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I don't think we can take always take things for granted when people say things in regard to religion. The word "Christian" has implications that are not always met by those who call themselves Christian. The part of an organization's statement of faith that says "We believe the Bible is without error." has implications that are not always met by all groups either.
Protesting is not always about pumping ones own flesh. Otherwise Martin Luther King (and Martin Luther) were very bad men, along with a great number of other men. Furthermore, there is nothing in the Bible against negative reinforcement. Actually, it often encourages it.
"Cry loudly, do not hold back; Raise your voice like a trumpet, And declare to My people their transgression And to the house of Jacob their sins." Isaiah 58:1
Protesting is not always about pumping ones own flesh. Otherwise Martin Luther King (and Martin Luther) were very bad men, along with a great number of other men. Furthermore, there is nothing in the Bible against negative reinforcement. Actually, it often encourages it.
"Cry loudly, do not hold back; Raise your voice like a trumpet, And declare to My people their transgression And to the house of Jacob their sins." Isaiah 58:1
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I believe we do have a new model to follow rather than the law. However, this instance of preaching against sin is not a case of OT vs NT. One of the first things that Jesus is recorded saying in His ministry is "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near" (Matthew 3:2) . The apostles were no different in their ministry. In fact, the Gospel message is said to be so heart-cutting to people living in willful sin that it is guaranteed "Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted" (2Timothy 3:12).
An interesting instance in the NT is the part where John the Baptist gets killed for telling one of the most powerful leaders around him that he was living in sin for being with his brother's wife. It's not a matter of kicking a sick person when they are down. It's a matter of having the courage to tell the sick person the truth about their illness (whether they would like to deal with it or not) and then telling them the cure for it. If you say "I've got the cure for you!" to a random person on the street, they'll likely just say "okay..." and keep walking, thinking there is nothing wrong in their life. You've got to tell people about their illness before you start explaining the cure.
An interesting instance in the NT is the part where John the Baptist gets killed for telling one of the most powerful leaders around him that he was living in sin for being with his brother's wife. It's not a matter of kicking a sick person when they are down. It's a matter of having the courage to tell the sick person the truth about their illness (whether they would like to deal with it or not) and then telling them the cure for it. If you say "I've got the cure for you!" to a random person on the street, they'll likely just say "okay..." and keep walking, thinking there is nothing wrong in their life. You've got to tell people about their illness before you start explaining the cure.
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The sick apart from Christ DO NOT know they are sick. If this were true the religious leaders would have humbled themselves to Jesus' teaching. Christ is the surgeon and he cut out the cancer. The Holy Spirit is the dietician that tells you what to eat to keep it in remission. The law reveals the flaws.
God loves sinners. He loves the drug addicts, the prostitutes, the fornicators and the bigots.
Christ receives all who come to Him. He came to them and shed His blood that they might have forgiveness of sin. They come filthy and leave spotless.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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The point is that what brings people to Jesus is not a bunch of words strung together with fancy scripture interpretation, nor is it condemning someone who is not part of His kingdom. It is living life as tho Jesus is living thru you and meeting people right where they are.....right wrong or indifferent. HE DOES THAT FOR ALL OF US....does he not? I do understand that professing Christians are to be treated differently but I would submit to you that many that attend church do not understand the gospel in large part because those who say they are followers of Christ do not display it in how they live their lives or in their speech or attitudes. Go ahead, be critical of people here if you must, but don't do it to someone's face who might only just need to be heard. That IMHO would be tragic.
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I hope I can say this in a way you will understand. I am not great with words are Punciation and spelling. But, here go's.
Just the first part of this post, I don't agree with. Why, because by the Follishness of Preaching Jesus said some are saved. Also, the Eunuch was reading the OT and Phillip asked him understand what your reading? He siad hoiw can I excpt some man should guide me, and Phillip taught him. Probably many other places we are told that word are key in salvation. Oh, Felix said thou persaudest me to also be a Christian, he didn't do it, but, Paul was sure preaching to him. Teaching, Preaching are close related words. Also remembed? thou have the words of life. I will make bold the part I don't agree with.
On the word condemning I don't mean to pass sentense. People can change. I am sure I could be more dipomatic, Your talking to and 66 year old country Hillybilly, with 5 years of HS, and education equal to a second grader. That is probably alone reason enough not to follow me. However if what I say/teach is from the bible and you see it, don't let my education get in your way. Of doing what God teaches.
Like I said I been doing this for 16 years and yet to have anyone say that was great Pete I never saw that before. The power is in the word so I just keep putting it out there.
Just the first part of this post, I don't agree with. Why, because by the Follishness of Preaching Jesus said some are saved. Also, the Eunuch was reading the OT and Phillip asked him understand what your reading? He siad hoiw can I excpt some man should guide me, and Phillip taught him. Probably many other places we are told that word are key in salvation. Oh, Felix said thou persaudest me to also be a Christian, he didn't do it, but, Paul was sure preaching to him. Teaching, Preaching are close related words. Also remembed? thou have the words of life. I will make bold the part I don't agree with.
On the word condemning I don't mean to pass sentense. People can change. I am sure I could be more dipomatic, Your talking to and 66 year old country Hillybilly, with 5 years of HS, and education equal to a second grader. That is probably alone reason enough not to follow me. However if what I say/teach is from the bible and you see it, don't let my education get in your way. Of doing what God teaches.
Like I said I been doing this for 16 years and yet to have anyone say that was great Pete I never saw that before. The power is in the word so I just keep putting it out there.