for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

[Apostol2013]

43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. note

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

 

[Apostol2013]

Oftenly i observe and see the various types of people proffesing to be christian but oftenly their mouth speaks repeatedly evil especialy during a moment of anger , for the Lord said anger but sinneth not , so we must allways be mindfull of what we speak but it all starts in our Mind in order for the outside to be clean the inside must be washed out first then , under pressure is the test under fire do we dismay or stand our ground . Therefore we must be clean in every thought every word even action as we are dead to sin and alive to Christ this is our true nature

 

[pastac]

What is of paramount importance is the disunity this causes. One must always seek the face of God before speaking on his behalf. That just makes life so much easier and makes it possible to receive the word God is releasing. But when we ignorantly albeit well-meaning speak prematurely it stalls the word of God from operating in its fullness. If ignorance is in your heart it will be revealed by your lips.

 

[Apostol2013]

I remember upon being saved how wretched my mind even was , as I could not possibly even think a clean thought this was the first thing I asked the Lord to clean up and He did . But the real transformation occurred with aid from the Holy spirit and eventually I was visited by my Lord to be liberated from all my bondage a life of prayer is important especially the holy spirit prayer which searched my heart pruned me real good (john 15
5

 

[pastac]

Chastisements and correction many refuse to accept due to the rebellious spirit that guards their heart. The lips of a man are the most dangerous weapon in the arsenal of weapons the believer has either for good or bad.
Some have the ability to correct but not the authority from God but try to do things of themselves without his release.

Talking a lot is dangerous when your lips are not centered on Godly edification or how God wants the situation to be handled. We think to much as believers always trying to help God. Some things are not for us to know until God gives us that portion. Renewing our thoughts and refocusing on Gods way is the only way. Now there is a way that seems right to man!! But we know how that ends!!

 

[Apostol2013]

Chastisements and correction many refuse to accept due to the rebellious spirit that guards their heart. The lips of a man are the most dangerous weapon in the arsenal of weapons the believer has either for good or bad.
Some have the ability to correct but not the authority from God but try to do things of themselves without his release.

Talking a lot is dangerous when your lips are not centered on Godly edification or how God wants the situation to be handled. We think to much as believers always trying to help God. Some things are not for us to know until God gives us that portion. Renewing our thoughts and refocusing on Gods way is the only way. Now there is a way that seems right to man!! But we know how that ends!!

Yes many do refuse chastisement but its sad they preffer the darkness rather than the light but it is predetermined it says it in john but choice is what is given to us our lord did say let your conversations be ye or nay and also instructed that when we do something simply say we were just doing our duty that in that manner the Lord is glorified in all

 

[Apostol2013]

What is of paramount importance is the disunity this causes. One must always seek the face of God before speaking on his behalf. That just makes life so much easier and makes it possible to receive the word God is releasing. But when we ignorantly albeit well-meaning speak prematurely it stalls the word of God from operating in its fullness. If ignorance is in your heart it will be revealed by your lips.

I remember in my studies i was at the time researching to what to teach then in prayer the Lord said no do not teach that only teach what i instructed you for this time , then He said those are your orders do them .but its true we must seek allways His instruction first .

 

[saved1975]

43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. note

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Prov 18: 21 says the tongue is responsible for either life or death,
And Jesus said in Mk 11: 23, we shall have whatever we say.

So we need to speak life to ourselves, Not death.

We can also add, Blessings and curses, Deuteronomy 30: 14-15 & v19.

 

[Osiyo]

amen @pastac

 

[Apostol2013]

Prov 18: 21 says the tongue is responsible for either life or death,
And Jesus said in Mk 11: 23, we shall have whatever we say.

So we need to speak life to ourselves, Not death.

We can also add, Blessings and curses, Deuteronomy 30: 14-15 & v19.

But also they must be acceptant of truth in all submission , taking o. That glorified nature wich God intended , many not willing to accept jesus Christ in their hearts , believing God's truth wich is Jesus Christ we must then be fully discerned in the spirit that we may see and not be groping around like a blind man and worse a blind man with no foundation that is why we speak proclaiming God's truth that hearing that they may understand and shown that they may be able to perceive in all awareness , and the Lord said i will show you a man wich does the things i say He is like unto a man with a solid foundation wich cannot be moved . This is speaking blessings pronouncing God's truth

 

[Apostol2013]

The Word of God a double edged sword to be handled correctly in all propper perception loving righteousness and abolishing wickedness in the likeness of Christ the truth the way the light there is no way to the Father except through Him , and repeat through Him in all likeness of Christ . Being a living sacrifice , living the love of christ 1john3:16 this transformed state being our duty , the showing of Our Gratefullness to God not because of any reward but because of who He is and what He did for us romans 12:1

 

[john832]

What is of paramount importance is the disunity this causes. One must always seek the face of God before speaking on his behalf. That just makes life so much easier and makes it possible to receive the word God is releasing. But when we ignorantly albeit well-meaning speak prematurely it stalls the word of God from operating in its fullness. If ignorance is in your heart it will be revealed by your lips.

Unity over doctrinal purity?

Not in my lifetime.

 

[Apostol2013]

Unity over doctrinal purity?

Not in my lifetime.

What i believe Pastac is saying is the mouth speaks whats in their heart if one does not bother to deeply learn God's ways , i once said the ability to speak or obtain knowledge is not a sign of true inteligence but to utilize the knowledge and seek its deep mesning and put it to use in our lives makes way for a show a trully excersized knowledge

 

[saved1975]

But also they must be acceptant of truth in all submission , taking o. That glorified nature wich God intended , many not willing to accept jesus Christ in their hearts , believing God's truth wich is Jesus Christ we must then be fully discerned in the spirit that we may see and not be groping around like a blind man and worse a blind man with no foundation that is why we speak proclaiming God's truth that hearing that they may understand and shown that they may be able to perceive in all awareness , and the Lord said i will show you a man wich does the things i say He is like unto a man with a solid foundation wich cannot be moved . This is speaking blessings pronouncing God's truth

Christians have to believe and accept the truth in order to receive the blessings.
The have to be living a life that is pleasing to God.

In Lk 6: 46--48. Jesus gave us three keys to be victorious in the storms of life.
[1]Make Jesus your Lord, V46.
[2]Walk with Jesus Continually, [That's what "Cometh to Me", Means] v47.
[3]Know and be doers of the word, V47.

Please note, The same storm came to both houses, But the one who doing the above three keys, will have the victory.

The death and curses side of Ps 18: 21 and Mk 11: 23 will work for everyone who continues to speak negatively.

So Christians need to find out what they have in Christ, And confess them.

 

[Apostol2013]

Christians have to believe and accept the truth in order to receive the blessings.
The have to be living a life that is pleasing to God.

In Lk 6: 46--48. Jesus gave us three keys to be victorious in the storms of life.
[1]Make Jesus your Lord, V46.
[2]Walk with Jesus Continually, [That's what "Cometh to Me", Means] v47.
[3]Know and be doers of the word, V47.

Please note, The same storm came to both houses, But the one who doing the above three keys, will have the victory.

The death and curses side of Ps 18: 21 and Mk 11: 23 will work for everyone who continues to speak negatively.

So Christians need to find out what they have in Christ, And confess them.

Jesus once said a bad tree cannot produce good fruit and a good tree cannot produce bad fruit , do men carry thorns and thistles , and every tree that does not produce good fruit is then hewn down and cast into the everlasting fire , now I gave an example of solid teaching now , once I was a child I cut myself to see what effect it had on me I was unaware of the dangers , for if I was I would not have cut myself , the solution to see spiritually is yes make Jesus your lord , being aceptant in full submission to the Word as a reality not according to our own precepts ,we must do this at all times and keep deep seeking His word to learn the deep meaning of it , and three we cannot do nothing without His holy spirit for he is necessary to be in us for it is impossible for man but with God everything is possible ...

 

[saved1975]

Jesus once said a bad tree cannot produce good fruit and a good tree cannot produce bad fruit , do men carry thorns and thistles , and every tree that does not produce good fruit is then hewn down and cast into the everlasting fire , now I gave an example of solid teaching now , once I was a child I cut myself to see what effect it had on me I was unaware of the dangers , for if I was I would not have cut myself , the solution to see spiritually is yes make Jesus your lord , being aceptant in full submission to the Word as a reality not according to our own precepts ,we must do this at all times and keep deep seeking His word to learn the deep meaning of it , and three we cannot do nothing without His holy spirit for he is necessary to be in us for it is impossible for man but with God everything is possible ...

Born again Christians do have the Holy Spirit in them.
Jesus said all things are possible to those that believe.

We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us.

 

[crossnote]

Unity over doctrinal purity?

Not in my lifetime.

Pastac never mentioned yielding on doctrine. His point was rash speaking in and of itself can cause disunity.

 

[Atwood]

Apostol, great topic:

Let's add in James 3:

9 Therewith bless we the Lord and Father; and therewith curse we men, who are made after the likeness of God: 10 out of the same mouth cometh forth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. 11 Doth the fountain send forth from the same opening sweet water and bitter? 12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, yield olives, or a vine figs? neither can salt water yield sweet.

 

[Atwood]

Pastac never mentioned yielding on doctrine. His point was rash speaking in and of itself can cause disunity.

Oh yes, Ye Olde Rash Speaking.

Let everyman be slow to speak!
Pray first, speak second, like at the start of Nehemiah, when the king asked Nehemiah a question.
And now, how can I remember to bridle the tongue until I have prayed first?
I should say the same thing about posting here:
1) pray,
2) compose,
3) pray again,
4) post.

 

[crossnote]

Oh yes, Ye Olde Rash Speaking.

Let everyman be slow to speak!
Pray first, speak second, like at the start of Nehemiah, when the king asked Nehemiah a question.
And now, how can I remember to bridle the tongue until I have prayed first?
I should say the same thing about posting here:
1) pray,
2) compose,s
3) pray again,
4) post.

hehe, nearly impossible for us impossible types