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Hebrews 8:8-12
"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah; Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them out by the hand to lead them out of Egypt: because they contiued not in My covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put My laws in their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to Me a people."
13."In that He saith a "A new covenant", He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."
"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah; Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them out by the hand to lead them out of Egypt: because they contiued not in My covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put My laws in their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to Me a people."
13."In that He saith a "A new covenant", He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."
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Would you like to discuss the errors of relativity? I as a Christian will use the Absolute Truth of God and the Bible and all science given by God, to destroy any notion of the evil relativity doctrine that has crawled up through the grates of the pit of Hell. Special Relativity Theory has been proven to be utterly flawed!
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Because it is NOT the truth, Relativity is NOT Christian and as Science it is flawed, it is of Satanic origin, you say my 'science is abysmal', read through my thread, does it sound to you that I know nothing of science? Relativity is flawed, time is static, God has set time in motion, time is not fluid, and it does not change according to relative position, that is a lie, there are reference markers for time and this has been proven, the universe that God has created is not based on your personal perspective it is based on God's absolute truth. There is a link between relative science and relative morals, moral relativism is an evil antichristian doctrine.
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Now you say that not only is the earth surface rotating counter-clockwise at 1000 mph, but that the atmosphere is also moving at the same speed! Snail' go and walk on a treadmill or walk up a descending escalator in a 1000 mph head wind, and note the results, better still fly a plane clockwise round the earth at 500 mph against a counterclockwise headwind of 1000 mph and a earth spinning beneath you at 1000 mph??????????????????????????? Dear Me when God said He would send strong delusion, He really meant it!
Flawed though it may be, it's been established by experiment after experiment.
Yes. You've made it clear you know nothing of legitimate science.
It has been proven that time flows differently relative to gravity. We've made clocks lose time! It's an established fact. This has nothing to do with the sovereignty of God. It's just an interesting tidbit that we have learned about the rules of the universe that God has set down.
That's complete BS. Special Relativity in science has nothing to do with moral relativism. Moral relativism has been around since the dawn of time and is a philosophical stance that has nothing to do with the fabric of the universe.
Um, we'd be dealing with 1000 MPH winds if the air wasn't moving with the Earth. Here's that thing were general relativity creeps up on you in such a simple way that it will bite you in the rear if you're not paying attention: if the atmosphere were stationary over a moving Earth, then we'd be constantly bombarded by 1000 MPH winds. If the Earth and winds were both stationary, then we wouldn't see the effects of Foucault's pendulum.
Yeah really. You should pray that God fixes that for you. Cup of Ruin levels of delusion are rare and often terminal.
Yes. You've made it clear you know nothing of legitimate science.
It has been proven that time flows differently relative to gravity. We've made clocks lose time! It's an established fact. This has nothing to do with the sovereignty of God. It's just an interesting tidbit that we have learned about the rules of the universe that God has set down.
That's complete BS. Special Relativity in science has nothing to do with moral relativism. Moral relativism has been around since the dawn of time and is a philosophical stance that has nothing to do with the fabric of the universe.
Um, we'd be dealing with 1000 MPH winds if the air wasn't moving with the Earth. Here's that thing were general relativity creeps up on you in such a simple way that it will bite you in the rear if you're not paying attention: if the atmosphere were stationary over a moving Earth, then we'd be constantly bombarded by 1000 MPH winds. If the Earth and winds were both stationary, then we wouldn't see the effects of Foucault's pendulum.
Yeah really. You should pray that God fixes that for you. Cup of Ruin levels of delusion are rare and often terminal.
As Brackenzee or someone said , everything is travelling this fast and the earth's atmosphere but we don't realise it because we are used to it, and relative to us. Just like you are in a car travelling at 100 km/h if the car is smooth you don't realise you are going at 100 km/hr if you are reading a book - your books pages aren't flying around at 100 km/hr inside the car lol. Boy you sure are below pre-school level in your scientific knowledge, perhaps squirting coloured water at walls from spray bottles and seeing it make different pretty colours might be a more suitable scientific level for you to start at?
by the way, space vehicles making atmospheric reentry must account for the rotation of the earth in the navigation calculations. Earth rotation also causes the weather patterns and determines which way the cyclones/hurricanes spiral.Earth rotation is a proven thing, in meterology, spacecraft navigation, satellite orbits, inertial navigation and gyrocompasses, to name a few.
by the way, space vehicles making atmospheric reentry must account for the rotation of the earth in the navigation calculations. Earth rotation also causes the weather patterns and determines which way the cyclones/hurricanes spiral.Earth rotation is a proven thing, in meterology, spacecraft navigation, satellite orbits, inertial navigation and gyrocompasses, to name a few.
Does the Bible not say that a day with the Lord is as 1000 years and 1000 years as one day?
See, there. I've Biblically proven that time is relative.
The only one completely out of their depth here is you. Earth is a sphere! Whether you'd call its rotation clockwise or counter clockwise depends on whether you're looking at it from the Northern or Southern hemisphere.
Oh, snap, you've proven me wrong. How could I have possible questioned your superior logic?
See, there. I've Biblically proven that time is relative.
The only one completely out of their depth here is you. Earth is a sphere! Whether you'd call its rotation clockwise or counter clockwise depends on whether you're looking at it from the Northern or Southern hemisphere.
Oh, snap, you've proven me wrong. How could I have possible questioned your superior logic?
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Nice effort.
I am contemplating Foucault's Pendelum and the rational nature of God's design. The UN General Assembly Builing in New York has one on a 75 foot wire with a 200lb bob that spins 235 degrees in 24 hours as a result of inertia from a rotating earth. It was a gift from the Queen of the Netherlands. How do I get on her Christmas list? A pendulumn at the equater does not spin and at the poles it spins 360 degrees in 24 hours. Pendelum between the pole and equator would spin fewer than 360 degrees with each latidude having a predictable quantity that can be establised by mathmatically smarter people than me but not to hard to follow.
If multiple pendelum were set up at the same time, it would simultaneously show the earth is round and spins on its axis. I know this thread was not debating the flat earth thing but I was just making sure.
If nothing else this thread has made me appreciate Issac Newton and his faith inspired observations since his basic concepts of motion were key to this.
Don't expect this to change opinions here as there is more entrenching in this thread than in the defensive positions during WWI.
However I can rejoice in the marvelous nature of God's design and worship an awsome creator and share that with you. A clever, largely home-schooled Frenchman, allows us to see one more aspect of God's creation in a spectacularlly simple way. Beautifully revealing of God's design.
Nice effort.
I am contemplating Foucault's Pendelum and the rational nature of God's design. The UN General Assembly Builing in New York has one on a 75 foot wire with a 200lb bob that spins 235 degrees in 24 hours as a result of inertia from a rotating earth. It was a gift from the Queen of the Netherlands. How do I get on her Christmas list? A pendulumn at the equater does not spin and at the poles it spins 360 degrees in 24 hours. Pendelum between the pole and equator would spin fewer than 360 degrees with each latidude having a predictable quantity that can be establised by mathmatically smarter people than me but not to hard to follow.
If multiple pendelum were set up at the same time, it would simultaneously show the earth is round and spins on its axis. I know this thread was not debating the flat earth thing but I was just making sure.
If nothing else this thread has made me appreciate Issac Newton and his faith inspired observations since his basic concepts of motion were key to this.
Don't expect this to change opinions here as there is more entrenching in this thread than in the defensive positions during WWI.
However I can rejoice in the marvelous nature of God's design and worship an awsome creator and share that with you. A clever, largely home-schooled Frenchman, allows us to see one more aspect of God's creation in a spectacularlly simple way. Beautifully revealing of God's design.
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I know you did not need any support from me but here nevertheless
Jean Bernard Léon Foucault is also the first to measure the APPARENT movement of the stars around the Earth in what is called diurnal motion which is seen the diurnal disk. He was showing a second way to view the rotation of the Earth on its axis following the use of his pendelum experiment in Paris in the mid 1800s.
He also showed that light travels more slowly through water than in air and a few other things.
Counter clockwise (anticlockwise for my brothers down under) relative to the North Star is what he established.
Jean Bernard Léon Foucault is also the first to measure the APPARENT movement of the stars around the Earth in what is called diurnal motion which is seen the diurnal disk. He was showing a second way to view the rotation of the Earth on its axis following the use of his pendelum experiment in Paris in the mid 1800s.
He also showed that light travels more slowly through water than in air and a few other things.
Counter clockwise (anticlockwise for my brothers down under
) relative to the North Star is what he established.
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OK so in your mind your fanciful world you believe yourself to be on a earth that is rotating at 1000 mph, counter-clockwise (Northpole), so now do a 180 degree turn and go in the other direction, imagine yourself, or even do this experiment yourself on a treadmill, OK the treadmill is not going 1000 mph hour, but it will do, so you turn round and go in a clockwise direction, and what happens?????
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