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The ones she said she presented in the OP. I'm against false information, and the anti-abortion arguists need to get their facts straight.
 
MahogonySnail said:
Well at 1 week it's technically still an embryo. How can you call the scientific community silly? You need to learn respect for the scientists.
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i open my mouth and say scientific community... you are silly... its easy, why dont you give it a go
 
You know coming to the U.S. I get to see first hand the massive debate that has occurred in my nation regarding abortion. For me, I feel that abortion is wrong, its murder. As a man, I have the responsibility to help any woman that I impregnate, and help the child that is a result of my actions. This being said. These are my personnal vews. Realistically, taking my personnal views away though, Abortion is a much needed service in our society. Most woman who seek abortion are poor, unwed mothers. If abortion was made illegal in my nation these poor, unwed mothers would innundate our social service program even more with children that would require services from the government, which is paid for by you, the tax payer. Additionally, if abortion was made illegal, it doesn't mean that these woman would stop having them, any more then you can stop crack and herion from being on the streets. Instead of these woman having these services in healthy, sterile environments, they would have them in back alley situations, that could expose them to dangerous situations. While I myself am adamantly anti-abortion, if made illegal, there would be 100,000's of more children in the welfare network, as well as increased taxes, further social deprediation, and lastly, alot more single parent homes. Instead of having abortion being made illegal, we should educate. Educate on what the fetus looks like every week and month. Educate on the use of birth control and condoms. Educate on the need to stay abstinant if possible, and if not, then to protect yourself from diseases, and having a baby. Lastly, I think EVERY girl & boy should have to have one of those Babies that you have to wear that cries, and pee's and poops, and does all kinds of stuff. They should be mandated for every schools 8th, 9th, and 10th grade class. Let these kids have a one week reminder of what unprotected sex can result in. Just my opinion though. Outlawing won't save anybody, it'll just cause the price to go up, and sterility of it to go down. Education is key.

Cheers,

Camain
 
imoss, I'd like to comment about what you said. Bless your heart. You are a brave person. You are forgiven, and I applaud you for being so honest. Your humility is encouraging to me. I love how God has healed you and is being demonstrated in your words. Blessings!
 
Imoss, I love what Dee said. There is nothing to big for God to forgive. Let your heart be a peace. GBU
 
Kathleen said:
So I was debating this in school a couple of weeks ago. My friend and I went infront og the class and spoke against it.
During our debating session I handed out photos of dead babies 'fetuses'. Nd talked about how there are so many ways do kill a helpless child - for free in Britian.

To me abortian is murder - no matter what.
The opposion at the debate said well what about if the women/girl is raped and the baby is a result of the rape - well surely ur against murder if ur against rape?

Anywayz...whats your opinions?
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I believe it depends on the situation. Also, the definition of murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human by another. The definition of killing is causing death to another human being. A person isn't considered to have died until after they are born. Kind of like when someone has a miscarriage. The parents might have considered them to have died but by law they did not die. I hope that made sense.
 
tryingtofindhim said:
I believe it depends on the situation. Also, the definition of murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human by another. The definition of killing is causing death to another human being. A person isn't considered to have died until after they are born. Kind of like when someone has a miscarriage. The parents might have considered them to have died but by law they did not die. I hope that made sense.
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Our worldly laws mean squat to God, our ways are not His ways.
 
As long as something is growing it is alive. The baby is alive before it takes the first breath, if not then it would not grow.
 
Exodus 21:22-23
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

Job 3:3
Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived

Psalm 139:13-16
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Isaiah 48:8
Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.

The Bible CLEARLY says that life starts in the womb. You can't question that.
 
Well, it is my firm opinion that abortion is not murder, and I guess I'll find out in heaven if I was wrong or not.
 
Cako53 said:
so was that a serious comment? Or a comment to provoke argument?
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I was being serious. I'm not trying to start an argument; I'm just stating my opinion which I believe I have a right to do.
 
tryingtofindhim said:
I was being serious. I'm not trying to start an argument; I'm just stating my opinion which I believe I have a right to do.
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Oh by all means you absoloutly do, but with that argument be ready for A LOT of argument, or comments, lol.
 
Cako53 said:
Oh by all means you absoloutly do, but with that argument be ready for A LOT of argument, or comments, lol.
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I didn't think that was an argument. I can take it; I'm used to it by my parents everyday.
 
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