The Commandments of Jesus Christ
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Your misunderstanding of the epistles so discredits what we are to learn of God in scripture gives me such grief for the people who read what you say about our Lord. OT is scripture breathed by God, every word to be listened to OT and NT. Moses, Christ, the HS and the Father speak truth, all of them.
The commands of Jesus Christ cannot be separated from the commands of scripture that we call old.
Christ was there the first day of creation, the commandments are part of Christ and were there from the first day of creation.
Christ and the Father are One, the life and resurrection of Christ was part of our world from the very beginning.God is eternal.
We are given the first five books of the bible to explain the principles of God, how our world operates, and how we can live in it with the most of what the Hebrew language calls shalom.It is everything abundant and good.When we study this, and we know how Christ completed each thing, we can understand the functions of Christ better.
We are given many books of history that shows us the results of our actions, along with prophets that interprets God’s response to our actions.The prophets help us know the principles of God best.
Finally, there are a few chapters that tell us how we are to respond to the changes Christ made.This is called the NT in our English language, but it speaks so much of what the bulk of the bible tells us, called the OT, that what we are given as the last chapter in our instructions amounts to only 10% of the bible.
We are to base our worship around the temple and the high priest, today Christ is the high priest and we are the temple.We are very blessed.We must submit exactly as we are told in order to reap the most rewards.We are even blessed with grace for the reward of eternal life.
Christ was there the first day of creation, the commandments are part of Christ and were there from the first day of creation.
Christ and the Father are One, the life and resurrection of Christ was part of our world from the very beginning.God is eternal.
We are given the first five books of the bible to explain the principles of God, how our world operates, and how we can live in it with the most of what the Hebrew language calls shalom.It is everything abundant and good.When we study this, and we know how Christ completed each thing, we can understand the functions of Christ better.
We are given many books of history that shows us the results of our actions, along with prophets that interprets God’s response to our actions.The prophets help us know the principles of God best.
Finally, there are a few chapters that tell us how we are to respond to the changes Christ made.This is called the NT in our English language, but it speaks so much of what the bulk of the bible tells us, called the OT, that what we are given as the last chapter in our instructions amounts to only 10% of the bible.
We are to base our worship around the temple and the high priest, today Christ is the high priest and we are the temple.We are very blessed.We must submit exactly as we are told in order to reap the most rewards.We are even blessed with grace for the reward of eternal life.
Originally Posted by StephenLevi
The purpose and point of this thread
is to discuss and to learn and to teach
the commandments of Jesus Christ
to those who want to read and participate.
I will go through the new testament and
take them one by one. .
ok, does that mean we can't post various "commandments" such as I have posted? Are you the designated "teacher?"
Just curious.........so I know how to proceed.......
is to discuss and to learn and to teach
the commandments of Jesus Christ
to those who want to read and participate.
I will go through the new testament and
take them one by one. .
ok, does that mean we can't post various "commandments" such as I have posted? Are you the designated "teacher?"
Just curious.........so I know how to proceed.......
Originally Posted by StephenLevi
The purpose and point of this thread
is to discuss and to learn and to teach
the commandments of Jesus Christ
to those who want to read and participate.
I will go through the new testament and
take them one by one. .
ok, does that mean we can't post various "commandments" such as I have posted? Are you the designated "teacher?"
Just curious.........so I know how to proceed.......
is to discuss and to learn and to teach
the commandments of Jesus Christ
to those who want to read and participate.
I will go through the new testament and
take them one by one. .
ok, does that mean we can't post various "commandments" such as I have posted? Are you the designated "teacher?"
Just curious.........so I know how to proceed.......
John 15:12, "This is my commandment, That you love one another, as I have loved you." Notice in this passage Jesus states commandment in the singular, revealing that this is a foundational commandment on which all other commandments are to be built- no other commandment can be enacted outside of this one. The word love is Agape and it signifies benevolence or charitable acts- it is love in action, but what action? John 15:13, "Greater love (agape) has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Therefore, the commandment is to be selfless, or to die to self, and base all actions on this foundation.
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The commandments of Jesus christ are good topic.
He spoke them from Mt Sinai.
He is the word of God
Very hot topic, people have been trained to respond way to hard about the commandments saying THEY DONT SAVE US
no one believes the commandments save us
this is the straw man argument people are taught they are lied to and told that people preach that the commandments save us
this is not true and no one teaches that
Jesus saves us
JEsus Justifies us (forgives by his blood alone)
and Jesus sanctifies us (by his blood alone_)
The free and easy gospel leaves out sanctification and obedience
and to cover it up they accuse everyone of beliving the commandmenst save us
not truth
the turht is Jesus saves us
He justifies us
he sanctifies us all by his blood
he wants us to be obedient children
surely you being a parent can understand theis cant you?
There are rules that christians follow
they are saved and forgiven and they still follow the rules
is that not easy to understand
?
will the children of a family get together and say
"Dads rules are crazy, no one can keep them!
he should trust us!
He thinks we are bad!
We are inherently good inside and would never hurt a fly
why any rules at all?
If he loved us there would be no rules!
Well, that child who even mentioned it, is the devil
that is what he told heaven
and he hates the commandments for they are a pure and righteous character and they expose his covetousness trying to be head of the universe above God himself
anyway long stor
The commanments are the character of God and of christians.
the law is good
we look at it and see where we fall short
it coes not save us
it shows the egg on our faces, we who claim to be christians yet covet lie cheat and steal
it tells us
you are NOT a christian...
you are not even close to where you should be...
So then we go tp JESUS and say
JEsus we have sinned and love to sin
save us
and he says
yes you have sinned im glad you came to me 490 times today...
I will make you clean
and we say
Fill us with your spirit
and on the Sabbath he puts in the spirit and reconnects your neurons, creates new thoughts and new desires and the next week is better
each week is better
this is sanctification
growing in christian grtaces
to say sanctification is one time is toatly silly
no one suddenly speaks acts and talks perfectly with the law of God immediately
sanctification is not immediate
it is LEARNED by GRACE and DIVINE inspiration meditation reading the word and desiring to change and to keep aiming the right way
Justification is immediate (forgiveness) and you are with christ
and sanctification is continuous
if you die, you are with christ
as long as you abide in christ you cannot be lost
some christians are little children some are old patriarchs and wise all are safe in christ as long as they continue in the faith they are safe
why would the devil try and tempt you if you were once saved always saved?
makes no sense.
he is trying to get you to leave the christian walk and be lost in the world, for those who are lost in the world are hardened and harder to return.
but stay with christ and sanctify weekly
sanctification is totally impossible without the
Sabbath
so that is why it is never taught
they jsut say you are going to heaven by confession
not so
the devils confess christ is lord they arent going because they Refuse to sandctify themselves!
(read follow and obey the Bile)
all who sanctify and stay on the path are safe
devils will not obey
devils do not obey
demons dont obey
and fake christians teach you dont need to obey
all who teach obedience is not NECESSARY to be saved will be lost.
obedience does not save you
but DISOBEDIENCE SUREL
Y and certainly will not save you either.
Jesus saves
and you sanctify
the wisest man in the world said this.
it is our DUTY to sanctify
the christian DUTY that means something to DO
not so save
but to continue in the faith
or you WILL fall
teaching you wont fall doesnt make it so
it is false security and all those who believe once saved always saved I guarantee you will not sanctify themselves, for that is hard work
and they will be lost.
for
NO one who does not sanctify and walk the walk will see the father.
Heb 12:13 And make straight (keep the commandments) paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way (sanctification); but let it rather be healed.
Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness (SANCTIFYING YOURSELVES!), without which no man shall see the Lord:
He spoke them from Mt Sinai.
He is the word of God
Very hot topic, people have been trained to respond way to hard about the commandments saying THEY DONT SAVE US
no one believes the commandments save us
this is the straw man argument people are taught they are lied to and told that people preach that the commandments save us
this is not true and no one teaches that
Jesus saves us
JEsus Justifies us (forgives by his blood alone)
and Jesus sanctifies us (by his blood alone_)
The free and easy gospel leaves out sanctification and obedience
and to cover it up they accuse everyone of beliving the commandmenst save us
not truth
the turht is Jesus saves us
He justifies us
he sanctifies us all by his blood
he wants us to be obedient children
surely you being a parent can understand theis cant you?
There are rules that christians follow
they are saved and forgiven and they still follow the rules
is that not easy to understand
?
will the children of a family get together and say
"Dads rules are crazy, no one can keep them!
he should trust us!
He thinks we are bad!
We are inherently good inside and would never hurt a fly
why any rules at all?
If he loved us there would be no rules!
Well, that child who even mentioned it, is the devil
that is what he told heaven
and he hates the commandments for they are a pure and righteous character and they expose his covetousness trying to be head of the universe above God himself
anyway long stor
The commanments are the character of God and of christians.
the law is good
we look at it and see where we fall short
it coes not save us
it shows the egg on our faces, we who claim to be christians yet covet lie cheat and steal
it tells us
you are NOT a christian...
you are not even close to where you should be...
So then we go tp JESUS and say
JEsus we have sinned and love to sin
save us
and he says
yes you have sinned im glad you came to me 490 times today...
I will make you clean
and we say
Fill us with your spirit
and on the Sabbath he puts in the spirit and reconnects your neurons, creates new thoughts and new desires and the next week is better
each week is better
this is sanctification
growing in christian grtaces
to say sanctification is one time is toatly silly
no one suddenly speaks acts and talks perfectly with the law of God immediately
sanctification is not immediate
it is LEARNED by GRACE and DIVINE inspiration meditation reading the word and desiring to change and to keep aiming the right way
Justification is immediate (forgiveness) and you are with christ
and sanctification is continuous
if you die, you are with christ
as long as you abide in christ you cannot be lost
some christians are little children some are old patriarchs and wise all are safe in christ as long as they continue in the faith they are safe
why would the devil try and tempt you if you were once saved always saved?
makes no sense.
he is trying to get you to leave the christian walk and be lost in the world, for those who are lost in the world are hardened and harder to return.
but stay with christ and sanctify weekly
sanctification is totally impossible without the
Sabbath
so that is why it is never taught
they jsut say you are going to heaven by confession
not so
the devils confess christ is lord they arent going because they Refuse to sandctify themselves!
(read follow and obey the Bile)
all who sanctify and stay on the path are safe
devils will not obey
devils do not obey
demons dont obey
and fake christians teach you dont need to obey
all who teach obedience is not NECESSARY to be saved will be lost.
obedience does not save you
but DISOBEDIENCE SUREL
Y and certainly will not save you either.
Jesus saves
and you sanctify
the wisest man in the world said this.
it is our DUTY to sanctify
the christian DUTY that means something to DO
not so save
but to continue in the faith
or you WILL fall
teaching you wont fall doesnt make it so
it is false security and all those who believe once saved always saved I guarantee you will not sanctify themselves, for that is hard work
and they will be lost.
for
NO one who does not sanctify and walk the walk will see the father.
Heb 12:13 And make straight (keep the commandments) paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way (sanctification); but let it rather be healed.
Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness (SANCTIFYING YOURSELVES!), without which no man shall see the Lord: