The Cross should not be our symbol

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I scrolled through the responses and I didn't see anyone else saying this, so If I'm repeating, I'm sorry, I missed it.

But to me,..the cross isn't a reminder of his death. Reading that the cross killed him, kind of makes me laugh.
He was raised again!
Its a symbol of the Price he paid for us. The sacrifice he made. His love, that he was willing to go through that.
He's alive, he always has been. Nothing could kill Jesus. Its a symbol of love, ultimately.
For me, anyway.
The Lord Jesus did indeed die at the Cross and His death is referred to in the New Testament; but, yes, indeed, the Lord Jesus did rise from the dead and ascend to the Father, because death could not hold Him, since He is sinless. He even now intercedes (Hebrews 7.25) for those whom He purchased by His own precious blood. He has obtained the victory (1 Corinthians 15.57).
 

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The Lord Jesus did indeed die at the Cross and His death is referred to in the New Testament; but, yes, indeed, the Lord Jesus did rise from the dead and ascend to the Father, because death could not hold Him, since He is sinless. He even now intercedes (Hebrews 7.25) for those whom He purchased by His own precious blood. He has obtained the victory (1 Corinthians 15.57).
Yes, and that is exactly what I meant :)
I guess I should have said, nothing could kill Jesus if he didn't allow it, or nothing could kill him permanently. He died, but the focus is on the fact that he now lives!
 
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Wrong, it stands for His sacrifice, He died for us ALL.
It's 'sick and demented' to question that.
What is the corporate sin that cut them to the heart and was repented of individually to be guaranteed the escape from the wrath of God?
 

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To me, its just a reminder of his life, not his death.
I guess a better representation of that would be an empty grave or something,...But a cross is much more simple lol.
 
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As well as the symbol it need to be a doctrine clearly understood Biblically.

Some people wear a cross (pendant, tattoo, etc.) but this does not guarantee a full, Biblical understanding of the truth of the Cross of Christ.
 
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The Lord Jesus did indeed die at the Cross and His death is referred to in the New Testament; but, yes, indeed, the Lord Jesus did rise from the dead and ascend to the Father, because death could not hold Him, since He is sinless. He even now intercedes (Hebrews 7.25) for those whom He purchased by His own precious blood. He has obtained the victory (1 Corinthians 15.57).

Maybe I should write: "I'm a christian I know about Jesus" after every post so I don't get the redundant post telling me what Jesus.


Again, lets say he died by a Iron Maiden, or a rifle, or an axe.

Do you think it would be acceptable to make that christianity's symbol? A symbol that was a known murder tool back in the day?
 

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Yeah, I think its fine. Lol,...Maybe not the most accurate description of life, but,..Its a pretty big part of that story, One that deserves respect, you know? And its easy to doodle on Sunday mornings during service,..
 

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Oh, and I'm sorry that everyone is preaching at you, like you don't know. Lol, our bad,...
 
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Oh, and I'm sorry that everyone is preaching at you, like you don't know. Lol, our bad,...
It's no problem, just weird how the first go-to response is "he clearly doesn't know about Jesus"(on a christian forum).

I much prefer the fish or any other symbol to the cross.


I think too many christians are into the "torture porn" that is the cross. Which is the reason why movies like "the passion" make so much.
 
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(...) Again, lets say he died by a Iron Maiden, or a rifle, or an axe.

Do you think it would be acceptable to make that christianity's symbol? A symbol that was a known murder tool back in the day?
Death by Iron Maiden: sounds like a gruesome death to me. :eek:



But seriously: I suggest you study christian icongraphy FIRST
before you decide to write even more of these ignorant posts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_cross

 

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Well,..I like the fish too. That's a good one I had kind of forgotten about.

And as far as the Passion goes,..I think its a great witnessing tool. Like,..Look how valuable you are, that he chose to do this for you. It gives people a really good,.. "Intro to Jesus" if that makes sense.

You can't just cut out the gore of it all because its unpleasant,..I wish I could,..But its a major part of that story,..
 
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"During the first two centuries of Christianity, the cross may have been rare in Christian iconography, as it depicts a purposely painful and gruesome method of public execution and Christians were reluctant to use it."
 
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"During the first two centuries of Christianity, the cross may have been rare in Christian iconography, as it depicts a purposely painful and gruesome method of public execution and Christians were reluctant to use it."
Read on,
we're not in the first centuries of Christianity anymore, now are we?
 
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Read on,
we're not in the first centuries of Christianity anymore, now are we?
I'm just curious, if we used an ancient torture as the symbol instead, would that be ok with you?
 
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I'm just curious, if we used an ancient torture as the symbol instead, would that be ok with you?
I'm just curious. If you're really a Christian, why are you so ignorant of the Bible and Christianity and so opposed to any of the core truths of the Christian faith to which you supposedly adhere?
 

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Why is it Empire VS Tintin hour? I'm a bit confused,..
 

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He pretends to be someone he's not, that bursts my boiler. I'm done with him.
I used to do that a lot,.. :(

But I don't nowadays,..Its a pretty cool thing.
 
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I'm just curious, if we used an ancient torture as the symbol instead, would that be ok with you?
You're so fond of 'what if' questions... :rolleyes:
 
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You're so fond of 'what if' questions... :rolleyes:
And your so fond of not answering.

Wonder what that means, huh?

I'm just curious. If you're really a Christian, why are you so ignorant of the Bible and Christianity and so opposed to any of the core truths of the Christian faith to which you supposedly adhere?
Hmm. Maybe you got the wrong Idea of what it means to be a Christian?

Being a christian does not mean you can't question anything. Especially one so non-bible related as the cross for our symbol.


I'll ask you one in return since I answered:

"Why is it anyone who disagrees with you isn't a Christian?"