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K
If the were no tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then we would not have a choice. We are freewill agents and not robots. We love God because we want to love God or we hate God because we want to hate God.
The same choice that God gave Satan and 1/3 of the angels. God will not force anyone to obey Him, He may use them as He used Pharoah, but will not force them to love Him.
The same choice that God gave Satan and 1/3 of the angels. God will not force anyone to obey Him, He may use them as He used Pharoah, but will not force them to love Him.
K
No no no, Satan will force you and it's called bondage, I.E. addiction and Satan will tempt you. The only way to defeat him is to trust and have faith in the one that did defeat him and that is Christ and Him Crucified. Jesus is the seed that was promised to Eve that He would bruise his head.
The definition of evil is disobedience to God and or thinking of yourself as god, this is called pride and pride goes before a fall. Satan was filled with pride when he wanted to be God. In Job God describes Satan as a dragon that laughs and mocks the weapons of men and calls him the father of the children of pride. Jesus told the pharisee's that they were of their father Satan. Why because of their pride in their own works.
The humble and the meek shall inherit the Earth.
Yes I agree with you, however the OP question that I answered was, did God create evil. God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Isaiah 45:7: " I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil, I the lord do all these things"
I think we just misunderstand the word evil.
I think we just misunderstand the word evil.
I agree with you completely, - God didn't create the evil, but God created each of His perfect creations with a free will to choose, not as robots. I even read a blog on this once on one of the web-sites and I liked it. Here it is : What Matters Most: Why Didn't God Make Us Robots?
Would anyone want to be a robot instead of a human?
Robot is programmed to do what he is designed to do, without feelings. Humans have feelings and aren't programmed, they can choose whether to obey God, their Creator, or disobey Him. So, evil, in this sense is a result of one's choice when one decides to do his own free will, while disobeying God and His principles. We are free to choose : to obey God and His laws, or disobey them.
So, if we live by His laws, - we are in light, if we choose to rebel against God and do the opposite, - we are in darkness. It's a choice, not a destiny. We can always turn away and come back to Him to be in His light, if we wish to. It's up to a person to decide.
[h=3]1 John 1:5 (New International Version (NIV))[/h]
[SUP]5 [/SUP]This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
Would anyone want to be a robot instead of a human?
Robot is programmed to do what he is designed to do, without feelings. Humans have feelings and aren't programmed, they can choose whether to obey God, their Creator, or disobey Him. So, evil, in this sense is a result of one's choice when one decides to do his own free will, while disobeying God and His principles. We are free to choose : to obey God and His laws, or disobey them. So, if we live by His laws, - we are in light, if we choose to rebel against God and do the opposite, - we are in darkness. It's a choice, not a destiny. We can always turn away and come back to Him to be in His light, if we wish to. It's up to a person to decide.
[h=3]1 John 1:5 (New International Version (NIV))[/h]
[SUP]5 [/SUP]This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
God created lucifer, but lucifer rebelled against God, i believe thats how evil came about. All this is still a mystery, but in my eyes Gos is all Good, and i will not say God Himself created evil, this is not a game. i don't think God created good and evil and put us here to see who wins. God knows who wins already, He tells us evil will be abolished, and only good will remain. In my opinion people saying God created evil, is disrespecting the Father, and trying to find loop holes to jump through. There is only one way, one truth, one life, and we learn that way, truth, and life, getting closer to Christ Jesus.
No, God does not create evil. You misunderstand the verse from Isaiah. The verb "ktizo" which have been tranlsated into english with "create" ("I create evil") means to work with already existing materials. The "I create evil" does not refer to the objective evil, to Evil with capital E, but it refers to evils that happen in our lives and that God allows so that we correct ourselves.
R
No No No!, Satan Does not force you or anyone, He dont have to, He only has you in bondage if you are weak to resist him. His influences is enough to tempt the weak, and thats when Satan has you on bondage. He doesnt have to do much to be honest, As we are a sinful world, all he has to do is just put a little hint in you, no force! It only becomes a force when we the stronger ones resists him. but in general Satan don't force nothing. Just influence, tempt, and twists the truth, with little force..
Thats why we have to wear the armour of God, to learn to ressit the enemy. Because it dont say in the bible that satan forces his way into our life does it? It mentions, temptations, and temptations is not a force.
Thats why we have to wear the armour of God, to learn to ressit the enemy. Because it dont say in the bible that satan forces his way into our life does it? It mentions, temptations, and temptations is not a force.
R
Well Im sure when God created the angels, he gave them free will too. He did not make them robots. So the fall of Lucifer was his doing. Hence why Lucifer then named, fall from heaven, because Sin is forbidden there. So yeh God did create lucifer, But he did not create evil. It was lucifer created it for himself, and God quite rightly kicked him out of heaven. As sin dont belong in heaven. So to be honest, This free will has a lot to answer for. Its us that create evil, because the enemy now called Satan, is the prince of the air, and was cast down to earth. and roams the earth devouring.with his influences of evil. There was a suggestion or statement that Satan forces evil upon us, well he don't he dont need to, we are a sinful being anyways, all Satan has to do, is influence us, and thats enough to cause us to sin, and be evil.
Otherwise God would not of told us to put on the armour of God, to resist agains the arrows from the enemy. Those arrows aren't force, he just has to fling them at you, and if we are weak, then thats were he has us in a bondage of some sort.
Otherwise God would not of told us to put on the armour of God, to resist agains the arrows from the enemy. Those arrows aren't force, he just has to fling them at you, and if we are weak, then thats were he has us in a bondage of some sort.
R
To answer your question honestly. Well those questions are not for me to answer. Why did God create Lucifer if he was to rebel? well I'm not sure, But God may felt that he would like to give him a second chance perhaps, He created the angels as his children with free will, if you had children and one of them rebelled, would you disown him straight way? I think you would give him another chance to see if he would not do it again right?.
As far as God knowing that Lucifer would rebel? well that I cant say with honesty. however, God does know everything, and perhaps he did knew that lucifer would turn against him. But again as a loving father God is, he may have thought well there is good in Lucifer, and hoped that he could shine that goodness. but he didnt and thrown him out of heaven, You noticed he did not destroy lucifer? Did you noticed he did not kill him?
Why? because God the father must of loved him still. But Sin, and that rebelion wasnt to be in heaven so that why he threw lucifer out of heaven.
As far as God knowing that Lucifer would rebel? well that I cant say with honesty. however, God does know everything, and perhaps he did knew that lucifer would turn against him. But again as a loving father God is, he may have thought well there is good in Lucifer, and hoped that he could shine that goodness. but he didnt and thrown him out of heaven, You noticed he did not destroy lucifer? Did you noticed he did not kill him?
Why? because God the father must of loved him still. But Sin, and that rebelion wasnt to be in heaven so that why he threw lucifer out of heaven.