The Shooting of Michael Brown

[David_1]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I did not read the whole thread, but God is against the "protesters" aka rioters, the proof is in the pudding in 4 of 6 things the Lord detests, especially the last one:

There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18[/SUP] a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

I agree the rioters are to be condemned. I suspect the anger in community is brought on by a corrupt system, by the looters are simply opportunists.

Careful though, you are condemning people who stir up conflict in the community there. This could easy be the police officers who bungled this stuff after Michael's death.

 

[Dude653]

The problem is that there is no accountability. They are above the law that we pay them to enforce.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

And this thread could have done without those things being mentioned now. The rioters are different than the peaceful protesters.

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I did not read the whole thread, but God is against the "protesters" aka rioters, the proof is in the pudding in 4 of 6 things the Lord detests, especially the last one:

There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18[/SUP] a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

 

[jjtj22]

And this thread could have done without those things being mentioned now. The rioters are different than the peaceful protesters.

All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, 2 Timothy 3:16

No matter if we are talking about rioters, looters, corrupt police are any other category. Proverbs 6 is true of all people of all races throughout time.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

An excellent and timely post from Proverbs. So relevant. Pay attention to "a false witness who pours out lies" because the Criminal Section of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division that is handling the shooting of Michael Brown which Eric Holder brought to town was smacked down by a federal judge for gross prosecutorial misconduct.

"As pointed out by J. Christian Adams, who now writes for PJ Media and once worked in Justice's Voting Rights Section, many of the Justice Department attorneys who participated in the New Orleans fiasco still work in the Civil Rights Division and the 'anti-police biases of lawyers in this unit have resulted in gross prosecutorial misconduct against police officers.'
Adams left Justice after Holder refused to pursue what looked like a clear case of voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers at a Philadelphia polling place in 2008.

As they say, someone's point of view often depends on whose ox is being gored. And if anyone wanted to know Holder's view of police officers, let's remember, as we have mentioned before, that the administration nominated Debo Adegbile to head the Civil Rights Division. His claim to fame was being the lawyer who fought to free from prison Mumia Abu-Jamal, the convicted killer of Philadelphia Police Officer Danny Faulkner.

Justice is supposed to be blind, and that includes being colorblind, and should take investigators where the facts lead them. Justice doesn't start with a predetermined verdict and actions that taint the jury pool. The track record of Holder and the Civil Rights Division does not speak well of any desire for true justice."


Lynch Mob: DOJ Ferguson Unit Has Tainted Past - Investors.com

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I did not read the whole thread, but God is against the "protesters" aka rioters, the proof is in the pudding in 4 of 6 things the Lord detests, especially the last one:

There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18[/SUP] a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Well they better get some blacks on it or it's not going anywhere. The New York Times poll shows that only 15% of white Americans believe the protests have been "about right," compared to 38% of black Americans.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/21/us/poll-nyt-cbs.html?_r=0

Maybe a new thread once the grand jury renders its decision.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

And yet, Proverbs 6:17-19 has no relevance when it is thought to attach itself to everyone in Ferguson in a blanket indictment. Especially while omitting the authorities in that erroneous blanket coverage.

All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, 2 Timothy 3:16

No matter if we are talking about rioters, looters, corrupt police are any other category. Proverbs 6 is true of all people of all races throughout time.

 

[Brighthouse]

Apart from whether the cop was correct or incorrect,the problem for many was the fact that this young man's body was on the street not covered for well over an hour!! So many saw this,as no one even cared to cover him up!! This really made many upset,and with good reason!

 

[biscuit]

Apart from whether the cop was correct or incorrect,the problem for many was the fact that this young man's body was on the street not covered for well over an hour!! So many saw this,as no one even cared to cover him up!! This really made many upset,and with good reason!

Most likely covering up the body would corrupt/taint the crime scene before the forensic personnel gets there.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

The elephant in the room, of course, as far as where you choose to live (outside of fairly secure environments like the military, college dorms, church, etc...) is that:

1. If you try to live in a predominantly black community and integrate, statistically you stand an exponentially higher chance of being seriously victimized. But, in fact, it won't be just because you're white as blacks victimize other blacks at exponentially higher rates than whites victimize anyone. But being white in a black neighborhood is definitely asking for it. I know a couple of white guys that did it but one was a Christian inner-city missionary so they gave him a pass and the other was a big ex-Vietnam veteran with confirmed kills under his belt who was always armed and everyone in the neighborhood knew it.

2. On the other hand, if you purposefully choose to live in white communities as part of an overall strategy to decrease risk to your personal safety and property, then you're called a "racist" and part of the "white flight" phenomena.

Since that's the only two choices, most whites choose number 2.

I gave it the old college try once and rented a room from a black family in a mixed neighborhood for several months in the 80's but there was just too many bad actors floating around and eventually it all spilled over as one kept calling me the N word (even though I'm white) every sentence out of his mouth and when I told him that I didn't feel it was appropriate he tried to take my head off with a sucker punch as a prelude to destroying me. Fortunately, I knew it was coming and we tore up the house fist fighting and I had to collect my stuff and leave.

You just can't "get along" with so many bad actors roaming those black neighborhoods. A fair number of them will assault/rob, rape if you're female, and even murder you if they believe they can get away with it.

But it wasn't always so. Before the late 60's, they were alright. About 70% were married and they had moral nuclear families for the most part in which one or both parents worked. What happened to bring us to where we are today? Whose fault is this dysfunctional liberal gangster rap anti-white culture that dominates the black community really?

It's not mine, I can tell you that.

 

[biscuit]

2. On the other hand, if you purposefully choose to live in white communities as part of an overall strategy to decrease risk to your personal safety and property, then you're called a "racist" and part of the "white flight" phenomena. [AgeofKnowledge]

Most Blacks who are part of mainstream America are smart enough to choose #2

That was a great post!

 

[BlackPlatypus]

Save for it was a white armed cop that shot an unarmed black man 6 times in broad daylight in a black community.

And purposefully living in white communities avails one nothing save the illusion they're safe because they're all the same lack of color.
Whites rob whites and kill whites. The KKK, who strive to live in an all white world, turn on each other and will kill one another under the excuse of, 'race traitor'. And all due to that ignorant proclamation, that anthem, that inspires the idea it is the righteous thing to do; white pride.

As if they had anything to do with the genetic Melanin protein they were born with prior to arriving in this world as Caucasians.

It isn't color's that make this world dangerous.

It's hate!

That's why option 2 is an example of that primary fact.

 

[Atwood]

Save for it was a white armed cop that shot an unarmed black man

Isn't that a racist statement, O Platypus? Why do you define the 2 men by pigment as if that made some difference?
You may as well say, "A balding man shot a guy with a full bush."

Second you say "an unarmed . . . man."
Is that a misleading statement if the cop was attacked by a nearly 300 pound man who was 6' 4" tall? Is it reasonable to say that his fists did not arm him? Didn't he have 2 arms (a left & a right)?
"One fist of iron & the other of steel, If the left'n don't get you then the right one weell, you load 16 tons, etc."

Repeating the "unarmed" like a mantra is prejudicial.

"6 times" At least 4 of the shots where superficial for stopping a man.

"in broad daylight" so what? Does time of day imply anything?

"in a black community. " Now why is there a "black community"? Why define a community by pigment?

"And purposefully living in white communities"

IMHO there are very few white communities -- they don't define themselves that way; in general in the USA pigment is no barrier to living among white persons.

"Whites rob whites and kill whites."

Why are you defining things by pigment? Do you go around all day, every day watching the world thru racist glasses? You think that persons who happen to be white pick people to shoot based on pigment?

"The KKK,"

I have no idea how they live, neither is the KKK of any relevance to this shooting, so far as I know.

"As if they had anything to do with the genetic Melanin protein they were born with prior to arriving in this world as Caucasians. "

What on earth does that mean? Do you define yourself by racist pigment?

It isn't color's that make this world dangerous. It's hate!

Defining a shooting by racism is dangerous, it is also hateful when there is no evidence that the shooter shot because of race.

There really is nothing good coming from repeating these mantras over & over, and nothing good coming from viewing things through racist glasses, assuming what is not in evidence.

On this shooting we just have to wait for evidence. Meanwhile, we assume innocence until proof of guilt. And I would say the very same thing if the pigments were reversed in this case.

 

[Atwood]

What Is The Purpose of This Forum?

Share the latest news (world news, local news, current events, etc.) with your Christian friends right here, and give or get a Christian perspective on it.

That is supposedly the purpose of this forum. Now how many posts have done the above???

Christian perspective:

1) Judge not, lest you be judged.

2) In Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, no African or European; all who trust the Lord Jesus as Savior are of the new race of Christ, members of the Body of Christ, brothers & sisters in the Lord.

3) Not everyone who names the name of Jesus is a Christian. Thus on this forum we have lots of unbelievers posting, it would appear.

4) Romans 13 says indicates that policemen are ministers of God, appointed to carry out God's vengeance on evil-doers.

5) There is wickedness in High Places (Eph 6).

6) It is appointed to man once to die, but after this the judgment.

7) The African-Americans in the USA probably have more loyalty to the name of Jesus than do those of north European descent in our present age.

8) IMHO: The Afro-American churches may be largely social-political entities, which honor the name of Jesus, but possibly are not primarily born-again Christian in perspective, this due to the ability to form churches was probably the only way that slaves could unite as a group in the old south. Anyone can feel free to correct me on this. So what would we make of M Brown's church affiliation? Or should we just not judge on that one?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Indeed. One of the criticisms of modern liberal/progressivism is that it emptied black communities of most of the wealthy professional African-Americans and that black communities suffered as a result. My black friends go to my church and share my worldview and culture. They aren't "gangbanging" or living a "thug life." They aren't "hood rats" and aspiring rap "artists" who make songs like "F the police."

They're just wonderful Christian people and I love them dearly, even when they disagree with me which isn't that often. There's definitely a BIG benefit in Christianity with it's morality, equality, and stable homogeneity.

Look around, it's been over 2,000 years and the world STILL hasn't figured it out. Maybe if they educate some more gangbangers to believe they're animals and there's no God and all their problems are "whiteys" fault instead of raising moral children within the Christian worldview they can build a better society? It hasn't worked at all so far and it's clear that it never will. But they keep taxing me to try that anyways. *rolls eyes*.

2. On the other hand, if you purposefully choose to live in white communities as part of an overall strategy to decrease risk to your personal safety and property, then you're called a "racist" and part of the "white flight" phenomena. [AgeofKnowledge]

Most Blacks who are part of mainstream America are smart enough to choose #2

That was a great post!

 

[SonInMe]

''7) The African-Americans in the USA probably have more loyalty to the name of Jesus than do those of north European descent in our present age.''

Without proof this is a blatantly bigoted statement...and I do not know how you would ever prove that. To even make this assumption suggests a prejudicial slant.

The problem with number 8 is....has any african american been a slave who is alive today? If slavery is affecting how you live your life you are in bondage to a lie and filled with hatreds

 

[SonInMe]

So this is happening. The boy's race wasn't stated, so maybe Ferguson police aren't racist. They're just cruel and violent. Ferguson Police Officer Justin Cosma Hog-Tied And Injured A Young Child, Lawsuit Alleges

Of course in your town there has never been police abuse...right?

 

[SonInMe]

"It had seemed to the four clean-cut college freshman that night like a typical McDonald’s: spanking clean, well-lighted, and safe. It was in a good neighborhood too, right next to Texas A&M University in College Station – a campus known for its friendly atmosphere and official down-home greeting: 'howdy.'

Out on a double date, the two couples pulled into the parking lot of so-called “University McDonald’s” shortly after 2 a.m. that Sunday – and beheld a scene unlike anything portrayed in all those wholesome McDonald’s television commercials. Before them, hundreds of young black males were loitering about, some without shirts.

'You're in the wrong neck of the woods, cowboys,' Giesen recalled a young black male saying. In an instant, a bloodthirsty black mob was upon them."

They murdered two innocent white kids from the suburbs for no other reason than they were two innocent white kids from the suburbs.

"Ward suffered for the last agonizing moments of his life at the hands of the atrocious animals as he endured a seemingly never ending series of blows. Upon being knocked to the ground, the crowd stomped on his head with some even jumping up and down on his defenseless body."

"The race of the assailants was scrubbed from local news coverage; and utterly missing from tersely written wire-service stories about a Brazos County jury’s whopping $27 million negligence verdict on July 30 against 'University McDonald’s' – an outlet owned by the Oak Brook, Illinois-based fast-food giant.

What the media considered unmentionable nevertheless loomed over a riveting seven-day trial, which came amid the growing phenomenon of black-on-white violence — unprovoked attacks on whites and black mob violence."

Beaten to Death at McDonald’s | FrontPage Magazine

RIP.

...and ya wonder why we are so against this blatant political race baiting and creation of racial tensions for political gain.

Hitler made a scapegoat of the jews to further his political agendas. The liberals are doing the same to white people and wether you like to admit it or not, its not just conservative white people....its christian white people....

and people die so Jackson and Sharpton can be millionaires and Obama can win elections.

I really wish the liberals who call themselves christians would pray and seek wisdom over what their votes are doing to this nation.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Sorry but there's thing called statistics and the government releases them from time to time... lol.

Be sure to adjust for size of population and take the per capita rate not the aggregate and please do be sure to use the WHITE NON-HISPANIC (e.g. Whites who are not of Hispanic origin) population as the hundreds of thousands of La Raza gangsters skew the results otherwise which is, of course, by design as the liberal social engineers that control the census classifies most Hispanics into the "white" category on the UCR for the purpose of social engineering to accomplish their socio-political long-term objectives (even though its disingenuous of them to do so imo). At least the NCVS only classifies some Hispanic criminals as "white" and some as "other race".

But even if you include ALL of La Raza as white, as the FBI 2011 'Hate Crime Statistics' does for example, you find that though blacks comprise 13.2% of the total U.S. population, they commit 20.9% of all hate crimes.

Homicides are worse, much worse. For example, in 2011, blacks committed 2,695 homicides from a total number of 6131 homicides. 13.2% of the population commits almost half of the homicides in the U.S.. And you can go right down the list for assaults, robberies, rapes, etc... and it's the same problem.

African American communities are the most dangerous in the U.S. to live in even if you're an African American.

So you go with your "best thinking" and I'll go with empirical statistics. CIAO.

And purposefully living in white communities avails one nothing save the illusion they're safe because they're all the same lack of color.

 

[Atwood]

''7) The African-Americans in the USA probably have more loyalty to the name of Jesus than do those of north European descent in our present age.''

Without proof this is a blatantly bigoted statement...and I do not know how you would ever prove that. To even make this assumption suggests a prejudicial slant.

It is just my general impression. To call it blatantly bigoted is judgmental nonsense.

Here is a statement from ChristianPost.com (I think):

"African-Americans are the most religiously devout racial group in the nation when it comes to attending services, praying and believing that God exists, according to a recent profile.Compared to the rest of the U.S. population, which is generally considered highly religious, African-Americans engage in religious activities more frequently and express higher levels of religious belief, Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life highlighted in a report released in time for Black History Month.
The center's U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, conducted in 2007 on more than 35,000 people, found that 79 percent of African-Americans say religion is very important in their lives while 56 percent of all U.S. adults said the same. Even among African-Americans who are unaffiliated with any particular faith, 45 percent of them say religion is very important compared to 16 percent of the religiously unaffiliated population overall.
Among the various racial and ethnic groups, African-Americans are the most likely to say they belong to a formal religious affiliation. An overwhelming 87 percent of African-Americans identify with a religious group, according to the U.S. Religious Landscape Survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.
Following close behind are Latinos, with 85 percent of its population associating with a religion. In comparison, 83 percent of the overall U.S. population report affiliation with a religion.
Nearly six out of ten African-Americans (59 percent) say they belong to a historically black Protestant church, according to the study. The next most popular affiliation is Evangelical Protestant churches (15 percent).

I don't think it is at all difficult to come up with demographical statistics on professed Christian.