The Shooting of Michael Brown

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raf

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Just a fyi...90% of african american voters vote for democrats, 95% voted for Obama....its a pretty easy stat to find.

The reason why this is a story, like so many others, is the race of the cop and the race of the man who died and how that has been manipulated into something it does not seem to be......

AGAIN!!!

How many times are these incidents going to be blown out of proportion before the idiot democrats and liberals figure this out???

I know, they won't because it does not fit into their preconceived view of the world, without any factual support.....

and what do you call making judgements due to race without facts?

Bingo. There is a clear cut example of racism going on with this story, and the media has once again proved its racist.
First of all give me the stats, also theres many black people complaining about obama especially black christians, I also remember black leaders in civil rights orginizations claiming he was an arab and not a real african american, and almost 70 percent of americas population is white. What youre saying is absurd youre acting like obama won because of black people only when in general black people dont vote nearly as much as white people. White people are the reason obama won. The only people who are manipulating the story are people like you no one is saying the cop is racist except people in the riots, I dont see CNN claiming the cop killed the kid because he was black. I only seen claims that there are racist cops in that area WHICH IS TRUE because I live here and I have talked to people who told me so and seen it myself. Its like youre only here to spread your political agenda, youre saying its liberals faults this happened, also assuming any black person is a democrat all you do is make stuff up dont you ever get tired of it? I guess theres no point in arguing if I said the sky looked blue you would probably just claim its red thats how some of you conservatives are argue about anything when theyre clearly wrong.
 

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There is a biblical principle called forgiveness.

Unfortunately fiorgiveness and victimhood are not compatible.

Forgive and stop being victims, take life on your own terms and stop blaming others, as many african americans have, and guess what?

Ya stop being a liberal bigot.

It ain't rocket science, well at least to conservatives its not
Have you heard of a hypocrite? All I hear you do is pretending to be a victim from liberals and democrats always patrolling the forums to harass us. If liberals are such bigots why are people like you the ones spending time to go out of your way to bug us.
 

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Before you listen to another word from this hate-monger understand that his country is 92% White 7% Asian and less than 1% Aboriginal. There are so few blacks in Australia that they don't even register as any percentage at all. It is conceivable that this race- baiter HAS NEVER EVEN MET A BLACK PERSON.
What are you talking about hes been talking about america not australia lol.
 

raf

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The cops face was bruised....

musta been when he tried to take his KKK hood off before he shot the black kid
stop making things up you sound silly.
 

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What are you talking about hes been talking about america not australia lol.
Look up over your head. Maybe you can see the point I was making floating around up there.
 
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I will say though. I've been watching the live feeds done by Vice News on Youtube. Seeing a Missouri State Trooper carrying what was probably an AR-15 while wearing military fatigues was scary. Our police should not be in military uniform. Swat uniforms? OK. Military Fatigues with Camo? NOPE!
The real problem in the Black community, coast-to-coast, is the lack of leadership for those who are elected to serve the community best interest. The majority of Black leaders show up just to receive a paycheck or further their future ambitions.

Another major problem within the Black community is the refusal by the overwhelming majority of residents not filing complaints against the PD for violations of civil rights & constitutional rights. The Justice Dept. will only investigate a police dept if there are numerous complaints. These PD know this and usually ignore the rights of the Black community.

Not all Black community are silent and there are those who have grassroot organizations who work with local & state leaders to combat police brutality. Denver is one of those cities where the Justice Dept. decided to investigate the Denver police dept. because of too many complaints. The Justice Dept. gave Denver an ultimatum after investigating the complaints, to either 'clean up the PD or it will intervene. Well, to make a long story short, the Denver PD got rid of 6 of its most notorious cops to prevent a mega lawsuit.

The Black community has to accept some responsibility for the bad relationships with its PD.
 

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I'm not a left-wing zealot, or a right-wing nut, I'm a Christian American. The entire incident was a tragedy regardless of how it happened. A young man is dead, and the police officer's life has been ruined.

I don't care who you are, what has happened since the incident is completely uncalled for. We are a nation of laws, and responsibilities. No one has the right to riot or loot any neighborhood. That's unacceptable. Every single person who has been involved in this mayhem must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If we take sides, that's fine as long as we allow due process. But if we fan the flames of the discord before the truth has been presented, we are as guilty as the person who throws the actual punch. Please! Put out the flames, don't throw any more gasoline on them.

I pray that the people of God in Ferguson will join together and use God's power to calm the city down. Join me and support them. We serve an awesome God, who answers the prayers of his people.
 
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I pray that the people of God in Ferguson will join together and use God's power to calm the city down. Join me and support them. We serve an awesome God, who answers the prayers of his people.

Great post Billyd !! Isn't it ironic that we have many Blacks & Whites at each other's throat, while the biggest threats are the terrorist cells presently here in this country ready to strike at any moment, and we are arguing & fighting like a bunch of 5 year olds in a sandbox. Unbelievable!!
 
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No you don't. That's something you've made up in your head. There is NO way I'm going to celebrate the death of someone unprepared to meet Christ. What I am going to do is investigate and if I find the facts warrant a different narrative that what the liberal MSM is portraying, go with the facts.

I hear a lot of you guys constantly bragging about how its good a thug like trayvon was killed and claiming he was a drug dealer and what not, all you guys do is make things up, or exaggerate them.
 
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I pray that the people of God in Ferguson will join together and use God's power to calm the city down. Join me and support them. We serve an awesome God, who answers the prayers of his people.

Great post Billyd !! Isn't it ironic that we have many Blacks & Whites at each other's throat, while the biggest threats are the terrorist cells presently here in this country ready to strike at any moment, and we are arguing & fighting like a bunch of 5 year olds in a sandbox. Unbelievable!!
Not with Martin Luther King's son inciting people.....IN CHURCH.
 
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Has anyone ever suggested Trayvon Martin deserved to die?

Nope. We just went on the facts given at trial which showed his drug use and violent behaviors. He was no hero.

To expose the bigotry and hatreds of any group or belief set IS christian....light and darkness. I....am not victim of liberalism, liberals are, and they prove it with every post and news story from them.

The liberal mindset OF victimhood has incited riots. Every bruise and destruction or loss of property is directly laid at their feet of fearmongering to further a corrupt ideology....

by the way, to make money.

Kinda sad any christian would support such a satanic principle.
 
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See: Black Americans As Victims of the Left - Discover the Networks

Progressive liberalism has NOT been kind to African-Americans as a whole. It would be difficult to find a more broken, dysfunctional, crime-ridden, poor performing demographic in America today than the African-American one.

A study conducted by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found that 72 percent of black children in the U.S. are raised by a single parent. Before Lyndon Johnson, about 70 percent of black children were born into a functioning nuclear family where both parents were married to each other.

The overall U.S. murder rate has been falling in recent years, but it is rising among blacks. Blacks constitute just under 14% of the population but commit murder at 7 to 8 times the white rate. In 1960, the rate of incarceration for black males per 100,000 was 1,313; by 2010, it had soared to 4,347 (see here).

And this is occurring despite the median black family income rising 80%, after being adjusted for inflation, since 1963 in a socio-political environment which as the influential criminal legal scholar William J. Stuntz pointed out:

“High rates of black violence in the late twentieth century are a matter of historical fact, not bigoted imagination,” wrote Mr. Stuntz. “The trends reached their peak not in the land of Jim Crow but in the more civilized North, and not in the age of segrega­tion but in the decades that saw the rise of civil rights for African Americans — and of African American control of city governments.”

In other words, liberals want to blame these outcomes on racial animus and “the system” but blacks have long been part of running that system. Black crime and incarceration rates spiked in the 1970s and ’80s in cities such as Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Washington under black mayors and black police chiefs. Some of the most violent cities in the United States today are run by blacks.

Black people are not shooting each other at these alarming rates in Chicago and other urban areas because of our gun laws or our drug laws or a criminal justice system that has it in for them. The problem is primarily cultural — self-destructive behaviors and attitudes all too common among the black underclass. The problem is black criminal behavior, which is one manifestation of a black pathology that ultimately stems from the breakdown of the black family and loss of God's normative morality. Liberals want to talk about what others should do for blacks instead of what blacks should do for themselves.

And they're going to have to in a couple of decades because the rapidly rising annual interest payments on the national debt that have to be paid out each year are going to seriously impact blacks in America (and everyone else that relies on government) as they severely cut into government programs.

It will be interesting to see if they adjust to that in a positive or negative way. Will black communities become the most poverty ridden dangerous gangland war zones, no different than Liberia, IN the U.S.?





There is a biblical principle called forgiveness.

Unfortunately fiorgiveness and victimhood are not compatible.

Forgive and stop being victims, take life on your own terms and stop blaming others, as many african americans have, and guess what?

Ya stop being a liberal bigot.

It ain't rocket science, well at least to conservatives its not
 
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You are not the least bit curious about this tragic situation. You are shamelessly using it to forward a venomous political agenda. Have you no love for any of the souls involved in this incident?

Please whatever you choose to do I beg you do not tell anyone you claim to be a Christian. Tell them you are a Catholic or a Muslim or an agnostic or even an atheist. Spare Christ the shame of you using His name.


For the cause of Christ
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Wow - Dude. You're a piece of work Roger. What's written on this site is only offensive to me I guess. Your quote won't get erased - they like that kind of thing here. But what's written on your heart tho is ....wow. And you're chastising someone else about the souls involved?

All I have to do is just not read this site. What you need to do is much more labor intensive.
 
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Ferguson:

Four black males beat white hot dog vendor outside Home Depot in the head with a hammer: Suspects hit hot dog vendor with hammer at local Home Depot | KMOV.com St. Louis
Black protesters 'putting cops on hit list' in Missouri: Black protesters ‘putting cops on hit list’ in Missouri

Four men in ski masks armed with shotguns approached a crowd at Sheffingdell Ct. and Chambers Rd. and pointed a shotgun at a police officer who shot the suspect: Police wound man amid protests over Michael Brown killing - The Washington Post

Etc...
 
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The narrative the liberal MSM, liberals themselves, and most of the black demographic is playing is that it's OK to break the law, rob stores, riot, loot, tell police officers you're not going to get out of the street when they tell you to, live that thug life, etc... but it's NOT ok for the police to stop them and anyone who says different is "unchristian," "evil," and a "racist."

Obviously not. Live a moral life. Better yet if all these rioters, looters, thugs, etc... lived a moral life at the same time then they would have a moral society.

But their elevator doesn't go that high, of course.


Wow - Dude. You're a piece of work Roger. What's written on this site is only offensive to me I guess. Your quote won't get erased - they like that kind of thing here. But what's written on your heart tho is ....wow. And you're chastising someone else about the souls involved?

All I have to do is just not read this site. What you need to do is much more labor intensive.
 
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Not with Martin Luther King's son inciting people.....IN CHURCH.


[h=1]John 8:7King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]7 [/SUP]So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

King James Version (KJV)
 

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I will say though. I've been watching the live feeds done by Vice News on Youtube. Seeing a Missouri State Trooper carrying what was probably an AR-15 while wearing military fatigues was scary. Our police should not be in military uniform. Swat uniforms? OK. Military Fatigues with Camo? NOPE!
Good afternoon, Thomist,
I hope you are doing well today.

Romans 13 is the passage that comes to my mind.

Now this is just IMHO stuff:

The idea seemed to be that to calm the Fergusans, the cops needs to unlax, stand down, do the ol' jumsy wumsy sugar plumsy routine with the mob. But this didn't work. They have gone on rampage, destroying, looting, even shooting people. The whole mob thing was a racist judgmental reaction: one of our race was shot by one of another race, so we know who was right & who was wrong in agreement with our race. I guess it was more fun to go on the street & riot than to wait for the evidence to come in.

I think that when a mob is on the riot, wanting to lynch someone, the mob needs to be decisively crushed & sent home beaten. Decisive, overwhelming force of government is required. Nothing should be done to please the lustful desires of a mob. And government should come out with decisive, overwhelming equipment, so that the police are not injured.

But I think I share your disdain of police (in general) who are not in proper police uniform and not acting like police, but thugs. But when a violent mob is out of control, on rampage, a military style response is in order.

BTW, it looked to me like certain shop-owners were out in front of their shops in defense, not with AR-15's, but AK-47 style rifles.
 
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The narrative the liberal MSM, liberals themselves, and most of the black demographic is playing is that it's OK to break the law, rob stores, riot, loot, tell police officers you're not going to get out of the street when they tell you to, live that thug life, etc... but it's NOT ok for the police to stop them and anyone who says different is "unchristian," "evil," and a "racist."

Obviously not. Live a moral life. Better yet if all these rioters, looters, thugs, etc... lived a moral life at the same time then they would have a moral society.

But their elevator doesn't go that high, of course.
Blacks have the same opportunities as anyone in America to elevate themselves. The sad reality is that a very small percentage of them do due to a lack of motivation. I have no problems with your posts as long as they are factual and do not make a 'blanket statement" on all Blacks. We are basically in agreement over the discord.
 
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