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You claim God is a monad, and yet you cannot show us a single verse which states that He is...
You claim God is a monad, and yet you cannot show us a single verse which states that He is...
Order of the trinity
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Re: Fail.
The Holy Spirit is God, Just as the father is God and the Son or the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us. The 3 are God and one does what the other do. Jesus said I do only what I see my Father do. What did He mean and to whom did He pray to?
The Holy Spirit is God, Just as the father is God and the Son or the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us. The 3 are God and one does what the other do. Jesus said I do only what I see my Father do. What did He mean and to whom did He pray to?
so you are saying God has a body soul and spirit? image refers to likeness as to what can be seen. you assume because you have been taught along those lines....it means If God were to become visible He would have the appearance of a man...Man was made from dirt.
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I quoted scripture I claim nothing...you say I claim ...this is scripture...But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
I quoted scripture I claim nothing...you say I claim ...this is scripture...But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
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Isaiah 42 King James Version (KJV)
42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
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same Spirit....
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
same Spirit....
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
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Already included in The Trinity.
You, however, completely ignore scripture stating that The Son is the True God, as this utterly destroys unitarianism.
Already included in The Trinity.
You, however, completely ignore scripture stating that The Son is the True God, as this utterly destroys unitarianism.
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[SUP]24 [/SUP]Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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The coequality that is spoken of is that of nature, something that the NT (John 1.1c, Hebrews 1.3, Philippians 2.6, Colossians 2.9) and the ancient creedal statements of the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries assert,
This language of "First, Second, and Third" is not meant to denigrate the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit in any way, but is used solely to describe the inter-Trinitarian heirarchy of authority.
Equality of nature is not equivalent to equality of authority.
“being of one substance with the Father” – Nicene Creed
“consubstantial with the Father according to the Godhead, and consubstantial with us according to the Manhood” – Chalcedonian Creed
“equal to the Father in divinity, subordinate to the Father in humanity” – Athanasian Creed
“consubstantial with the Father according to the Godhead, and consubstantial with us according to the Manhood” – Chalcedonian Creed
“equal to the Father in divinity, subordinate to the Father in humanity” – Athanasian Creed
This language of "First, Second, and Third" is not meant to denigrate the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit in any way, but is used solely to describe the inter-Trinitarian heirarchy of authority.
Equality of nature is not equivalent to equality of authority.
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very funny all you respond is "Already included in The Trinity. " but yet you cannot show the trinity in scripture. Anyone can take a bunch of scripture and form a doctrine, that is how false doctrine is started...You have no one scripture claiming trinity ...there was one saying these three bear record in heaven or something like that and that was put in there by your trinity fathers. That is how far those liars would go to push their doctrine. That is evidence enough to show it is a doctrine of man.
very funny all you respond is "Already included in The Trinity. " but yet you cannot show the trinity in scripture. Anyone can take a bunch of scripture and form a doctrine, that is how false doctrine is started...You have no one scripture claiming trinity ...there was one saying these three bear record in heaven or something like that and that was put in there by your trinity fathers. That is how far those liars would go to push their doctrine. That is evidence enough to show it is a doctrine of man.
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You have the entire Holy Bible to choose from.
For simpletons like yourself, Jesus' baptism makes the claim of three Persons; one Being....all in one simple verse.
Stop running.
You have the entire Holy Bible to choose from.
For simpletons like yourself, Jesus' baptism makes the claim of three Persons; one Being....all in one simple verse.
Stop running.
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[SUP]25 [/SUP]Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For behold your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;
[SUP]28 [/SUP]and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]that no flesh should glory before God.
seeing but you cannot see....your intellect has become a snare.....
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For behold your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;
[SUP]28 [/SUP]and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]that no flesh should glory before God.