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Adolf imagined the Third Reich would last 1000 years. It survived just a little over 12. But for all the resurrection of his name and the Reich references that occur on the net, his dream could indeed come true. At the end of 1000 years there will be people who bring Hitler into something, or even invoke Godwin's law somewhere on-line.
He'd be so pleased.
He'd be so pleased.
I think that (2thess.2;4) probably gives the easiest to grasp(description) of what should "stick out like a sore thumb" about him when he comes. That is if we simply look at the things that he(the beast) is suppose to do as if we were numbering his "ACTS" as they are given to us in scripture he himself(beast),verses the others that mankind have tried to apply those works to,both those incorrectly named as the beast and (the true beast) would be revealed.
In (2thess.2;4) the beast "opposeth"(in opposition to) Strong's Greek: 480. ἀντίκειμαι (antikeimai) -- to lie opposite, i.e. oppose, withstand and "exalteth" Strong's Greek: 5312. ὑψόω (hupsoó) -- to lift or raise up, to exalt, uplift "above (all that is called GOD) or that is WORSHIPED",,,So that he(the beast) sitteth in the temple of God,(SHEWING himself),,"THAT HE(THE BEAST),,,IS GOD",,,
So examining the things(ACTS) that he(the beast) will do when he comes he will deceive those/them/mankind into believing that he himself(the beast) is the CREATOR/SAVIOR/GOD of all of "creation",,meaning that in the same like manner Christians view "the Father,Son,and Holy Ghost" as the creator,,he(the beast) will convince most of mankind that he is the "SAME GOD WHO PREFORMED THESE ACTS",,,and they will worship him because they believe he did/does.
I say this because if we examine those we try to calculate/match up with this beast we will find that none of them did these (acts),,meaning Adolph Hitler did not say he was the creator/God,nor does/did those who followed him believe that he was the creator/God. The same should be noted of any of the others that man/men have labeled as the (beast) in the past.
In the (o.p.) the manner of thinking is that Appolyon/Abbadon is the same as (THE BEAST) and that Adolph Hitler is the same ect. but in (Rev.9;4),,BEFORE the one called Abbadon/Appolyon comes(rev.9;11) the MARK/666 and the Mark of god has already been received(Rev.9;4),,,so "Appolyon/Abbadon" rises/comes after the two horned beast(rev.13) and after the wounded head(beast) rises(rev.13),,, Abaddon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In (2thess.2;4) the beast "opposeth"(in opposition to) Strong's Greek: 480. ἀντίκειμαι (antikeimai) -- to lie opposite, i.e. oppose, withstand and "exalteth" Strong's Greek: 5312. ὑψόω (hupsoó) -- to lift or raise up, to exalt, uplift "above (all that is called GOD) or that is WORSHIPED",,,So that he(the beast) sitteth in the temple of God,(SHEWING himself),,"THAT HE(THE BEAST),,,IS GOD",,,
So examining the things(ACTS) that he(the beast) will do when he comes he will deceive those/them/mankind into believing that he himself(the beast) is the CREATOR/SAVIOR/GOD of all of "creation",,meaning that in the same like manner Christians view "the Father,Son,and Holy Ghost" as the creator,,he(the beast) will convince most of mankind that he is the "SAME GOD WHO PREFORMED THESE ACTS",,,and they will worship him because they believe he did/does.
I say this because if we examine those we try to calculate/match up with this beast we will find that none of them did these (acts),,meaning Adolph Hitler did not say he was the creator/God,nor does/did those who followed him believe that he was the creator/God. The same should be noted of any of the others that man/men have labeled as the (beast) in the past.
In the (o.p.) the manner of thinking is that Appolyon/Abbadon is the same as (THE BEAST) and that Adolph Hitler is the same ect. but in (Rev.9;4),,BEFORE the one called Abbadon/Appolyon comes(rev.9;11) the MARK/666 and the Mark of god has already been received(Rev.9;4),,,so "Appolyon/Abbadon" rises/comes after the two horned beast(rev.13) and after the wounded head(beast) rises(rev.13),,, Abaddon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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sassylady
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Nope. Apollyon means destroyer. Not saying Husan Hussain (sp?) was the beast but his mother had such a horrible time with the pregnancy she called him a destroyer.
Whoever said Apollyon/Abaddon was one of the Beasts? In fact whoever said Apollyon was a human?
Bible says Apollyon is the angel of the Bottomless Pit. Also Apollyon and the creatures that issue forth from the bottomless pit come before the two Beasts and the mark of the beast. They are given power to torment the wicked that received not the Seal of God given by the goodly angels of God by the grace of God to the 144,000 before the breaking of the Seventh Seal.
EDIT: Though I do agree with you that Hitler was not the Beast nor Apollyon.
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oldthennew
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the meaning might be, that you shouldn't be eating at a 'fast-food' place
because you might get six to your stomach.
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The_highwayman
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lol,,,in the last paragraph I said in the (O.P.),,,is the answer to who said it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and the two horned beast and the beast that has the wound rise "BEFORE" Appolyon/Abaddon,,,not after,,
which is correct but on who? those who worship the beast,have his mark ect. or on those who are sealed with Gods name?
which is correct but on who? those who worship the beast,have his mark ect. or on those who are sealed with Gods name?
its a fairly simple concept,,"IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PLAGUES,VIALS ECT. TO BE POURED OUT ON THOSE WHO WORRSHIP THE IMAGE,RECEIVE THE NAME,RECEIVE HIS MARK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,UNTIL,,,(AFTER HE COMES),,,,
In this case keep reading past that chapter then, the beasts are of the third woe. So all that comes soon after Apollyon and the Fifth Trumpet with the blowing of the Seventh Trumpet.
As for the bowls of wrath, those come after the trumpets indeed.
Yes first the two horned beast comes,,he has the power to give life to the beast that was,was not,yet is,,,,sets up an image of the beast,,,,,,,,,,,,then those on earth are deceived and worship the image and receive the mark,,,,,,,,,and then "AFTER THAT THE PLAGUES ARE POURED OUT ON THOSE WHO RECEIVE THE MARK,WORSHIP HIS IMAGE ECT",,,,,,
but then Appolyon,,,rises after the 7th trumpet(as you said),,,,,,,,,,,"SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT APPOLYON IS THE BEAST,,BECOUSE THE BEAST COMES BEFORE APPOLYON",,,,,,,,,,,,
Actually you I think meant to say ,,,"fifth angel,,after the seventh trumpet",,,,which is right but misworded,,,
you are meaning Saddam Hussein,,,his mother tried to destroy him(by pressing her stomach against a doorpost to cause a miscarriage/abortion) and he was born premature,,,
ha ;-)