Is vegetarianism wrong?

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we are living in the fallen state are we not? Yes I got saved, thank God. But I am still in the flesh and I have to eat. If every moving thig was good enough for Noah, then it's good enough for me.

Romans 14.
Yes, that is true... God doesn't want us to worry about our flesh anymore, but to focus on our hearts (soul) and that is what He is looking at. The flesh can be restored at the end; but the soul is the one thing that has the freedom to desire what it want to do; and which that cannot be restored at the end, it must be restored before it reaches the end or it will be lock out.


Genesis 9:21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent.

Genesis 39:6 So Potiphar left everything he had in Joseph’s care; with Joseph in charge, he did not concern himself with anything except the food he ate. Now Joseph was well-built and handsome,

Esther 2:9 She pleased him and won his favor. Immediately he provided her with her beauty treatments and special food. He assigned to her seven female attendants selected from the king’s palace and moved her and her attendants into the best place in the harem.
 
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Yes, that is true... God doesn't want us to worry about our flesh anymore, but to focus on our hearts (soul) and that is what He is looking at. The flesh can be restored at the end; but the soul is the one thing that has the freedom to desire what it want to do; and which that cannot be restored at the end, it must be restored before it reaches the end or it will be lock out.


Genesis 9:21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent.

Genesis 39:6 So Potiphar left everything he had in Joseph’s care; with Joseph in charge, he did not concern himself with anything except the food he ate. Now Joseph was well-built and handsome,

Esther 2:9 She pleased him and won his favor. Immediately he provided her with her beauty treatments and special food. He assigned to her seven female attendants selected from the king’s palace and moved her and her attendants into the best place in the harem.
I think you have it backwards. Put on the new man. Look, when a person accepts Christ they are restored spiritually. Our minds are being renewed by the word of God (Jesus). Our bodies have not yet been redeemed, the price has been paid, but the transaction is not complete. We have the Holy Spirit to help us. We will not be whole until the rapture when are bodies are redeemed.

Therefore, every thing that moves is food. It may sound awful, but that includes roaches and spiders and whatever. It is all protein and doctors will tell you that you need protein and if your are going to be vegetarian the you need to drink protein shakes. But, wher do the shakes get there protein, mostly from gelatin which is made from animal sinew.
 
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Correction Cartilage. you know the gristly stuff and the end of a chicken leg.
 
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Strain at a gnat ... swallow a camel ...
 
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Although some newer protein shakes are made with cricket flour.
 
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And according to the law of Moses crickets are lawful to eat.
 
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I think you have it backwards. Put on the new man. Look, when a person accepts Christ they are restored spiritually. Our minds are being renewed by the word of God (Jesus). Our bodies have not yet been redeemed, the price has been paid, but the transaction is not complete. We have the Holy Spirit to help us. We will not be whole until the rapture when are bodies are redeemed.

Therefore, every thing that moves is food. It may sound awful, but that includes roaches and spiders and whatever. It is all protein and doctors will tell you that you need protein and if your are going to be vegetarian the you need to drink protein shakes. But, wher do the shakes get there protein, mostly from gelatin which is made from animal sinew.
I eat meat but it has to be kosher. But the Vegetarians can get their proteins from organic nuts and beans(especially soy).
 

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who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
(1Ti 4:3-4)
 
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The only reason that I'd put down organic, it is because God didn't created chemicals and genetic modified foods and said it was good. Monsantos created it and said it was good.But I preferred to listen to God.
 
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The only reason that I'd put down organic, it is because God didn't created chemicals and genetic modified foods and said it was good. Monsantos created it and said it was good.But I preferred to listen to God.
But God created catfish and said it was good and the pig.
 
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But God created catfish and said it was good and the pig.
Yes, but what are they good for? Adam and Eve didn't had no public restroom, but the pigs came in handy by keeping them from stepping into their own feces. The horse and a camel is forbidden to eat as well and they doesn't eat feces, but they were designed to handle a different task.
 
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Yes, but what are they good for? Adam and Eve didn't had no public restroom, but the pigs came in handy by keeping them from stepping into their own feces. The horse and a camel is forbidden to eat as well and they doesn't eat feces, but they were designed to handle a different task.
I take it that you have never raised chickens. They eat their own poop and each other. That's why chicken houses are on raised floors with screens so that the poop falls through so they can't eat it. But, free range chickens eat their own poop. And it's lawful to eat chickens.
 
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The funny thing is this. Farmers buy the chicken poop and cow poop and use it to grow vegetables.
 
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Good night y'all
 
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I take it that you have never raised chickens. They eat their own poop and each other. That's why chicken houses are on raised floors with screens so that the poop falls through so they can't eat it. But, free range chickens eat their own poop. And it's lawful to eat chickens.
My parents had raised chickens and the chickens (unless it had thought to be something else) never had ate their own poop, because they weren't coop up in a small confinement area. I'd seen people in third world countries on a documentaries, that they'd ate from cities dumps, and contaminated drinking water because they had limited unavailable resources to find food or water else where. Is it healthy? I'm sure it is not.

In the late 80’s and early 90’s Genetically Modified Organism’s (GMO’s) received approval for large scale cultivation. This means that a large % of the feed traditional cattle receive today comes from something who’s DNA has been modified! If you can drastically reduce the cost of the feed for your cattle, this again means you can bring it to market at a lower cost. It’s all about making it faster and cheaper. Organic beef contains no GMO’s.
You may be wondering what this has to do with organic beef. Well, it’s really the whole reason why there was a need for farmers to start producing organic beef, people found out how the cattle were being raised and what was going into them. You add this to all of the crazy increases in disease in America and you wonder if there is a correlation.
- See more at: Organic Beef - Topline Foods http://www.toplinefoods.com/organic-beef-info/
 

p_rehbein

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Biblically speaking, it's neither right or wrong...........it's a personal choice..........
 
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we can take our beliefs and find scriptures to support them all we want, that's called eisegesis - and it's pretty damaging - even more so when you start judging others based on this, is there dietary restriction - I would read Galatians
 

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everyone will become vegetarian before they enter heaven...
I just did it sooner rather than latermeat causes so many deseases

Chapter and Verses please?

Jesus certainly ate fish in His glorified, resurrected body.

Luke 24:39-43 (NKJV)
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have."
[SUP]40 [/SUP]When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, "Have you any food here?"
[SUP]42 [/SUP]So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And He took it and ate in their presence.
 

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we can take our beliefs and find scriptures to support them all we want, that's called eisegesis - and it's pretty damaging - even more so when you start judging others based on this, is there dietary restriction - I would read Galatians
Acts 17:11 (NIV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

1 Timothy 4:1-4 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
[SUP]3 [/SUP] forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;