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AgeofKnowledge
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Read what ThomistCollin wrote Deadtosin. That IS what I'm responding to. Understand, that I DO accept your point.
Crimes of the Elite Against Children
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I understand that this thread isn't about 9-11, I was just responding to the "conspiracy theorist" categorization post. As far as the pope, Elizabeth and GW being part of a satanic cult, I don't know anything about Elizabeth. I do however have some info on the bohemian grove as well as skull and bones that GW attends/attended as well as the 9-11 situation (GW) I don't doubt that satan has a stronghold in very high places and I am one of those who does believe that evidence supports satanism in Bush's history. As far as the claims of Kevin Annett I am looking into those right now and so far I get that he was nominated for a nobel peace prize for exactly his ITCCS. I have found one website that attacks him but they don't offer anything other than the behavior of those around him and his asking for money as evidence he is mistaken.
It goes on to say this "Reverend Annett has been honored and adopted by aboriginal nations in Canada over the past fifteen years and has helped immeasureable numbers of residential school survivors at a great personal cost, in recognition of which he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by a group of North American scholars."
Kevin Annett Nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize - Salem-News.Com which seems to back up everything the OP has been suggesting. Pope, Elizabeth and Bush. What exact evidence to we have to support the claims are false? ( is it further back in this thread? sorry I wasn't planning on REALLY participating in this, I was just making a general statement, but I'm in now)
lol I really like those initials. A-Okay!
First, it is not the job of the accused to prove their innocence, that leads to witch hunts. Second, I've already mentioned that the supposed International Courts that have agreed with the evidence aren't international courts, they are websites and small groups of conspiracy theorists. Second, two of the people who have come forward as "survivors" of this cult don't exist outside of their claims. I've done exhaustive searches for any people by their names or descriptions. They don't exist at all. THe only hits were the places were postings and repostings of this supposed evidence.
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AgeofKnowledge
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Wrong Deadtossin.
Here's the scenario: If you're falsely asserting that George Bush is a five million year old alien reptile empowered by Satan himself and stealing children from America's households to barbecue and dine on using a secret sauce invented by the late Henry Hill to maintain his Satanic powers and I invent a common law "international court" on my website apart from the actual list of legitimate international courts in the world and then use that as the basis of qualified nominator to nominate you for the Nobel Peace prize after which I have my friends post on their websites that you've been nominated for the Nobel Peace prize nominee that does not make it legitimate.
^ Please read and reread what I just shared with you until it sinks in and you understand it.
Here's the scenario: If you're falsely asserting that George Bush is a five million year old alien reptile empowered by Satan himself and stealing children from America's households to barbecue and dine on using a secret sauce invented by the late Henry Hill to maintain his Satanic powers and I invent a common law "international court" on my website apart from the actual list of legitimate international courts in the world and then use that as the basis of qualified nominator to nominate you for the Nobel Peace prize after which I have my friends post on their websites that you've been nominated for the Nobel Peace prize nominee that does not make it legitimate.
^ Please read and reread what I just shared with you until it sinks in and you understand it.
Okay, but the salem evening news seems to think that North American scholars agree that the man's work was worth a nobel peace prize. It seems unlikely that a legitimate U.S. news agency would make such a foolish mistake as to believe questionable sources regarding the situation. They seem to believe that the man indeed has helped the survivors and is honored in many places for 15 years. That hardly sounds like some random conspiracy theorist starting rumors.
AoK we are talking about Salem news.
Salem-News.Com News from Salem Oregon and the surrounding region.
I can't find any evidence this is a fraudulent news site.
A news website that has advertising banners for the legalization of marijuana, a local karate dojo, and a company that sells pharmaceuticals online overseas. Here's the problem, the guy was nominated. That's it, by a group of academicians. He did not win, he was only one of the people nominated that year (of which there were thousands). Hardly great evidence, its circumstancial at best.
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RachelBibleStudent
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take a look at the list of salem-news.com staff members...specifically scroll down to the canadian staff members...
Canada
Daniel Johnson - (Political/Cultural Columnist) Jerry West - (World Politics; regular , Salem-News.com Correspondent)
Diane Walsh, MA (Salem-News.com Human and Political Rights Correspondent in BC)
Kevin Annett, MA (Salem-News.com Human and Political Rights Correspondent in Nanaimo, Vancouver Island)
Bill Annett, MA (Salem-News.com Human and Political Rights Correspondent in Sasquatchian)
Salem-News.Com Staff
also look at the article you linked to already...specifically look at the author's description of the last youtube link in the list of youtube links that follows the article...
"Other key testimonies from our Court case against genocide in Canada"
conclusion...this 'news' story was written by kevin annett himself...or by one of his associates...
259 nominees for 2013. and Marijuana is legal in Oregon, I'm sure they have a local dojo, whats your point?
that's good stuff right there Rachel, that definitely doesn't qualify as unbiased reporting. Thanks
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RachelBibleStudent
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a common characteristic of delusional disorders is the belief that the entire rest of the world who disagree with their delusions are the crazy ones and that the person suffering from the delusions is one of the few 'sane' people in the world...
...so much for rejecting psychology
Here is some great stuff on the pope. It's written by Michel Chossudovsky (born 1946) is a Canadian economist. A professor of economics (emeritus) at the University of Ottawa
“Washington’s Pope”? Who is Pope Francis I? | Global Research
This has tons of evidence against the pope and crimes involving kidnappings and torture in Argentina, complete with U.S. documentation.
“Washington’s Pope”? Who is Pope Francis I? | Global Research
This has tons of evidence against the pope and crimes involving kidnappings and torture in Argentina, complete with U.S. documentation.
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oldernotwiser
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i dont know much about the phillipines (other than that manilla is an open sewer)but i do know about thailand. thailand is the child rape capital of the world and its 90% western men doing the raping. if anyone is interested read Only 13, The true Story of Lon. if you can read it with a combination of rage and tears i suspect you should be on your knees praying for compassion and the strength to do something about this problem.
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RachelBibleStudent
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this is the commonly used conspiracy theorist argument that i like to call the 'watergate therefore lizard people' argument...the argument is basically an exercise in comparing apples and oranges...
for example the fact that a number of executives at enron conspired to commit fraud...and the notion that a millennia old secret society controls the world...are on two entirely different levels of plausibility...the former is not unprecedented and fairly easy to achieve by those who with the will to do so...the second involves unheard of levels of successful secrecy and successful planning over a time frame longer than the lifespan of all governments and nearly all civilizations on the planet...
and this will no doubt send a few people into orbit...but there is one very obvious difference between real conspiracies and the stuff conspiracy theorists promote...the 'mainstream media' actually -reports- the real conspiracies... watergate was covered by the mainstream media...NSA wiretapping was covered by the mainstream media...and so on... meanwhile certain notions are permanently stuck in the dark fringes of the internet because -that is exactly where they belong-
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AgeofKnowledge
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You haven't yet shown that you comprehend what I posted. Slow down and reread my post clicking on each link and reading the information as you go.
Here's the scenario: If you're falsely asserting that George Bush is a five million year old alien reptile empowered by Satan himself and stealing children from America's households to barbecue and dine on using a secret sauce invented by the late Henry Hill to maintain his Satanic powers and
1. I invent a common law "international court" on my website to fabricate credibility for your false conspiracy theory that
2. does not actually exist as legitimately recognized international court and then use that invention
3. as the basis to name myself a qualified nominator to nominate you for the Nobel Peace prize after which
4. I have my friends post on websites that you've been nominated for the Nobel Peace prize nominee to lend the impression that both you and your ridiculous conspiracy theory are legitimate
-->that IS disingenuous and misleading to people who don't know any better.
^ Please read and reread what I just shared with you until it sinks in and you understand it.
Here's the scenario: If you're falsely asserting that George Bush is a five million year old alien reptile empowered by Satan himself and stealing children from America's households to barbecue and dine on using a secret sauce invented by the late Henry Hill to maintain his Satanic powers and
1. I invent a common law "international court" on my website to fabricate credibility for your false conspiracy theory that
2. does not actually exist as legitimately recognized international court and then use that invention
3. as the basis to name myself a qualified nominator to nominate you for the Nobel Peace prize after which
4. I have my friends post on websites that you've been nominated for the Nobel Peace prize nominee to lend the impression that both you and your ridiculous conspiracy theory are legitimate
-->that IS disingenuous and misleading to people who don't know any better.
^ Please read and reread what I just shared with you until it sinks in and you understand it.
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RachelBibleStudent
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ok i am not trying to be mean here...but it took me about -five minutes- to find this clear conflict of interest on that 'news' site...just how hard did you really try to find evidence that it wasn't a legitimate news site?
this seems to be another universal trait of conspiracy theorists...inability or unwillingness to make a competent or honest effort to evaluate their conspiracy theories...unfortunately failing to -seriously- check out the possibility that you are just plain wrong is a recipe for self deception...
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AgeofKnowledge
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I don't know how to be any clearer. The guy invented a common law "international court" on his website, used that as the basis to claim that he's a reputable Nobel Peace prize nominee, and then had it posted on another website he's listed as a staff member on.
Do I think he should have the freedom to do that? Sure. I'm all for freedom of speech. But does that mean I now view his wild conspiracy theories as credible as a result? Of course NOT.
Muddy the water all you like but don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining... lol.
Do I think he should have the freedom to do that? Sure. I'm all for freedom of speech. But does that mean I now view his wild conspiracy theories as credible as a result? Of course NOT.
Muddy the water all you like but don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining... lol.
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RachelBibleStudent
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although 'global research' is not a credible website...and in fact they basically just lifted this story from others who had already covered it...this actually is a more valid issue than the other stuff on this thread...
there are understandable suspicions that francis had played some role in the actions of argentina's totalitarian regime while he was still a priest...however these allegations are on more or less the same level as the claims that pius xii and benedict xvi were nazi sympathizers...the evidence supporting the allegations is purely circumstantial or anecdotal and the weight of the evidence against the allegations seems to be considerably stronger...
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RachelBibleStudent
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speaking of real conspiracies...and following on what i have said previously about the psychology of projection...it would appear that there actually -is- a conspiracy in this case...namely a small and not very far reaching internet based conspiracy between kevin annett and a handful of his online associates working to create an illusion of credibility around his activities...