah and believe I shouldnt steal, kill, lie, and that I should spend the appointed times with Yahweh as He commands.
My faith is in anything Yahweh says.
My faith is the Yahweh has offered mankind mercy through the blood of Yahshua Messiah, and I gladly accept and need that mercy, my faith is in the fact that since such a great mercy is offered I want to do the will of Yahweh as taught by Yahshua the Messiah.
It is possible to have faith in mercy bought by the blood of Messiah and believe I shouldnt steal, kill, lie, and that I should spend the appointed times with Yahweh as He commands.
Are you saying that all the instructions that God has given us are sinful?
Scripture is trying so hard to explain to you that when you perform something of the law, it needs faith to make it effective.
An example is given in Isaiah. People had been told to sacrifice animals, they were told that in the same way we are told to go to Christ for forgiveness of sins. It was atonement, different, but a shadow. People who worshipped Baal sacrificed also, they did it for an entirely different reason. When the sacrifice they had been told about was done in the same way and for the same reasons that idol worshippers did, without any faith or love, they were told that sacrifice was hated.
Without faith, it is truly impossible to please God, but it is impossible to please God if you won't listen to Him. Gal. and Rom. are trying their best to explain something to you, but it isn't against law, it is how to use it correctly.
Scripture is trying so hard to explain to you that when you perform something of the law, it needs faith to make it effective.
An example is given in Isaiah. People had been told to sacrifice animals, they were told that in the same way we are told to go to Christ for forgiveness of sins. It was atonement, different, but a shadow. People who worshipped Baal sacrificed also, they did it for an entirely different reason. When the sacrifice they had been told about was done in the same way and for the same reasons that idol worshippers did, without any faith or love, they were told that sacrifice was hated.
Without faith, it is truly impossible to please God, but it is impossible to please God if you won't listen to Him. Gal. and Rom. are trying their best to explain something to you, but it isn't against law, it is how to use it correctly.
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. (from Heb. 7)
You refuse to see what God has clearly communicated to you in the Scriptures.
A better hope has been introduced, by which we draw near to God. The New Covenant.
-JGIG
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Hiz, first of all you must understand that it is not about you it's about the message, lets get that straight, I hate no one. The message I present is the message of the cross. The one that saves, delivers and sets free. The law was given to sinful people, in fact it was grace, It was God's way of saying well if you want believe in me, then at least follow these rules and they couldn't follow those rules. I meant, look, They had the glory of God with them as a pillar of smoke by day and a pillar of Fire by night. Their shoes didn't wear out, they didn't get sick, food was provided every morning and they had no law. But, because if their unbelief the law was given. Obeying or better said faith in law is unbelief and allows Satan to hold you captive legally. Faith in the cross, gives the Holy Spirit the legal right to produce fruit in you and through you. To place faith in anything else is failure and that is what Satan wants.
No one at any time in any way has said anyone has "no need of Christ." How is it that you guys have law like a broken record in your minds? The HRM is about scripture, it is you guys who are about law. You should study it so you get the facts about it. You have learned it won't save, it shows a need for Christ, you have a little knowledge of it. It would be a good idea if you learned what those instructions in living that God gives are for and when to use them. It comes at the end of what you need to know, not, as you guys are doing, putting it at the beginning.
The entire chapter 7 of Hebrews is about the priesthood after the order of the Melchizedek (Malak Zadiq)
If isolated it can apper to be talking about the Law of Yahweh but when read in context it is talking about abolishing the Levitical priesthood, as the Jews still retained the "Levitical priesthood" until the destruction of the temple, and the writer of Hebrews was telling them the human priesthood was but a placeholder for the true intent, the High Priest Yahshua Messiah.
If isolated it can apper to be talking about the Law of Yahweh but when read in context it is talking about abolishing the Levitical priesthood, as the Jews still retained the "Levitical priesthood" until the destruction of the temple, and the writer of Hebrews was telling them the human priesthood was but a placeholder for the true intent, the High Priest Yahshua Messiah.
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Redtent, you and those with you are the ones putting down God and His Christ. the N.T. over rides all the O.T,. You can not quote Jesus to see His New Cov., the New Cov. in Jesus blood is not put into effect until, He, the maker died. You are a shame to Jesus and His new Cov.. Jesus gave a taste of his new cov.. only. The nation of Israel is ashamed of Jesus and will reinstate the blood sac. in the new temple to be built before Jesus returns to earth; And when Jesus returns it will be with "sudden destruction" to the nation of Israel and the world at large. There will not be any blood sacrifices in the millennial reign of Christ. The sacrifices will be bloodless, praise and thanksgiving.to Jesus. This is my humble opinion. All the feasts of the old Cov. are fulfilled, done forever. What Jesus does at his coming is to make Israel bow to Him who fulfilled all the feasts. the feast are an abomination to God now. And the ABOMINATION of DESOLATION will be used of GOD to execute just judgment upon Israel, God is always just in His judgments. Love to all, Hoffco
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Keeping feast and traditions state that the cross was not sufficient, no matter what you say. There is no need in it because they were preludes to the cross. Guess what, the cross is the only thing that God will accept anything else and your just spinning your wheels.
Name something else other than the cross that sets men free from sin?
Name something else other than the cross that sets men free from sin?
For anyone to say the Messiah words are not still binding is a flat out lie, and I want to say much worse but I will leave it there.
Mattithyah 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away."
But lets just says for a second that is true, what about this?
The FINAL Scriptural revelation given to mankind and it says 3 times the Law should be kept, and it even specifies what Law...
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
"Laws" is word #1785 entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, (in conformity) with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
"Laws" is word #1785 entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
Mattithyah 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away."
But lets just says for a second that is true, what about this?
The FINAL Scriptural revelation given to mankind and it says 3 times the Law should be kept, and it even specifies what Law...
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
"Laws" is word #1785 entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, (in conformity) with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
"Laws" is word #1785 entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
No what you present truly isn't about the cross. It is about law. "they had no law" speaking of the people wandering in the desert.
Did you actually think that God ever, ever, said to follow rules to be saved, that there was ever a time without grace? Are you teaching that? Are you teaching that what the Holy Spirit teaches is not the same as what the law teaches? You are teaching that Christ died for us, good for you, but along with that is teaching what scripture doesn't back up unless you read scripture without looking at every line as from one God, so you understand.
Why do you think I spend hours trying to report scripture? I want the message of the cross given to the world.
Did you actually think that God ever, ever, said to follow rules to be saved, that there was ever a time without grace? Are you teaching that? Are you teaching that what the Holy Spirit teaches is not the same as what the law teaches? You are teaching that Christ died for us, good for you, but along with that is teaching what scripture doesn't back up unless you read scripture without looking at every line as from one God, so you understand.
Why do you think I spend hours trying to report scripture? I want the message of the cross given to the world.
Feasts were not given in scripture to proclaim the cross not sufficient, that is NOT scripture. Feasts were given as prophecy, the last three are prophecy that hasn't happened yet. Outside of learning from them, and even using them to celebrate, they have nothing to do with the HRM. It does not set man free from sin, no man has ever used them to set themselves free. Does Easter set you free? Would you condemn Easter? If you don't condemn going to church on Easter, don't condemn people for Feasts.
Please go to scripture to find out about these things. Yes, Christ fulfilled. Another was of putting it is completed, made perfect, finished in a complete way. Before was a shadow, and reflection, now complete.
Animal sacrifices now became Christ's blood. "Passed away" is not the correct way of explaining that.
The Levitical Priesthood was a precursor to Christ, and shows what Christ is to us.
When people say that any scripture is unimportant, all passed away, not for us at all, it is not right. We are told that all scripture is given for us.
Animal sacrifices now became Christ's blood. "Passed away" is not the correct way of explaining that.
The Levitical Priesthood was a precursor to Christ, and shows what Christ is to us.
When people say that any scripture is unimportant, all passed away, not for us at all, it is not right. We are told that all scripture is given for us.