KILLINGS OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS BY ISRAELI FORCES

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Drett

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In the amnesty report on the last lot of killing by the ADF on the Palestinian people. This quote summarises the general position of Israel.

“I want aggressiveness – if there’s someone
suspicious on the upper floor of a house, we’ll
shell it. If we have suspicions about a house, we’ll
take it down… There will be no hesitation
Nobody will deliberate – let the mistakes be over
their lives, not ours.”
An Israeli company commander in a security briefing to soldiers during Operation “Cast Lead”.11

While the world allow Israel to continue to commit war crimes. They will do so deliberately, without hesitation.

An example of a human shield being blown up .

Three children from the al-Astal family – Abderrabbo, eight, his brother Muhammad, 11, and
their cousin Abd-al-Sattar, also 11 – were killed by a missile launched by a drone on 2
January 2009 at 2pm in al-Qarara, north-east of Khan Yunis, in southern Gaza. The children
had been collecting sugar cane and playing a few hundred metres from their home. Residents
of houses across the road from where the children were killed told Amnesty International that
the area was quiet except for a drone which was hovering overhead: “There are drones flying
overhead all the time so one doesn’t think anything of it. Then all of a sudden it fired a
missile which hit the children. We rushed over to them; they were in pieces and horribly
burned; I will never forget the sight.”
The spot where the children were killed was on the corner of a dirt road and a main road,
near a field but away from the vegetation. Hence it would have been apparent from the air
that the three were children.

So when you have no checks or balances in place then a people like this;

israeli_army_tshirts.jpg

that operates a drone or fires missiles and kill women and children freely in the hundreds. Can you at least understand that ?
 
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biscuit

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In the amnesty report on the last lot of killing by the ADF on the Palestinian people. This quote summarises the general position of Israel.

“I want aggressiveness – if there’s someone
suspicious on the upper floor of a house, we’ll
shell it. If we have suspicions about a house, we’ll
take it down… There will be no hesitation
Nobody will deliberate – let the mistakes be over
their lives, not ours.”
An Israeli company commander in a security briefing to soldiers during Operation “Cast Lead”.11

While the world allow Israel to continue to commit war crimes. They will do so deliberately, without hesitation.

An example of a human shield being blown up .

Three children from the al-Astal family – Abderrabbo, eight, his brother Muhammad, 11, and
their cousin Abd-al-Sattar, also 11 – were killed by a missile launched by a drone on 2
January 2009 at 2pm in al-Qarara, north-east of Khan Yunis, in southern Gaza. The children
had been collecting sugar cane and playing a few hundred metres from their home. Residents
of houses across the road from where the children were killed told Amnesty International that
the area was quiet except for a drone which was hovering overhead: “There are drones flying
overhead all the time so one doesn’t think anything of it. Then all of a sudden it fired a
missile which hit the children. We rushed over to them; they were in pieces and horribly
burned; I will never forget the sight.”
The spot where the children were killed was on the corner of a dirt road and a main road,
near a field but away from the vegetation. Hence it would have been apparent from the air
that the three were children.

So when you have no checks or balances in place then a people like this;

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that operates a drone or fires missiles and kill women and children freely in the hundreds. Can you at least understand that ?

Simple solution: stop firing rockets inside of Israel
 
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Yer wonderful righteous Hamas and their great missiles are killing palestinians....literally.

Please show me the proof that Israel is hiding missiles in schools....like Hamas.

Hamas gets Gaza, what do they do? Create access to munitions through Gaza from Egypt to shoot them at Israel.

Yep, nice guys, nice guys.
 
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Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert

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In the amnesty report on the last lot of killing by the ADF on the Palestinian people. This quote summarises the general position of Israel.

“I want aggressiveness – if there’s someone
suspicious on the upper floor of a house, we’ll
shell it. If we have suspicions about a house, we’ll
take it down… There will be no hesitation
Nobody will deliberate – let the mistakes be over
their lives, not ours.”
An Israeli company commander in a security briefing to soldiers during Operation “Cast Lead”.11

While the world allow Israel to continue to commit war crimes. They will do so deliberately, without hesitation.

An example of a human shield being blown up .

Three children from the al-Astal family – Abderrabbo, eight, his brother Muhammad, 11, and
their cousin Abd-al-Sattar, also 11 – were killed by a missile launched by a drone on 2
January 2009 at 2pm in al-Qarara, north-east of Khan Yunis, in southern Gaza. The children
had been collecting sugar cane and playing a few hundred metres from their home. Residents
of houses across the road from where the children were killed told Amnesty International that
the area was quiet except for a drone which was hovering overhead: “There are drones flying
overhead all the time so one doesn’t think anything of it. Then all of a sudden it fired a
missile which hit the children. We rushed over to them; they were in pieces and horribly
burned; I will never forget the sight.”
The spot where the children were killed was on the corner of a dirt road and a main road,
near a field but away from the vegetation. Hence it would have been apparent from the air
that the three were children.

So when you have no checks or balances in place then a people like this;

View attachment 84561

that operates a drone or fires missiles and kill women and children freely in the hundreds. Can you at least understand that ?
I agree Drett, Christians need to stand up against Israeli brutality otherwise we are just defaming Christ's name and giving Atheists fodder to say garbage like "religion is the cause of wars"

There were two Israeli soldiers caught sniping Palestinian children and so the Israeli media started the rumor that Hamas is using civilians as human shields to cover their butts.
 

Agricola

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Drett is obvioulsy stuck in a time warp with images and articles from 2009.

So when you have no checks or balances in place then a people like this;

that operates a drone or fires missiles and kill women and children freely in the hundreds. Can you at least understand that ?
I have said all along that there will be problems when you have compulsory national service for everyone. YEs some incidents occour, but the difference is the IDF investigate it and soldiers are prosecuted in courts for their illegal actions.

Compare that to Hamas where they do not care who dies, where their policy is just kill Jews and force Palestinian civilians to die for propaganda.
 

Atwood

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In the amnesty report on the last lot of killing by the ADF on the Palestinian people.
Drett, would you mind telling me who is Jesus in your opinion?

and if you died tonight where would you go, and how do you know?

If you found yourself at the Pearly Gates & asked why you should be allowed to enter, what would you say?
 

Drett

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Simple solution: stop firing rockets inside of Israel
Would you have told the Indians to stop shooting arrows and everything will be ok. Perhaps you would tell someone being raped not to fight back and it will soon all end.

With ignorant statements such as these, no wonder Alex Awad the pastor of East Jerusalem church stated Western Christians have no idea what is going on in Gaza.

"The Christians in the west, most of them, they don't know the realities here. They don't know who is occupying who, who is oppressing who, who is confiscating whose land, who is building walls to try and separate people from one another,"

Palestinian Christian: Western Christians Don't Understand Gaza/Israeli Conflict

Yes I know, some of you know better than Alex. Amazing how closed a mind can get.

Not a week has passed without arson or defacement of a church, mosque or Palestinian property in a wave of fanaticism against the Palestinian citizens of Israel.

How Israel Targets Its Palestinian Christian Citizens

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean
 

PennEd

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Would you have told the Indians to stop shooting arrows and everything will be ok. Perhaps you would tell someone being raped not to fight back and it will soon all end.

With ignorant statements such as these, no wonder Alex Awad the pastor of East Jerusalem church stated Western Christians have no idea what is going on in Gaza.

"The Christians in the west, most of them, they don't know the realities here. They don't know who is occupying who, who is oppressing who, who is confiscating whose land, who is building walls to try and separate people from one another,"

Palestinian Christian: Western Christians Don't Understand Gaza/Israeli Conflict

Yes I know, some of you know better than Alex. Amazing how closed a mind can get.

Not a week has passed without arson or defacement of a church, mosque or Palestinian property in a wave of fanaticism against the Palestinian citizens of Israel.

How Israel Targets Its Palestinian Christian Citizens

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean


Hey Drett!! When last I left you I was busy chronicling (but could NEVER keep up) with the DAILY WORLDWIDE atricities committed in the name of muhammed, allah, and islam. Could you please direct me to the thread you started condemning these muslims? No? Hmmm, imagine that. It's almost like extreme hypocrisy! Nah a muslim couldn't be an extreme hypocrite! My mistake.

http://rt.com/news/166436-isis-execution-video-iraq/















 

Drett

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Stop derailing threads you do not like. If you are not interested in the plight of all Palestinians including Christians then go start your own thread. You can link all the unsubstantiated weasels news links you like.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/283275_Wingnuts_of_Weasel_Zippers_cal

Hey Drett!! When last I left you I was busy chronicling (but could NEVER keep up) with the DAILY WORLDWIDE atricities committed in the name of muhammed, allah, and islam. Could you please direct me to the thread you started condemning these muslims? No? Hmmm, imagine that. It's almost like extreme hypocrisy! Nah a muslim couldn't be an extreme hypocrite! My mistake.

http://rt.com/news/166436-isis-execution-video-iraq/















 
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Quite a sizeable number of respondents on this website show a partisan fanaticism, waging an auxiliary conflict of ideas which compound the physical combat; it is an endless continuation of an inherently hypocritical ideology ostensibly prevalent among the Christian 'elite'. A number of you fancy armistice built on obstinate terms, demanding Palestine's immediate discontinuation of military force, yet you lay no such burden of responsibility on Israel's shoulders.

That malevolent disregard for innocent lives exists at all compels me to both deep empathy and symbiotic shame. Inhumanity and suffering is to me a concern exceeding factionalism's importance, always, yet here I see disparity is a value held higher than simple human compassion.

Disgraceful.
 
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biscuit

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Would you have told the Indians to stop shooting arrows and everything will be ok. Perhaps you would tell someone being raped not to fight back and it will soon all end.

With ignorant statements such as these, no wonder Alex Awad the pastor of East Jerusalem church stated Western Christians have no idea what is going on in Gaza.

"The Christians in the west, most of them, they don't know the realities here. They don't know who is occupying who, who is oppressing who, who is confiscating whose land, who is building walls to try and separate people from one another,"

Palestinian Christian: Western Christians Don't Understand Gaza/Israeli Conflict

Yes I know, some of you know better than Alex. Amazing how closed a mind can get.

Not a week has passed without arson or defacement of a church, mosque or Palestinian property in a wave of fanaticism against the Palestinian citizens of Israel.

How Israel Targets Its Palestinian Christian Citizens

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean


"And I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." (Genesis 12:3)
 

PennEd

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Stop derailing threads you do not like. If you are not interested in the plight of all Palestinians including Christians then go start your own thread. You can link all the unsubstantiated weasels news links you like.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/283275_Wingnuts_of_Weasel_Zippers_cal
So you are denying those that are worshiping the moon god allah are exterminating Christians? How can you lie to yourself so easily?
Iraq crisis: End 'very near' for Christianity after Isis takeover, says Bishop - Middle East - World - The Independent
 

Drett

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Agricola

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Sorry I have a policy of not answering trolls that hijack threads.
Not really avoiding the question!

Seriously Drett, you can fool most people, but not all of them. THere will never be cease to hostilities even if the so called Palestinians get thier own nation.

When you talk of "Stolen Land", you really mean the whole of Israel, something which is not made that clear, but that is what it is.

Palestinians have always been used as human shields, its not new, dead babies make good propaganda. What I want to know is how many dead babies and children are a result of the hundreds of mis-fired Hamas rockets which have fallen within Gaza itself.

I see the truth of the situation and unfortunately for you, you will never convince me to side with the evil of Hamas.
 

PennEd

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Sorry I have a policy of not answering trolls that hijack threads.

You must be used to the clock-work orange society we live in where men call evil good and good evil, but here in Truthville, a muslim constantly infiltrating a Christian website IS by definition THE TROLL!

Now how about quit dancing around the question and direct us to the thread you started condemning allah worshipers who are slaughtering daily, especially Christians!
 
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You must be used to the clock-work orange society we live in where men call evil good and good evil, but here in Truthville, a muslim constantly infiltrating a Christian website IS by definition THE TROLL!

Now how about quit dancing around the question and direct us to the thread you started condemning allah worshipers who are slaughtering daily, especially Christians!
You throw out an unfounded accusation purposed to discredit Drett. By questioning his religious affiliation, those concurrent with your opinions about Israel might further demonize Palestine and wholly discard anything in opposition, particularly if Drett were to be the one opposing. By putting Drett in the Muslim camp and instigating an emotional response via the representation of Christian deaths at the hands of Muslims you not only completely undermine the plight of Muslim people but you wrongly assume that Drett considers the deaths of Christians to be morally justified, when in fact Drett is not condoning killing of any kind, but rather appealing to people to recognize the unjustness of killing on all fronts and to no longer hold partisan views of the Israel-Palestine conflict. He is not condoning any killing, he is pleading with you all to stop justifying Israel and condemning Palestine. All the killing is condemnable, and blame rests upon all those who condone it.

Backing the murder of some innocents over others goes beyond allegiance to a side and into the realm of disregard for common humanity.

That's what he's trying to say.
 
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I don't know how to make this more clear but Israel is not the palestinian's homeland.

They are not from there.

Never lived there until being forced into the region by their loving arab neighbors to create tensions in Israel.

So the comparison to native americans is moot.

By the way EVERY nation on earth was built on conquest, throwing out the conquored people aspect of who owns land is hypocritical and again, moot.