Theistic Evolution vs. Christian Worldview

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eternally-gratefull

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And dinosaurs and man coexisted, right?

And man hunted dinosaurs like Native Americans hunted buffalo, right?

Or maybe not. Maybe T-Rex and man were buddies.

What do you suppose the relationship between man and dinosaurs was like? No wait. You don't suppose, you know.

So tell us.

tell you what?

Dino's are in the bible?? (I know you think the behemoth is a rino right?? HA HA, since when is the rino the greatest of all Gods creation?

Than fossils have been found of man and dino roaming the earth together.

That God gave man power over all animals (including the dino's) before the fall. And it was not until after that man had to fear some aniimals??

Do you even read your bible?? Somthing tells me you read only what you want to read. and not what it says.
 
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tell you what?

Dino's are in the bible?? (I know you think the behemoth is a rino right?? HA HA, since when is the rino the greatest of all Gods creation?

Than fossils have been found of man and dino roaming the earth together.

That God gave man power over all animals (including the dino's) before the fall. And it was not until after that man had to fear some aniimals??

Do you even read your bible?? Somthing tells me you read only what you want to read. and not what it says.
The hippo and rhino tail doesn't sways back and forth like a cedar tree. But a Croc tail does, but that would have mean that this serpent had once stand on all two's and then had been brought down to its belly. I believe that some of the fossils are the same species, but over time that specie develop gradually stunted in growth. But archaeologist probably thought that they were different sect of species, but instead it was the same specie but they had caught the stages in its decline.
 
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The hippo and rhino tail doesn't sways back and forth like a cedar tree. But a Croc tail does, but that would have mean that this serpent had once stand on all two's and then had been brought down to its belly. I believe that some of the fossils are the same species, but over time that specie develop gradually stunted in growth. But archaeologist probably thought that they were different sect of species, but instead it was the same specie but they had caught the stages in its decline.
ever seen a lebanon cedar? A man standing next to it looks like a spec of dust the tree is so large.

The is the explanation of the tail. A large tree swings in the wind, It must be an amazing sight to see something so huge sway like it does..
 

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The so called "objective" scientists dismiss the evidences of man and dinosaur fossils in the same rock strata because of their "presupposition" that the two cannot have walked together because of the differences in ages, i.e. circular reasoning.

A good example of scientists dismissing man from rock layers considered too old is the case of "Lucy". Lucy,
"Australopithecus afarensis", was discovered in Tanzania in 1974. Based on 47 out of 207 bones, in which most of the hands, feet, and skull, were missing, scientist determined that because of human footprints nearby, that this "ape like", (thus the name Australopithecus), creature was a transitional fossil between man and ape. When questioned that perhaps the man like footprints were actually from a man, the scientists scoffed, saying, "why surely you know that no humans existed then". This is considered "objective science", as opposed to "faith".

Later on, when more bones were found, Lucy was found to be a 100%
knuckle walking ape. The exhibit at the St. Louis Zoo Living World Exhibit paints an entirely different picture. The ape is shown standing and walking better than any human, even though this would be impossible with the ape hip bones, and staring thoughtfully into the distance. It even has whites in the eyes, certainly never discovered in any fossil.

The artists rendition is meant as part of a magical act, to fool people like JackH, who were suitably prepared in our educational system to look the other way while the magician is performing his act.
 

superdave5221

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I am sorry JackH. I shouldn't give you such a hard time, and I don't mean to.

But you need to wake up and realize that you can trust the word of God 100% of the time, and that means Genesis 1-11 also. You are lucky to be able to trust man's word half the time.

Please reconsider your position and do not put your trust in man ahead of your trust in God. God will never deceive you or lead you astray, if you truly trust Him.
 

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The Pope and the Catholic Catechism appear to have a reasonable position on evolution. Chalk one up in the plus side for Catholic and one on the negative side for Evangelical and Fundamentalist on this issue, in my opinion.
There tends to be a lot of negatives on the far fundamentalist side. Being anti-science is just one of them.
 
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There tends to be a lot of negatives on the far fundamentalist side. Being anti-science is just one of them.
who is anti science? I happen to love science.. I was a fundi for many years. Non of them that I remember were anti science.
 
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There tends to be a lot of negatives on the far fundamentalist side. Being anti-science is just one of them.
If a person claim to be faithful to God but put science before God's word, isn't a faithful person, and the Bible calls them fornicators, because they are double-minded. The evolution theory that science speaks of, goes against the scriptures and which it is God's words; and anyone that goes against Him, was never with Him. Evolutionist can't believe that things can happen spontaneously, but it takes a very slow process for things to evolve. Now maybe an ape had walked upright like the serpent had once did, because it is written that the curse of the serpent was that it was going to be brought down to its belly; and which it doesn't make any sense to curse a being down to its belly, if it is already on its belly. If a sudden major disaster had happen and it will cause everything in its environment to change or become deformed. But if the Evolutionist's messiah(Darwin) didn't said it happen like that, then it is not so.
 
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If a person claim to be faithful to God but put science before God's word, isn't a faithful person, and the Bible calls them fornicators
What verse(s), exactly, are you referring to here?

Believing that the earth is much older than 6,000 years old is not contrary to Gods' Word. Many Christians and many religious leaders believe that the earth is much older than 6,000 years. Are you claiming that they are all fornicators for believing and saying that?

I believe that God created humans and the all the rest. I don't believe that man was created 6,000 years ago, dinosaurs were created 6,000 years ago, and the earth was created 6,000 years ago.
 
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What verse(s), exactly, are you referring to here?

Believing that the earth is much older than 6,000 years old is not contrary to Gods' Word. Many Christians and many religious leaders believe that the earth is much older than 6,000 years. Are you claiming that they are all fornicators for believing and saying that?

I believe that God created humans and the all the rest. I don't believe that man was created 6,000 years ago, dinosaurs were created 6,000 years ago, and the earth was created 6,000 years ago.
but do you believe man, dino's and the earth were created at the same time, as the bible says they were?
 

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What verse(s), exactly, are you referring to here?

Believing that the earth is much older than 6,000 years old is not contrary to Gods' Word. Many Christians and many religious leaders believe that the earth is much older than 6,000 years. Are you claiming that they are all fornicators for believing and saying that?

I believe that God created humans and the all the rest. I don't believe that man was created 6,000 years ago, dinosaurs were created 6,000 years ago, and the earth was created 6,000 years ago.
May I ask why you don't believe that creation is young? Why, in your terms is millions of years more conceivable than thousands?
 
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but do you believe man, dino's and the earth were created at the same time, as the bible says they were?
No, I don't believe that man, dinosaurs, and the earth were created at the same time. They were created, in my opinion, millions of years apart, or more. The Bible, in my opinion, doesn't say they were created at the same time. YOUR interpretation of the Bible says they were created at the same time.
 
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May I ask why you don't believe that creation is young? Why, in your terms is millions of years more conceivable than thousands?
I examined what evidence is available, both biblical and scientific, and concluded that the world is much older than 6,000 years. Just as the Pope and Pat Robertson and many others have done. The majority of Christians in the world do not believe the world is 6,000 years old.
 

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No, I don't believe that man, dinosaurs, and the earth were created at the same time. They were created, in my opinion, millions of years apart, or more. The Bible, in my opinion, doesn't say they were created at the same time. YOUR interpretation of the Bible says they were created at the same time.
That's a good standard...your opinion. I gave you two passages earlier out of Romans why theistic evolution is incompatible with the creation account but I guess your opinion trumphed.
 

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tell you what?

Dino's are in the bible?? (I know you think the behemoth is a rino right?? HA HA, since when is the rino the greatest of all Gods creation?

Than fossils have been found of man and dino roaming the earth together.

That God gave man power over all animals (including the dino's) before the fall. And it was not until after that man had to fear some aniimals??

Do you even read your bible?? Somthing tells me you read only what you want to read. and not what it says.
More precise it was the fear of man that was instilled into the animals after the Flood.

Genesis 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
 
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That's a good standard...your opinion. I gave you two passages earlier out of Romans why theistic evolution is incompatible with the creation account but I guess your opinion trumphed.
Those verses in Romans you cited don't shed any light on the issue of whether the world is 6,000 years old do they?

If so, please enlighten me.

Enlighten me doesn't mean to copy and paste the verses again.
 
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More precise it was the fear of man that was instilled into the animals after the Flood.

Genesis 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
Do you think T-Rex feared humans?

How did T-Rex become extinct, anyway? T-Rex burgers?
 
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No, I don't believe that man, dinosaurs, and the earth were created at the same time. They were created, in my opinion, millions of years apart, or more. The Bible, in my opinion, doesn't say they were created at the same time. YOUR interpretation of the Bible says they were created at the same time.
then yuo do not believe in the word of God

You believe in a twisted and distorted word of God. which makes it useless