Crimes of the Elite Against Children
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Let's talk about crimes in western society where we both live. We all already know all the bad things happen in 2nd and 3rd world countries; now, let's look at the bad things happening in western civilizations to our own neighbors. The Bible and the Lord charge Christians to love their neighbors. If you aren't willing to investigate claims of abuse against your own neighbors, you can't honestly claim to love those people being trafficked in North Korea, the abused in China, female abuse and circumcision in the Middle East, and the crimes the news will report in the U.S. You are repeating news that everyone already has heard; I'm talking about something that most people haven't yet heard and which many people reject, often flippantly, because they would rather not believe. You are defending people you don't know rather than reading what is being reported against them. If Pope Francis had such clean hands, why is the international court after him. You seem to think that religion is about convincing others about your beliefs. You can choose to disbelieve everything I've written here and choose not to look into it for yourself; but the thing is God feels differently about things. We all will give an account before Him for how we followed Him and, in turn, loved our neighbors. Perhaps you should read 1Cor. 13 again and then convince yourself that you fit the type of Christian that Jesus approves.
The biggest irony, ThomistColin, is that what I am reporting here will surface for all society to see. Years ago, when some people talked about the Mafia and organized crime, the FBI denied it; sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests, who would believe; Catholic nuns 'dealing babies' was a really bad joke, but then it became public knowledge. Some people are quick to shoot down new ideas, concepts, and reports... but then it surfaces and I guess they have no choice but to believe. Jesus said that everything done in the dark will be brought into the light; that's just the way it works. I'd rather believe the evidence that I see before it presents itself to the whole world. I mentioned in a post that I have been around these kinds of people, but people who don't want to believe won't believe. No one will ask me what I mean; they have chosen not to believe. It's important for you to know that I'm not trying to convince anyone nor trying to convince you. We will all be judged on the basis of our individual obedience to God in Heaven made evident by our love (concern) for our neighbors on earth. And you know that everyone is your neighbor. Give it time; all of what I've reported (and more) will become public knowledge.
Talk is cheap. It's easiest to deny what you choose to deny, live the way you want, and just wait for all the facts to surface. Truth never hides itself; people, beliefs, and circumstances hide it. But because everything (even lies) is founded on truth, truth will always surface in the end. Just wait for it.
Lol. Oh, I know, Stephen. I've learned a thing or a hundred about Christians, and one of those is that if a Christian wants to argue, debate, or mock something someone says or offers, the best thing to do is just repeat the same thing you said over and over (all my threads and posts follow this as you might notice). If someone rejects a nickel from you, why offer them a dollar? Keep offering them the same nickel as long as they keep saying no (it's the funniest but purest display of disdain); the joke is on them, but they don't know it. They are busy sharing how angry or upset they are with whatever it is you posted.
I stated that I've known these kinds of people, but because the nay-sayers are bent on saying no and turning a blind eye, none of them asked me about my own story. They don't want to know the truth nor can they handle it, so all I offer them is facts, and sometimes they still can't stomach those. I've always found that the people who've most opposed what I've written ('opposed' here meaning they personally disliked and so opposed it) are people who believe they are very smart in Biblical things or Biblical knowledge. One of them boasted that he is a teacher on one of my threads (the thread: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/90860-money-coffee-selfish-christians.html). Teacher, theologian, or angel from Heaven, it doesn't take me long reading to know how much a intelligence a person lacks who claims to be smart.
As for secret societies, the mark of the beast, and the Queen, again, I just keep repeating the same thing till some realize that just as they won't be convinced by what I'm saying, neither will I be convinced by what they are saying. As for nay-sayers, you may want to note that in basically every Christian congregation and gathering (websites and forums included), wolves are planted or sent to detract from the Gospel, cause division, promote lies, etc. Some are sent by the Catholic church (Vatican), some by satanist groups and societies, etc. The story of Alberto Rivera is another one that nay-sayers will attack for various reasons. He was a Jesuit priest who defected from the Vatican/Catholic churh and shared with Christian churches how the Vatican sends their workers into Christian circles as wolves to infiltrate, etc. Rivera had many attempts on his life by the Jesuits; he was finally killed but not before he got the story out: "Dr. Alberto Rivera" Ex Jesuit Father Fr. Priest. As for me, "seeing is believing". I share things not to convince but to share; I know a time is coming when everyone will see, and there will be no discussion then. Many people will take the mark; they're primed for deception because of their selfish preferences to believe and disbelieve as they see fit. But we all will give an account when we stand before God, not for what we believed or didn't believe but how we obeyed Him and how we loved our neighbors.
What shall we investigate then Allin? Is this the sign of the ZOG conspiracy? A conspiracy that was created to heighten the hatred of the Jews? Or is it more likely that it isn't Jews who rule the world, but only a small group of Jews and there friends, Bilderberger? Or maybe its a bunch of homosexual pedophile priests who with the Vatican are stealing the world's children? I wonder if that belief is based on hate and overreaction.
You want to know why I simply ignore and denounce your conspiracy. Because its rhetoric, rhetoric that has been heard before. It is the rhetoric of hate. Hate of people, or simply of persons, it does not matter. Because you have forgotten the greatest teaching of our Lord, love thy neighbor. Do you know what that means? Because guess what, Pope Francis, Queen Elizabeth, and George W. Bush are your neighbor. But you have forgotten that, because you have even forgotten that these are humans.
Why do you think there are pride parades? Because homosexuals need to convince themselves that the world is wrong. If the world was right, if it were sin, then they fear that they would hate themselves. That's why. You see the world doesn't see that part of it. They don't see the humanity. For the same reasons pedophiles band together and work together. Remember that those in the dark love the dark, for they fear the light exposing who they are. But we as Christians have learned that nothing hidden in the darkness is beyond compassion, mercy, and love.
You see, the world has done two things to you. Allowed you to forget the sufferings of those in the clutches of the evil one. But almost as worse, it has allowed you to view famous people from a distance, and from that distance they have become objects instead of people. Pope Francis was once a child himself, who played with toys and cried when his mother left the room because he couldn't find her. Queen Elizabeth II was once a teenager, and her years of being a teenager were not filled with boyfriends and music, but bombs and blood. George W. Bush was an alcoholic, read his autobiography. How dare you forget. HOW DARE YOU FORGET WHAT IT IS TO BE HUMAN! You want to treat men like demons, as if you have knowledge that no one else has! None of us know the life of the other, the things hidden. Only God! Only God knows! So take your face out of the books of heathen writers who don't realize that this is a world of men and women lost in suffering and chains, and start looking with compassion.
You want to know why I simply ignore and denounce your conspiracy. Because its rhetoric, rhetoric that has been heard before. It is the rhetoric of hate. Hate of people, or simply of persons, it does not matter. Because you have forgotten the greatest teaching of our Lord, love thy neighbor. Do you know what that means? Because guess what, Pope Francis, Queen Elizabeth, and George W. Bush are your neighbor. But you have forgotten that, because you have even forgotten that these are humans.
Why do you think there are pride parades? Because homosexuals need to convince themselves that the world is wrong. If the world was right, if it were sin, then they fear that they would hate themselves. That's why. You see the world doesn't see that part of it. They don't see the humanity. For the same reasons pedophiles band together and work together. Remember that those in the dark love the dark, for they fear the light exposing who they are. But we as Christians have learned that nothing hidden in the darkness is beyond compassion, mercy, and love.
You see, the world has done two things to you. Allowed you to forget the sufferings of those in the clutches of the evil one. But almost as worse, it has allowed you to view famous people from a distance, and from that distance they have become objects instead of people. Pope Francis was once a child himself, who played with toys and cried when his mother left the room because he couldn't find her. Queen Elizabeth II was once a teenager, and her years of being a teenager were not filled with boyfriends and music, but bombs and blood. George W. Bush was an alcoholic, read his autobiography. How dare you forget. HOW DARE YOU FORGET WHAT IT IS TO BE HUMAN! You want to treat men like demons, as if you have knowledge that no one else has! None of us know the life of the other, the things hidden. Only God! Only God knows! So take your face out of the books of heathen writers who don't realize that this is a world of men and women lost in suffering and chains, and start looking with compassion.
Sorry but I only read that far as I don't have time for nay-sayers who don't do research. Do your research. Did you notice that I keep telling you the same thing? (In case you forgot, it's 'do your research'.) You aren't going to draw me into a debate; I will keep repeating the same thing and more people will be reading this thread as a result (in case you didn't notice that). I know you've secured your stance, so there's nothing to talk about. I hope your posting and my responding only serves to open more eyes-- the eyes of those who aren't 'too smart' to believe the truth. We only have two commandments to obey: love God and love others. There's nothing to discuss beyond that. And read the link to Alberto Rivera-- his story. You might appreciate it.
On Pope Francis (or Jorge Mario Bergoglio) trafficking children and the world of child traffic in the Vatican-Catholic church, especially among the Jesuits:
"The very fact that [Francis] is a Jesuit... is very important when this was being talked about among the judges and others in Europe; because the Jesusits, of course, have been at the center of genocide and all of these crimes for at least four hundred years, and [Francis] himself has a whole very sordid track record when it comes to child trafficking. And we know this because recently, we've discovered that a former member... has inside information on the specific activity of [Francis] when it had to do with trafficking the children of political prisoners in Argentina which was a common practice of the Catholic church..."
[video=youtube;V9ljEp3YoyQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ljEp3YoyQ[/video]
"The very fact that [Francis] is a Jesuit... is very important when this was being talked about among the judges and others in Europe; because the Jesusits, of course, have been at the center of genocide and all of these crimes for at least four hundred years, and [Francis] himself has a whole very sordid track record when it comes to child trafficking. And we know this because recently, we've discovered that a former member... has inside information on the specific activity of [Francis] when it had to do with trafficking the children of political prisoners in Argentina which was a common practice of the Catholic church..."
[video=youtube;V9ljEp3YoyQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ljEp3YoyQ[/video]
Crimes of the elite: child rape, torture, and abuse from Queen Elizabeth to George H.W. Bush:
1. Queen Elizabeth: More recently, from this past March, the UK High Court Justice Fulford, a long time advisor to Queen Elizabeth, was named as a co-defendant along with Pope Francis, in international court proceedings looking into their involvement in cleric child abuse, trafficking rings and evidence cover ups. Judge Fulford threw out 22,000 pieces of evidence in a 2011 Hague ICC International court that implicated the former Pope Joseph Ratzinger to child rapists. This same Brussels international court issued arrest warrants on Queen Elizabeth and former Pope Joseph Ratzinger after finding them guilty, along with 38 other global elites, in the rape, torture and murder of over 50,000 missing Canadian indigent children. Did you know that Queen Elizabeth was actually convicted on February 28, 2013 in the disappearance of ten native children from the British Columbia Catholic Kamloops residential school on October 10, 1964? Pope Ratzinger resigned from office that same day on February 28, 2013. So, how does the Queen retain her title and stay out of prison? Pope Francis’, Pope Benedict’s and Queen Elizabeth’s use of a Vatican agreement called “Crimen Sollicitationas” prevented release of information to legal authorities for prosecution of crimes against an estimated millions of priest child abuse victims.
2. H.W. Bush: Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald reported, on June 29 1989, the Washington Times’reported that a Washington D.C. prostitution ring that had intimate connections with the White House all the way up to President George H.W. Bush. Male prostitutes had been given access to the White House and the article also cited evidence in which minors were abducted for use in child sex trafficking and were pimped out to the elite. The claims were dismissed by authorities as “fantasy”, however, former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp later investigated the claims and was horrified to learn that they were indeed legitimate and George H. W. Bush was implicated in DeCamp’s investigation. In July 1990, a Nebraska Grand Jury was convened to hear allegations that Lawrence King Jr., then manager of the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union and a rising Republican Party star, along with prominent Washington lobbyists, had set up a child prostitution ring in which minors were transported around the country and forced to have sex with King, other top officials, and according to victims who some allege they were later harassed into recanting the direct involvement of then-Vice-President Bush. On two occasions, I interviewed Nick Bryant, author of the book entitled The Franklin Scandal, in which he implicated Lawrence King Jr. in child sex trafficking. Bryant, too, implicated George H. W. Bush as being part of the network of the elite using child sex slaves. Amazingly, King was invited to sing the national anthem at the 1984 Republican convention in Dallas. The elder Bush repeatedly promoted King, throughout the ’80s was described as a GOP high-roller.
(http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/05/19/prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-and-pappy-bush-are-leaders-in-child-trafficking/)
1. Queen Elizabeth: More recently, from this past March, the UK High Court Justice Fulford, a long time advisor to Queen Elizabeth, was named as a co-defendant along with Pope Francis, in international court proceedings looking into their involvement in cleric child abuse, trafficking rings and evidence cover ups. Judge Fulford threw out 22,000 pieces of evidence in a 2011 Hague ICC International court that implicated the former Pope Joseph Ratzinger to child rapists. This same Brussels international court issued arrest warrants on Queen Elizabeth and former Pope Joseph Ratzinger after finding them guilty, along with 38 other global elites, in the rape, torture and murder of over 50,000 missing Canadian indigent children. Did you know that Queen Elizabeth was actually convicted on February 28, 2013 in the disappearance of ten native children from the British Columbia Catholic Kamloops residential school on October 10, 1964? Pope Ratzinger resigned from office that same day on February 28, 2013. So, how does the Queen retain her title and stay out of prison? Pope Francis’, Pope Benedict’s and Queen Elizabeth’s use of a Vatican agreement called “Crimen Sollicitationas” prevented release of information to legal authorities for prosecution of crimes against an estimated millions of priest child abuse victims.
2. H.W. Bush: Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald reported, on June 29 1989, the Washington Times’reported that a Washington D.C. prostitution ring that had intimate connections with the White House all the way up to President George H.W. Bush. Male prostitutes had been given access to the White House and the article also cited evidence in which minors were abducted for use in child sex trafficking and were pimped out to the elite. The claims were dismissed by authorities as “fantasy”, however, former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp later investigated the claims and was horrified to learn that they were indeed legitimate and George H. W. Bush was implicated in DeCamp’s investigation. In July 1990, a Nebraska Grand Jury was convened to hear allegations that Lawrence King Jr., then manager of the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union and a rising Republican Party star, along with prominent Washington lobbyists, had set up a child prostitution ring in which minors were transported around the country and forced to have sex with King, other top officials, and according to victims who some allege they were later harassed into recanting the direct involvement of then-Vice-President Bush. On two occasions, I interviewed Nick Bryant, author of the book entitled The Franklin Scandal, in which he implicated Lawrence King Jr. in child sex trafficking. Bryant, too, implicated George H. W. Bush as being part of the network of the elite using child sex slaves. Amazingly, King was invited to sing the national anthem at the 1984 Republican convention in Dallas. The elder Bush repeatedly promoted King, throughout the ’80s was described as a GOP high-roller.
(http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/05/19/prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-and-pappy-bush-are-leaders-in-child-trafficking/)
And the Jesuits founded Islam, even though they didn't come into existence until over 700 years later. It is true that the Spanish Jesuits served the Spanish Inquisition ordered by Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand. Its also true that the Jesuits of France denounced the Inquisition along with the reigning Pope, and the Dominican, Franciscan, Benedictine, and Augustinian orders. The Jesuits were involved with the Sandinistas, and were all defrocked by Pope John Paul II for their actions.
Specifically, Pope Francis was never involved in the scandal of child trafficking or molestation. He was never accused as such by anyone until becoming Pope. The same was true of Cardinal Josef Ratzinger, whose reputation was more hurt by the fact that for two years of his life, he was a Hitler Youth. An organization that he vehemently opposed during the fall of Berlin, and he had been forced to join for the protection of his family. To this day, Pope Benedict XVI openly wishes he had the courage to denounce Hitler while a child.
Queen Elizabeth was found guilty not by the Hague or any recognized international court, but instead was "indicted" by a court in Brussels that claimed to have evidence against her, though she was not even informed of the trial until after the indictment (which is against the law in international law, unless the person sought is impossible to find or contact).
Your facts are based on the actions of a few, plus poor research. And from this you see a pattern that is incomprehensible and conspicuous at best. I looked at the articles you mentioned and even looked into this supposed advisor of the Queen and this Argentinian official. Your advisor is quoted through a third party source who cannot be documented. The Argentinian official is an open anti-cleric who was charged on one occassion of leaking information to the Venezualan Government, which has led some to believe that he is a communistic socialist who supports the idea of Marxian rebellion against both his state and religion in any form.
By the way, where are the victims? The problem is that a conspiracy this large cannot hold without exposing itself either through negligence or the impossiblity of hiding the victims. Your conspiracy is larger than the Holocaust and yet where are the victims?
Specifically, Pope Francis was never involved in the scandal of child trafficking or molestation. He was never accused as such by anyone until becoming Pope. The same was true of Cardinal Josef Ratzinger, whose reputation was more hurt by the fact that for two years of his life, he was a Hitler Youth. An organization that he vehemently opposed during the fall of Berlin, and he had been forced to join for the protection of his family. To this day, Pope Benedict XVI openly wishes he had the courage to denounce Hitler while a child.
Queen Elizabeth was found guilty not by the Hague or any recognized international court, but instead was "indicted" by a court in Brussels that claimed to have evidence against her, though she was not even informed of the trial until after the indictment (which is against the law in international law, unless the person sought is impossible to find or contact).
Your facts are based on the actions of a few, plus poor research. And from this you see a pattern that is incomprehensible and conspicuous at best. I looked at the articles you mentioned and even looked into this supposed advisor of the Queen and this Argentinian official. Your advisor is quoted through a third party source who cannot be documented. The Argentinian official is an open anti-cleric who was charged on one occassion of leaking information to the Venezualan Government, which has led some to believe that he is a communistic socialist who supports the idea of Marxian rebellion against both his state and religion in any form.
By the way, where are the victims? The problem is that a conspiracy this large cannot hold without exposing itself either through negligence or the impossiblity of hiding the victims. Your conspiracy is larger than the Holocaust and yet where are the victims?
Forgot to add your name, ThomistColin:
Honestly, that was as far as I got. I saw you on here yesterday, hanging out for at least one hour. If being human tells me anything at all, I know you were raking and plowing your mind to find out how to answer. Thing is that in school if a teacher gave you the answer, she wasn't asking for your twist on it. I have delivered what I was going to say, and that's it. Now, go do your research.
Honestly, that was as far as I got. I saw you on here yesterday, hanging out for at least one hour. If being human tells me anything at all, I know you were raking and plowing your mind to find out how to answer. Thing is that in school if a teacher gave you the answer, she wasn't asking for your twist on it. I have delivered what I was going to say, and that's it. Now, go do your research.
Long video but a good eyewitness story to corruption at the White House level concerning abused, sexually abused, and tortured children:
"On May 7, 1966 a 9 year old child named Cathy O'Brien was subjected to an occult ritual named "The Rite to Remain Silent". This is her own very shocking and eye-opening life story about her experience as a CIA MK-Ultra Whitehouse Pentagon level trauma-based Mind Control slave. She speaks out to expose those who abused, who go right up to presidents and congressmen and women and to give voice to the many mind control victims out there who can't think to speak out.
O'Brien claims to have been abused since she was a toddler by her own family. Forced to partake in satanic sadomasochistic child pornography movies produced for Gerald Ford, she was eventually sold to the CIA, which was looking for traumatized children for their mind-control program ... U.S. Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bill Clinton; Canadian Prime Ministers Pierre Trudeau and Brian Mulroney; Mexican President Miguel de la Madrid; Haitian dictator Baby Doc Duvalier; Panamanian President Manuel Noriega; and King Fahd of Saudi Arabia all sexually brutalized her. She recounts in graphic detail how the elder George Bush raped her thirteen year old daughter and how she was forced to have oral sex with Illuminati witch Hillary Clinton ... While being sodomized, whipped, bound and raped, O'Brien overheard the globalist elite planning a military coup in the United States and conspiring to usher in the satanic New World Order."
[video=youtube;FvEBmEo4IA0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvEBmEo4IA0[/video]
"On May 7, 1966 a 9 year old child named Cathy O'Brien was subjected to an occult ritual named "The Rite to Remain Silent". This is her own very shocking and eye-opening life story about her experience as a CIA MK-Ultra Whitehouse Pentagon level trauma-based Mind Control slave. She speaks out to expose those who abused, who go right up to presidents and congressmen and women and to give voice to the many mind control victims out there who can't think to speak out.
O'Brien claims to have been abused since she was a toddler by her own family. Forced to partake in satanic sadomasochistic child pornography movies produced for Gerald Ford, she was eventually sold to the CIA, which was looking for traumatized children for their mind-control program ... U.S. Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bill Clinton; Canadian Prime Ministers Pierre Trudeau and Brian Mulroney; Mexican President Miguel de la Madrid; Haitian dictator Baby Doc Duvalier; Panamanian President Manuel Noriega; and King Fahd of Saudi Arabia all sexually brutalized her. She recounts in graphic detail how the elder George Bush raped her thirteen year old daughter and how she was forced to have oral sex with Illuminati witch Hillary Clinton ... While being sodomized, whipped, bound and raped, O'Brien overheard the globalist elite planning a military coup in the United States and conspiring to usher in the satanic New World Order."
[video=youtube;FvEBmEo4IA0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvEBmEo4IA0[/video]
Okay, now I am convinced you are either a troll, insane, or of the Devil. Anyway I split it, you are a divisive person.
Not take my beliefs so seriously? Then pray tell what would I be? I'd be a bent man whose word has no meaning and whose faith is nothing. Allin, it is obvious you take your beliefs very seriously. Remember both the Christian and the Apostate believe what they say, but only one is right.
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... and since you're not a christian etc...
And that's the summary of the thing. I wasn't going to say it, but you did! Lol. One of my aunts is Catholic. I come from a Catholic family and was raised Catholic. En route to visit this particular Catholic aunt in March '98, I had an encounter with the Lord on the Amtrak train. The teenager who got on the Amtrak train in Baltimore was not the teenager who got off the Amtrak train a day later in Atlanta. When I got there, my aunt, who said she was a Christian (as some Catholics are apt to do), was gored to no end because of my very presence in her home and attacked me endlessly. But it had nothing to do with me; she always loved me before this, and she was my favorite aunt out of about twenty other aunts. Her issue was the Lord and His presence.
I started a job there in Atlanta, working mostly with Mexicans who were Catholic. Without adding to it, those two years ('98-'00) in Atlanta, the only type of people who had any issues with me were all Catholic. They didn't know why; they just did: I was a bad person and they were good people. Everyone else thought I was great, but these particular people thought I was conceited (the girls did, because I didn't flirt with them because they were married) and arrogant (my aunt). I could believe the Christians and everyone else who said I was a great guy; or I could believe the Catholics (just a handful by the way) who said I was fit to be condemned. It wasn't a difficult choice. I just couldn't fathom that that handful of all Catholics were right and the much greater number of people-- Christians and secular and other religions-- were all wrong.
Too bad there's no angel emoticon; that was a perfect place to stick one. 
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Here's Allinvalid's view of a Catholic:
But then he lives on planet crazy so...
'A catholic is an innocent babe that's ignorant of the fact that he's actually being devoured by Satan?'
Is that what you mean?
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No this is what I mean:
[video=youtube_share;wFNO2sSW-mU]http://youtu.be/wFNO2sSW-mU[/video]
[video=youtube_share;wFNO2sSW-mU]http://youtu.be/wFNO2sSW-mU[/video]
'A catholic is an innocent babe that's ignorant of the fact that he's actually being devoured by Satan?'
Is that what you mean?
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