Is your house build on the rock or sand?

[know1]

Luk 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
Luk 6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when [the rain descended, and the winds blew and] the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
Luk 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which [the rain descended, and the winds blew and] the stream did beat vehemently [on the house], and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

What is your house built on?

I think the answer would be a resounding and unanimous, "the ROCK!!!" from everyone.
Obviously, everyone would say on the rock, of course, but is it really?
What does the rock, sand, storm, foundation, and house represent?
Honestly, I don't know exactly what everything represents in its entirety.
But I do know however, what the rock represents, like most Christians.
If you said Jesus, you might be right or you could be very wrong, depending.
Jesus IS the WORD of GOD, He IS the TRUTH!!! If the rock is the truth, then you are on a strong foundation.
What about the sand? What could the sand represent or be in our life? Knowing what the sand is could be just as important as knowing what the rock is. If you know what and where quicksand is, are you going to jump in it with both feet, knowing you are going to sink? I should think, NOT!!!
The sand, according to commentators, is human efforts. I would go even further, and say that it is looking to and trusting in the things of the natural world. For example, if it were a sickness, it would be in a doctor or in medicines. That would be one thing I view as, sand.
So if the rock is Jesus Himself, or more specifically, the word of God or the truth, then the sand must be a lie from the devil.
If the rock represents something permanent, unchangeable, and immovable, then the sand must be something temporal, changeable, and movable.
The word of God says the things of this world are temporal but God and the things which are not seen, are unchangeable and eternal.
What constitutes truth and lie in this natural world we live in? That's where the word and faith of God comes in.
The foundation, which is the faith of God, in which we are to dig deep and build our house on, is the rock/truth/word of God. God's WORD IS that rock!!! And that Word IS JESUS.
Understand that there is only one rock and one sand (the natural world), but many storms will come and go. And not all storms, winds, floods, and streams are created equal. They will vary, and vary in intensities. Some will be more intense and trying than others.
I like to use sickness and diseases, because it is sooooo prevalent among the children of God, but the trials can be anything stressful, hurtful, painful, ...etc.
So how does building our foundation on the rock help us or the house in which we live, with a natural problem that comes against us? It could be anything, but let's use cancer as the storm.
How will trusting in Jesus help us weather through the storm?
What is our mind's eyes on and faith in? Is it on the word of God or on what a doctor says or what medication can do? On the rock or the sand, on the truth or the lie, on God or the world's remedy/fix?
What if the natural world has no fix/cure for, let's say an incurable world plague? What then? Oop?!!!
What do you think when Jesus said, "and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great", actually means?
It simply means that the storm KILLED THEM physically!!!
The two parable that I combined, [part in brackets] is what walking by and fighting the good fight of faith is all about.
It is first and foremost, KNOWING the truth, THEN, and only then, will the truth MAKE you free from the storm in your life.
If you don't KNOW the truth, then every prayer you pray, and every thing you do, will come to naught, because the faith is NOT there. Without faith, nothing is guaranteed. With faith in God and His word, all things that were not possible, now become possible.
After you have faith, then is the time when you need to hold fast to your confession, standing on the Word for God, the truth, for He IS faithful who promise, for ALL the promises of God in Him are, Yeah, and in Him, Amen.
It is having done all to stand, stand therefore on the word of God.
It is the time to look to the author and finisher of our faith, looking at the promises of God rather than the natural storm. What you look at and dwell on the most, you will walk to and eventually on. If it is on the word of God, then you will walk on a strong rock foundation, but if you look at and dwell on the things, conditions, or circumstances of this world and its natural course in which all things operate, and start envisioning what the storm could do to you or a loved one in the natural, then you and your house, and/or the house of a loved one, is on the sand, and the house WILL fall, guaranteed by the word of God.
It is speaking forth or sending the word of God, for the angels hearken and excel in strength to those who give God's word voice, for He sent His word and healed ALL [your] diseases, for so shall [God's] word be that goeth forth out of [your] mouth: it shall not return unto [you] void, but it shall accomplish that which [you] please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto [you] sent it, for God creates the fruit of your lips, for there [shall] not failed one word of all his good promise, which he promised by the hand of Moses his servant. [brackets added for clarity and to personalize only]
So, what is your house built upon?

 

[Deadtosin]

It's simple. Focus on building your relationship with Jesus Christ. Love Him, welcome Him into your heart and your hate will leave, you will be able to forgive those people who wronged you, maybe not yet and not of your own heart but of the heart Jesus Christ will put in you. Before you begin to build your life you build your relationship with Jesus Christ. The Rock. The Rock of your foundation. The rest will fall into place

 

[crossnote]

The more important question is "Who is building your house?" You? or the Lord?

Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. (Psa 127:1)

 

[TheGreatSeeker]

not sure, I come to rock to make me like him, but been so long here, I wonder if he is the sinking sand that only knows how to say i can die and rise and grace and we all have to have a sin nature. My faith in Jesus is not as great as it use to be and yrs of calling on his name to know it and walk with it, has been in vain so far. And the family of God do not help at all as they are all sinners just sinning and and sinning and sinning and sinning and sinning, saying Jesus loves me and forgives me and by his blood I am righteous. Grace does not work for me like that and I come to not sin any more by his holy spirit, and with no one like Jesus in this world...I am unsure of the Rock, or it is just the people are not like me and could care less to be holy as God and pure.

 

[Deadtosin]

not sure, I come to rock to make me like him, but been so long here, I wonder if he is the sinking sand that only knows how to say i can die and rise and grace and we all have to have a sin nature. My faith in Jesus is not as great as it use to be and yrs of calling on his name to know it and walk with it, has been in vain so far. And the family of God do not help at all as they are all sinners just sinning and and sinning and sinning and sinning and sinning, saying Jesus loves me and forgives me and by his blood I am righteous. Grace does not work for me like that and I come to not sin any more by his holy spirit, and with no one like Jesus in this world...I am unsure of the Rock, or it is just the people are not like me and could care less to be holy as God and pure.

Dude, did you just call Jesus sand? I hope you get banned man.. I am appalled.

 

[know1]

It's simple. Focus on building your relationship with Jesus Christ. Love Him, welcome Him into your heart and your hate will leave, you will be able to forgive those people who wronged you, maybe not yet and not of your own heart but of the heart Jesus Christ will put in you. Before you begin to build your life you build your relationship with Jesus Christ. The Rock. The Rock of your foundation. The rest will fall into place

I have seen how the rest falls into place with the majority of Christians.
Their prayers don't get answered and they get sick and die just like the unbelievers do.

 

[Deadtosin]

I have seen how the rest falls into place with the majority of Christians.
Their prayers don't get answered and they get sick and die just like the unbelievers do.

The believers do get sick and die. God's will doesn't always align with our own. The real question shouldn't be physical. It should be spiritual. Do they have peace. Do they forgive. Are they loving. Do they appreciate those around them? Do they have the "spiritual fruits"?

 

[know1]

The more important question is "Who is building your house?" You? or the Lord?

Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. (Psa 127:1)

How very right you are.
If Jesus is the builder, then He will lead you into all truth.
If it is not Him, then you will be lead into error.
Thank you for adding that sir.
That truly is correct and important.

 

[know1]

The believers do get sick and die. God's will doesn't always align with our own. The real question shouldn't be physical. It should be spiritual. Do they have peace. Do they forgive. Are they loving. Do they appreciate those around them? Do they have the "spiritual fruits"?

No, those who know the word of God and walk uprightly before Him, don't get sick and die like the rest of the world. You just don't know anyone like that yet.
God's word IS His will. If you know and believe what the bible says, then you will know what His will really is.
If you line your prayers up with the word of God, then your will will line up with Gods'.
Though we are spirit beings we still live in the physical, so the physical is very important as well.
Though the rest of the things you mentioned are well and good, they will not help you in trouble.

 

[LEPIDUS]

"Christians" claim or at least think their foundation is upon the rock. However, if that is true there should not be any division among the body of Christ. People read the same bible and have different understanding. That would not be an issue if people followed Christs example; by speaking he taught, by his actions he confirmed. There are so many different interpretation of scripture that it does not bring unity to the body of Christ. Therefor, the foundation cannot be Christ.


It should be built on Christ, The Rock, not on Paul, Peter or any other human being that claim to have great understanding. Christ teachings is the doctrine that "christians" should be following, and by no means with this statement am I belittling the teachings of the OLD TESTAMENT, as Christ was also the focus. The Bible should be understood as a whole; not pick and choose to what suits us, because regardless if I or you want to, His will, will be done. I believe God is gracious enough to present us what that will is, but our human nature is corrupted and by our own interpretation have caused division among the body.


No one, no human, no other God is Above Him. His Word, should be final doctrine whether it suits us or not.


Deuteronomy 3:24 (KJV)
24 O Lord God, thou hast begun to shew thy servant thy greatness, and thy mighty hand: for what God is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to thy works, and according to thy might?


If Christ laid the foundation, Why lay another? Especially one that is unstable.


1 Corinthians 3:11 (KJV)
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:25 (KJV)
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.


If "christians" believe his teachings, and really see him as the foundation, we should all be united as whole, as one; as He is to the Father, and how we shall be to them (Father,Son), united as one. There would be no division in the body for we are one with them.


John 17:21-23 (KJV)
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.


22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:


23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.


John 17 is a beautiful prayer from Christ to The Father. Yes many will say you are taking that out of context, for he is praying for the Apostles.


Are we not part of the body of Christ, as much as they are?


Two things can bring us to unity, divine love, divine word; divine love will unite without discrimination, divine word will unite in doctrine.


These are my thoughts on this, lol I know some will oppose and have some haughty assertion to make and that is fine.

 

[Deadtosin]

No, those who know the word of God and walk uprightly before Him, don't get sick and die like the rest of the world. You just don't know anyone like that yet.

They don't die like the rest of us?

 

[Deadtosin]

Anyone here ever build a house in real life? the foundation is not the house. Christ is our foundation. The foundation is the very first thing. You build the foundation and the rest of the house follows. For Christ to be our foundation He has to be more important than your house, your money, your job. Everything. Seek Him, love Him. When you trust Him totally you will have your solid foundation. The like of which death will not bother you. Losing a loved one will not bother you. The Rock being our foundation does not equate as "we have attained all things Holy"

 

[SolidGround]

Two people can disagree theologically, yet agree in Christ. This is unity.
The Bible is clear about us being able to have different convictions, yet being still one unit. Remember the Scriptures dealing with eating meat, and observing holidays?

I realize that certain denominations claim to be the one and only true Church.
This belief is actually a symptom of not being part of the Church!
Beware of those who bring accusation against the brethren, as Satan does.
Beware of those who cause division by claiming that they alone know the way.

Christ is the Way. If your know Christ, then you know the way.

Some will claim this as being universalism. FALSE! Christ is the ONLY WAY.
But doctrines are not THE WAY. We can disagree on doctrine, yet both agree in Christ.

 

[Timeline]

Two people can disagree theologically, yet agree in Christ. This is unity.
The Bible is clear about us being able to have different convictions, yet being still one unit. Remember the Scriptures dealing with eating meat, and observing holidays?

I realize that certain denominations claim to be the one and only true Church.
This belief is actually a symptom of not being part of the Church!
Beware of those who bring accusation against the brethren, as Satan does.
Beware of those who cause division by claiming that they alone know the way.

Christ is the Way. If your know Christ, then you know the way.

Some will claim this as being universalism. FALSE! Christ is the ONLY WAY.
But doctrines are not THE WAY. We can disagree on doctrine, yet both agree in Christ.

I like this thought! Satan is the great accuser...and as Christians we should be less inclined to accuse one another.

I know there is a limit to what we should allow in our churches, as directed by Paul, but we are not intended to "accuse" each other.

I think of it as being a coach (or a fellow player) instead of a referee. Not that one of us is above the other, but that we should have the other person's interest (and the team) in mind. We are here to build up and to be built up. We should not be standing around waiting for our chance to throw the flag and penalize others around us. It seems that so many think they are referees, but if everyone is a ref, then it is less enjoyable and looks more like a prison yard.

Yeah, I know its goofy, but I'm posting it anyway.

 

[LEPIDUS]

Two people can disagree theologically, yet agree in Christ. This is unity. The Bible is clear about us being able to have different convictions, yet being still one unit. Remember the Scriptures dealing with eating meat, and observing holidays?

If we have one understanding of Christ word there would be no conviction of those things and if there is it would be the same conviction. That is unity.

I realize that certain denominations claim to be the one and only true Church.
This belief is actually a symptom of not being part of the Church!
Beware of those who bring accusation against the brethren, as Satan does.
Beware of those who cause division by claiming that they alone know the way.

Again that is the problem, if we all were on one accord with Christ there would be no denominations, but unity upon the foundation.

I never claimed, that I alone know the way, I clearly said that God is above any being, with this statement you are proving my post correct, because if you and I were in accord with scripture you would not be making any assertions of something that I clearly never stated.

And if you read the entire chapter it goes on to say, that then, when we are one, they will believe that The Father sent him and not only did he pray for the apostles but he also prayed for us that by the words of the apostles we may believe in Christ and also be united as one.

John 17:
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Christ is the Way. If your know Christ, then you know the way.

And hopefully have full understanding of his word.

Some will claim this as being universalism. FALSE! Christ is the ONLY WAY.
But doctrines are not THE WAY. We can disagree on doctrine, yet both agree in Christ.

I never stated the doctrine is the way, I said that if we all were on one accord with his word we would be united as one, and he would be our foundation, please don't twist my words.

How can Christ say one thing, you and I say two complete opposite things but still be in Christ?

 

[SolidGround]

If we have one understanding of Christ word there would be no conviction of those things and if there is it would be the same conviction. That is unity.



Again that is the problem, if we all were on one accord with Christ there would be no denominations, but unity upon the foundation.

I never claimed, that I alone know the way, I clearly said that God is above any being, with this statement you are proving my post correct, because if you and I were in accord with scripture you would not be making any assertions of something that I clearly never stated.

And if you read the entire chapter it goes on to say, that then, when we are one, they will believe that The Father sent him and not only did he pray for the apostles but he also prayed for us that by the words of the apostles we may believe in Christ and also be united as one.

John 17:
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.



And hopefully have full understanding of his word.



I never stated the doctrine is the way, I said that if we all were on one accord with his word we would be united as one, and he would be our foundation, please don't twist my words.

How can Christ say one thing, you and I say two complete opposite things but still be in Christ?

you take it too personally.

 

[SolidGround]

If you can't disagree with your brother, and still accept them as a brother...
you would have a lot of reading to do.
The Epistles are chock full of how we are to deal with disagreements. Most of them end with "then agree in Christ", not just choosing which side is right.
One says that we must not eat meat, another says that it is okay to eat meat.... if they agree in Christ, then they are unified as one.
If one says that we must observe this holiday, and another says we do not need to observe any holiday but all days equally... if they agree in Christ, then they are made ONE in Christ.

 

[LEPIDUS]

you take it too personally.

You made unwarranted assertions directed to me.

 

[SolidGround]

You made unwarranted assertions directed to me.

You assumed they were for you.
They weren't.
They were very general.

I was telling you to beware of them,
not placing you in their group.

 

[LEPIDUS]

If you can't disagree with your brother, and still accept them as a brother...
you would have a lot of reading to do.
The Epistles are chock full of how we are to deal with disagreements. Most of them end with "then agree in Christ", not just choosing which side is right.

I can disagree with you on everything but i would like to agree with you when it comes to scripture.