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1still_waters
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For me it's not about bashing. I try to be as objective as possible with politics, so when I perceive that maybe things are more about "politics", I kinda like to point it out.
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Are you an honorably discharged veteran Drett? I am. Or, more likely, are you an armchair general hypocritically calling everyone else an armchair general?
No need to answer Drett. The British armed forces doesn't take Muslim potheads into its ranks.
might want to get the facts right before your accused of being a false witness
UK's Muslim soldiers ‘fighting extremists not Muslims'
With more than 600 Muslims in the British Armed Forces, do those that are deployed on the front line in Afghanistan have to reconcile their beliefs in order to fight hardline Islamic Taliban militants?
BBC News - UK's Muslim soldiers ‘fighting extremists not Muslims'
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Bush became President after 8 years of Clinton's doing nothing about terrorism:
Bin Ladin......Clinton did nothing
terrorists tried to blow up WTC...Clinton did nothing
USS Cole bombed...Clinton did nothing
USS Cole: 'Rock solid' evidence, no retaliation - US news - Security | NBC News
In the days after the attack, President Clinton vowed retribution against the terrorists. “You will not find a safe harbor,” he proclaimed. “We will find you and justice will prevail.”
But in his final months in office, Clinton never retaliated against al-Qaida, frustrating some of his own counterterrorism advisors. Clinton later told the 9/11 commission he was never shown hard proof that Osama bin Laden’s operatives were behind the attack.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/218683/facts-about-clinton-and-terrorism/byron-york
The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
You don't need a movie to see his failures.
Clinton talked tough. But he did not act tough. Indeed, a review of his years in office shows that each time the president was confronted with a major terrorist attack — the February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole — Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting terrorism.
North may have lied, but commissions that investigated Iran-Contra could not prove Reagan knew about what those in his admin. were doing.
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1still_waters
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Bush didn't do anything about the USS Cole or Osama either. Well until after 911. Then after 9-11 he indicated he didn't think about the guy who murdered 3000 Americans.
[video=youtube;4PGmnz5Ow-o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o[/video]
As far as pointing out that Clinton did nothing to get Osama, to justify what happened under Bush. I'd label that as "blaming Clinton". Bush was president. If Obama can't "blame Bush" even though Bush was in power for 8 years, then ya can't "blame Clinton" for things that happened under Bush.
And if Obama had said he didn't think much about the guy who murdered 3000 Americans, less than a year after 911, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be winked and nodded at.
Because when his lies fail, he brings out the hatred.
I suspect AgeofKnowledge is not all that meets the eye either.
Elizabeth but are you saying that NO ONE can comment either way on this Prisoner of War because all facts haven't been revealed?
If you are, then you agree with me.
I hope to see you challenge people here on their lies then.
Will you do that? Search your heart, are you being fair here?
The Republican party have nothing to do with Christianity. They regularly lie.
They are acting disgusting on this issue. A disgusting mob that started this war, now attacks veterans and a POW no less.
I will not be lectured to kiss the butt of Republicans when my family fought in these illegal wars.
Will no one here have an decency and respect for veterans?
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AgeofKnowledge
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So David_1 decided this was an excellent opportunity to jump in and falsely malign me for doing exactly what he just did (e.g. lying and fomenting hatred) which, of course, also means David_1 has acted hypocritically as well.
I wish I could say that I suspect you David_1 of being more than meets the eye but unfortunately, I do not.
And I don't really care what your silly suspicions about me or anyone else here are but I will advise you not to libel yourself for if you grab the horn, then you meet the bull. Capesh?
Now buzz off and learn to do something good. Life is short and you're wasting it.
I wish I could say that I suspect you David_1 of being more than meets the eye but unfortunately, I do not.
And I don't really care what your silly suspicions about me or anyone else here are but I will advise you not to libel yourself for if you grab the horn, then you meet the bull. Capesh?
Now buzz off and learn to do something good. Life is short and you're wasting it.
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Some of us are honorably discharged veterans David_1 who never deserted: so do the math.
Oooh very touchy, for the first time that I am saying this. And... I am haven't said anything specific.
But you know... Ha ha... you know that I am on to you.
*wink
Some of these comments are truly a REAL HOOT!
no, seriously...........
"Until ALL the facts are known"................"snap judgments"............and such...........
You guys DO KNOW that this guy WAS with the Taliban for FIVE YEARS?
You guys DO KNOW that TWO prior Investigations have taken place?
You guys DO KNOW that the Soldiers WHO served with this guy on a DAILY BASIS are the MOST QUALIFIED to come to a decision concerning his actions?
You guys DO KNOW what these Soldiers have said?
no, seriously...........
"Until ALL the facts are known"................"snap judgments"............and such...........
You guys DO KNOW that this guy WAS with the Taliban for FIVE YEARS?
You guys DO KNOW that TWO prior Investigations have taken place?
You guys DO KNOW that the Soldiers WHO served with this guy on a DAILY BASIS are the MOST QUALIFIED to come to a decision concerning his actions?
You guys DO KNOW what these Soldiers have said?
Blaming Bush for 8 prior years of Clinton's do nothing policy?
The WTC was bombed shortly after Clinton became President. He had almost 8 years to do something but did nothing. 9/11 happens a few months after Bush became President Bush was to accomplish in a few months what Clinton neglected in 8 years?
HISTORY: Clinton’s Inactions Led to 9/11 Attacks
| History shows that Democrat Bill Clinton during his presidency (1/20/1993 thru 1/20/2001) failed to respond to terrorist attacks. He was more concerned with his image and [URL="http://factreal.wordpress.com/2012/09/05/bill-clintons-war-on-women-rape-sexual-harassment-videos/"]sex scandals |
| than protecting this nation. Clinton’s dereliction of duty and conscious negligence only emboldened the Islamic terrorists. |
| After each attack Clinton decided to do nothing, unless it advanced his popularity or distracted Americans from his domestic problems:● In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds. ● In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered. Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: “The youth…realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat.” ● In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists. ● In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists. ● Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil. Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam’s forces. ● In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane. ● In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no. ● On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists. ● On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury. Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory. On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day. Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as “by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991.” ● The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics. ● In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists. Clinton did nothing. |
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1still_waters
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Lol I love how Bush apparently doesn't even exist for eight years, then the economic collapse that happens DURING and AFTER isn't his fault, but is the fault of the guy who was president eight years before him, then the guy who took office one day after him.
This is exactly my point!
Republicans act as if Bush basically didn't exist for eight years, then they blame EVERYTHING on Clinton.
But then as soon as Obama takes office and blames things on Bush, all the sudden it's "blaming Bush".
Politics is so funny.