Israel still god's people?

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Has anyone noticed that the Muslims hide there weapons in schools and do it on purpose. They could care less about their children.
 
Kerry said:
Has anyone noticed that the Muslims hide there weapons in schools and do it on purpose. They could care less about their children.
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Everybody probably knows this...except those who have been brainwashed by the "biased" media. Hamas even admitted that they use their women and children as human shields. They are murderers...they kill their own people and blame Israel. They lie to make the news.
 
Yes they do, but people still think that they are our christian brothers. What a shame. But, then again why not we kill our babies.
 
Ukorin said:
How does passive/neutral attitude become "antisemitic"? I am trying not to be offended, because I actually support several Holy Land missionary families, and 2 US based Jewish evangelism groups.

I did not say "Israel has no right to defend itself",
I am just saying that it is their business, not some "holy war" that we must aid.

Antisemitism would be saying that I have something against the people, which I don't.

I am saying that the rest have gone too far in their Zionism.
Unless you are an Amillenialist, then there is no doctrinal reason to be building physical nations for God in this dispensation.
Wrong focus! Bad stewardship. A huge distraction for most Christians.
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Don't you mean 'Postmillennialist'?
 
Good night y'all amen. Support and pray for Israel it's the best thing we can do other than honor the cross, amen and good night.
 
All hail the King of the Jews or face all this hell we face. Hail damages the cars when it falls from the sky. Hell damages our lives when we fall. Hell in all around the children of disobedience. Fall on your knees and give glory to God in heaven hail the to the King Jesus.
 
Dalisa said:
Im asking this because I cant believe that people who
go to war and kill innocent people, can still be god's people.
What is happening in Gaza is not humane.
And innocent people are paying the price.
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1. Have you ever called anyone foolish, stupid or even worthless?
2. If your neighbor knowingly and even when you are watching, throw things into your house everyday, what will you do?
3. What if they do not listen to you nor pay any attention to your reminders?
4. What if you seek help from your other neighbors even those who are in authority, who have watched this from the beginning and know it is happening and also know who is truly the one vengeful but they remain silent and ignorant?
5. What if it is GOD's will?

As it is written in Jonah 4;9, as speaking to you now;

"Do you do well to be angry for that plant."

verse 10;

"You pity the plant, for which you did not labor, nor did you make it grow, which came into being in a night and perished in a night."

verse 11;

"And should not I pity Nineveh(blind and deaf Israel to the Salvation of GOD through CHRIST), that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons, who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?"

 
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If the question comes down to justice, then I am on Israel's side in this current battle (hopefully soon over),
but the question was about God's People, not about justice.
Hamas is a terrorist group. Israel is a legitimate government. Terrorists require to be brought to justice.

This call for justice isn't unconditionally in favor of Israel. It is specific.
I fear for you are deceived as I had been since youth, thinking that God desires our unconditional support for that nation and it's government.
 
No they are not- the bible even says so...

John 1:11 He came to that which was his own, but his own (people) did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

Anyone can become a christian, no matter what their nationality, but only christians are God's people nowadays.
 
crossnote said:
JEW BY NATURE...
Galatians 2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
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Read that in context brother and it's use. He was a Jew by "nature" because that was he was born into, just like Peter, James, etc. Again, being Jew is not a race...never was.
 
According to Apostle John, 'Even Judas Iscariot pretended to care for the poor, but he was a thief who steals from JESUS's moneybag, that which was for the poor'.

Today we are the ambassadors, in knowledge faith and it's Good deeds, rooted from the Holy Bible teachings and instructions, representing the Kingdom of Heaven.

Are we not behaving the same majoritively, as ignorant or knowing, an impersonators of Judas, mind on the flesh and works according to things of the flesh?

Are we not the 'hypocrites', "who strain out a small fly for GOD and yet swallow a camel".

We are rich and while others remain helplessly and hopelessly poor. According to the spiritual teachings and wisdom of the HOLY SPIRIT, who is actually the rich and poor here?

"We have so much to tongue off, using one of the non-tameable evil member of the body but have less to hand out Good deeds."

"Accumulators of troubles for themselves, for on judgement day."
 
Linda70 said:
So you are saying that what Paul wrote about himself, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in Philippians 3 isn't true? Wow! If he wasn't truthful about himself, then why believe ANYTHING he wrote in all the church epistles?

Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Philippians 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Philippians 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Philippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
Philippians 3:7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Philippians 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

So tell us jahsoul, do you believe that the Bible is the inerrant and infallible Word of God?

God used JEWS to pen His Word:

Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Romans 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
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You do know Jew is nowhere in the scripture that you gave me Ms. Linda. I also don't know if you saw my response to crossnote, showing that Paul was indeed a Jew, by religion alone.
 
Ukorin said:
How does passive/neutral attitude become "antisemitic"? I am trying not to be offended, because I actually support several Holy Land missionary families, and 2 US based Jewish evangelism groups.

I did not say "Israel has no right to defend itself",
I am just saying that it is their business, not some "holy war" that we must aid.

Antisemitism would be saying that I have something against the people, which I don't.

I am saying that the rest have gone too far in their Zionism.
Unless you are an Amillenialist, then there is no doctrinal reason to be building physical nations for God in this dispensation.
Wrong focus! Bad stewardship. A huge distraction for most Christians.
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Truth is, with most folks on here hate towards Muslims, calling someone anti semetic is like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
jahsoul said:
Truth is, with most folks on here hate towards Muslims, calling someone anti semetic is like the pot calling the kettle black.
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Honestly, not that long ago I would have said the same things to anyone who said what I said.
We are taught in church to support Israel without question, and that Israel is still God's Chosen nation on earth, and that it is fulfilling prophecy continually.

In the past 2 months I have gone from a Dispensational Zionist, to a Traditional Zionist,
and in the past week I have shifted further, to a non-Zionist.

I have been going through the minor prophets(and their cross-notes/parallels) in my daily reading, and have been led to this position.
The time for Zionism is in the past and in the future, but not for the Church Age.

When America passes from it's golden age, and wonders "why did God not bless us, even when we supported His nation"? Then they might realize the error in their doctrine.

Why is it that this nation of wickedness, preaching adultery to the world through it's twisted ministry of Hollywood, condoning sin in it's laws, encouraging the destruction of marriages with divorce, tainting the youth with it's mandatory atheistic school curriculum,
This is the nation that unconditionally supports and arms Israel?

It all reeks of Babylon, and apostasy. I will not be deceived by it any longer.
 
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The Jews are still God's people, in the historical sense. As Paul says, the benefits of being a Jew are many. But the eternal reality has always been - the true children of Abraham have not been the physical descendants, but the children of the promise.

As for how could God could accept people with blood on their hands, I could equally ask how God could accept ANYONE. NO ONE is deserving of God's favour, and indeed everyone is worthy of being separated from the presence of God forever. But he is gracious and kind, and is patient, desiring that none would be lost. The solution is, and always has been, only resting on God's good and gracious provision in Christ. This is as true for the Jew as it is for the Palestinian as it is for the Australian as it is for the American.
 
fredjames said:
1. Have you ever called anyone foolish, stupid or even worthless?
2. If your neighbor knowingly and even when you are watching, throw things into your house everyday, what will you do?
3. What if they do not listen to you nor pay any attention to your reminders?
4. What if you seek help from your other neighbors even those who are in authority, who have watched this from the beginning and know it is happening and also know who is truly the one vengeful but they remain silent and ignorant?
5. What if it is GOD's will?

As it is written in Jonah 4;9, as speaking to you now;

"Do you do well to be angry for that plant."

verse 10;

"You pity the plant, for which you did not labor, nor did you make it grow, which came into being in a night and perished in a night."

verse 11;

"And should not I pity Nineveh(blind and deaf Israel to the Salvation of GOD through CHRIST), that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons, who do not know their right hand from their left, and also much cattle?"
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Biblically, as Kingdom people and citizens of Heaven and surjourners here on earth, how do we distinguish this matter for those who are growing in sound doctrine knowledge? Who is the innocent and who is guilty? (Matured Bible Holy Scripture gifted brethren may assist in quote, please, for i am guided to be plain and simple in 'words of life')

By the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, In Old Testament Biblical History, GOD promised to give Abraham and his household land to dwelling in. That conquest was accomplished through from Joshua to King David. Please look at the map in either the beginning of or the end of the Bible page and you will see all the land that Israel posses by the promise of GOD to Abraham?

Please compare with the land they occupy today.
 
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