And here is the rub. Did the word finish as scripture uses it mean destroy, the end, get rid of, do away with, etc. or did it mean make something even better and more wonderful, something good into something of true beauty?
If you keep Lev 15:22, how do you go about doing it?
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All that Jesus taught was of the old testament before His death. Should we set aside His teachings because (as He said) "it is finished?"
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Elin said:
chubbena said:
Let's try that with just another verse using this same Greek word G1096 :Elin said:
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be "set aside" in earth, as it is in heaven.
How true for some.
I wondered what you were asking, so I took a little time to look at Lev 15.
First, I would like to say that Jesus did not change the law, he fulfilled it. In short, he sacrificed himself so that you would not be bound to the Law for your Salvation. You have to realize that much of the Law was addressed to a huge group of people in exile. It was much like a refugee camp. God used it to keep his people safe.
Now with that in mind 15:22 addresses an issue that involved blood. Shed blood is a means of transmitting disease. God used 15:22 to prevent the transmission of diseases. Today God has provided a way to resolve this issue in many ways that provide much more safety than the details of Lev 15. It is not that the law no longer exist, it does. The way we observe it is different than it was in the wilderness. If you want to keep it as God expects you to today, practice the safety measures that he has provided since the time of Moses. I hope that this helps. Just remember Salvation is by Grace through Jesus.
Sorry you don't see "finish" as "accomplish," "become actualized" "complete," "fulfill," "bring to an end," "set aside."
If that was what he was talking about. . .or was he talking about his work of atonement?
In Heb 7:18-19, it is talking about the law which was useless to obtain righteousness.
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No one is saying righeousness and salvation is through the law God gave to Israel through Moses.
All I am saying is that fulfillment doesn't happen if one throws away the first work that is to be completed. It is like starting a project, and then setting the incomplete work aside, and then takes the final part that would complete the project and never installing it to the first work. If that were the case then there is nothing to fulfill, finish, complete, or put an end to the work. If it isn't all together, the plan that originated with all the proper parts, will never work as it was originally designed. Jesus is the creator of all things. This includes the Mosaic law. Colossians chapter 1
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Did she try to way her clothes and self as soon as possible after sitting in a chair that was sat on by a menstruating woman?
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chubbena
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Let's try again:
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be "accomplished" in earth, as it is in heaven. Makes sense.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be "become actualized" in earth, as it is in heaven. Make sense too.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be "complete" in earth, as it is in heaven. Make sense also.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be "fulfilled" in earth, as it is in heaven. Make much sense because it's exactly the translation in Matthew 5:17 in my bible.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be "brought to an end" in earth, as it is in heaven. Does one see the problem?
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be "set aside" in earth, as it is in heaven. Does one see the problem?
Does one see it's not brought to an end or set aside?
Make sense to me... I don't try to keep this law physically, myself... Sounded like some Christians did, and I was wondering how that worked for them... I think it'd be really hard outside of a tight community, like Israel in the wilderness...
While we've been over this before....
just because I can't do them all perfectly doesn't mean I should try to obey them anyway. But as always, if I'm doing them to earn salvation or right standing before God, you're right. I'd better do it all.
Fortunately, that's not the standard set by God when He gave the Law, nor is it a standard held by me.
How does walking in obedience to one of God's instructions take our faith off of Jesus' sacrifice?
Do you feel this same way whenever you do something God commands in the NT?
While I recognize that there was a certain element of tongue and cheek there, there is obviously a difference there between an instruction God gave in the Bible, and one that He didn't (nose-picking).
If you look back at the posts, I think you're notice that no one is saying that is "one of the most spiritually deep events in all of Scripture", just that it has a spiritually deep meaning. We can't cherry pick which commands we think have a spiritual message and which ones don't. As I've mentioned before, I sure hope Paul's command to cut off your hand if it causes you to sin has a spiritual message to it because if it doesn't, well
No one is typing or reading these messages anyway!
