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I guess I was asking where do you connect The Sabbath, and the 1000 yr reign, age, etc.

Why do you say never end, but it says 1000 yr reign; what happens after the 1000 years?
6 days (6000 years) man (mankind) was given to do all his work (of the flesh). But the 7th day (1000 years) is the Lord's. IN IT we (mankind) shall do no work (of the flesh)

In the middle of the week the Lord of the Sabbath came to pay as our kinsman redeemer as the law stated. We are now at the close of the 6000 years in which the Sabbath or 1000 year rest will take place. But it will go just as the story in the wilderness taught us. He gave us enough to live on for 2 days (2000 years) but there will be some who will still look for it in the field (by the works of the flesh) God will be wroth with.

This day or 1000 year rest is the ushering in of Christ's reign on earth. This as in Genesis will never end.
 

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6 days (6000 years) man (mankind) was given to do all his work (of the flesh). But the 7th day (1000 years) is the Lord's. IN IT we (mankind) shall do no work (of the flesh)

In the middle of the week the Lord of the Sabbath came to pay as our kinsman redeemer as the law stated. We are now at the close of the 6000 years in which the Sabbath or 1000 year rest will take place. But it will go just as the story in the wilderness taught us. He gave us enough to live on for 2 days (2000 years) but there will be some who will still look for it in the field (by the works of the flesh) God will be wroth with.

This day or 1000 year rest is the ushering in of Christ's reign on earth. This as in Genesis will never end.
Interesting, Where do you get 6000 yrs? And where do you find all this in The Bible? I am honestly curious to read.
 
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Interesting, Where do you get 6000 yrs? And where do you find all this in The Bible? I am honestly curious to read.
A day with the Lord is as 1000 years. This time period began when you notice in Genesis it going from "God" to the "LORD God". It also states that man was to live no more than 120 years. These are jubilee years.

We must take in account our beginning. God made us all on the 6th day and declared it all to be very good. That's how he knew Jeremiah, John, Jacob, Esau, Pharaoh and anyone else you may think of. Now as I stated earlier He rested on the 7th day but it never ended. This was God's plan from the beginning. He insured It by seperating a day apart from which He created the world and blessed it to bring us into the world. He made it a holy day that what was brought about would be holy and blessed also. He made of one lump vessels of honor and dishonor, but if the firstfruits is holy, so is the lump they came from. If Christ is Lord of the Sabbath, then we are children and subjects of the Sabbath as well.
 

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A day with the Lord is as 1000 years. This time period began when you notice in Genesis it going from "God" to the "LORD God". It also states that man was to live no more than 120 years. These are jubilee years.

We must take in account our beginning. God made us all on the 6th day and declared it all to be very good. That's how he knew Jeremiah, John, Jacob, Esau, Pharaoh and anyone else you may think of. Now as I stated earlier He rested on the 7th day but it never ended. This was God's plan from the beginning. He insured It by seperating a day apart from which He created the world and blessed it to bring us into the world. He made it a holy day that what was brought about would be holy and blessed also. He made of one lump vessels of honor and dishonor, but if the firstfruits is holy, so is the lump they came from. If Christ is Lord of the Sabbath, then we are children and subjects of the Sabbath as well.
I'm sorry but I want to know what scripture do you read to conclude all of that. I see what you are saying but I just want to know what verses do you put together.
 
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Psalms 90:4

For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Genesis 6:3

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Leviticus 25:11-13

11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.


12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.


13 In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession.

120 Jubilee years X 50= 6000 years

I won't post too much at one time as I don't have a pre written lesson on this. When you have questions, I will answer with more verses as we go along with your specific questions.
 

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I appreciate your prayer but I can assure you I stand firm in my belief, and I as well pray for you to have spiritual understanding of the what The Word is really saying. No one is denying being born of God, but how can one say we are born of God and not obey his commandments. The scripture I presented earlier clearly states, one who doesn't keep his commandments is a liar. So from scripture I cannot accept what you have presented as the whole truth.
Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

How to walk in the spirit down below

Living by the Spirit

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Galatians 5:22-24

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.


Living by the Spirit has nothing to do with observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years!

this is the only way you can uphold law now.

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh,
but after the Spirit.

This is why it simple, Paul understood this.


1 Corinthians 9;20-21To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law;
to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law.

what is the law of Christ.

God Bless
 
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Sorry about the big caps LEPIDUS

It's the new covenant God promise from long ago.

God bless you and everyone.
 
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Simple- The ten commandments are not the only commandments of the bible- they were just the tip of the iceberg of old testament laws. And the old testament commandments were a shadow of the commandments to come. Whose commandments? The commandments of Christ. Just as Moses had ten commandments that were the start of many, Christ has two commandments that were the start of many. Christ says to (#1) love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. And (#2) love your neighbor as yourself. And that by doing these you automatically fulfill all biblical law- for who is going to steal from or murder someone in the very moment that are loving them? To obey "His" commandments is to obey Christ and not the old law. God the Father told us in His own voice to no longer obey Moses or Elijah (who represent the law and the prophets) but only His Son Jesus Christ (Matthew 17:5, Matthew 28:18, Romans 7:1-4). So in Revelation 22:14 the commandments are different according to whether you lived under the old testament times or in the new testament times.
 

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Psalms 90:4

For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Genesis 6:3

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Leviticus 25:11-13

11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.


12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.


13 In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession.

120 Jubilee years X 50= 6000 years

I won't post too much at one time as I don't have a pre written lesson on this. When you have questions, I will answer with more verses as we go along with your specific questions.
Where do you get 120 Jubilee years?
 

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Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

How to walk in the spirit down below

Living by the Spirit

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Galatians 5:22-24

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.


Living by the Spirit has nothing to do with observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years!

this is the only way you can uphold law now.

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh,
but after the Spirit.

This is why it simple, Paul understood this.


1 Corinthians 9;20-21To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law;
to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law.

what is the law of Christ.

God Bless
Do you think I'm trying to be saved by keeping the Ten Commandments?
 
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Do you know why he said that in that verse?
For to keep track of His time. Every 7 years we are to have a sabbath to the land letting it rest. Counting 7 sabbath years will bring us to 49. The 50th which is the 1st year of the cycle again is the Jubilee year in which all are to be released of all debt and his possessions returned. But man obviously from the start has not obeyed so God set a limit as to how long. The last Jubilee all will be restored.

look at it like the mile markers on a highway.
 

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In Genesis 6:3

This is what is meant by the 120 years. Then His Spirit will no longer contend with man.
Do you know why he said that in that verse?
Genesis 6

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Before this people lived up to 900 yrs etc, after what he saw he decided that they will now only live 120. I don't understand how you connect that with the jubilee etc. I'm sorry either you are not presenting it right or idk, but I don't see how that goes together.
 

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You ask this question earlier in your post to me
It's not pretty simple when we are being disobedient. How can we say we love him and not obey him ?
The Apostles of Jesus Christ, example one of them, Paul a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ taught by the Holyspirit, explain the simple instruction how to obey God in the New Covenant , a true Born again Christian will not continue in disobedient.

The Letter to the Galatians teaches us examples, How God wants us to walk in this life, How to obey Him.

Can i ask who is being disobedient?

God Bless
 
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Genesis 6

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Before this people lived up to 900 yrs etc, after what he saw he decided that they will now only live 120. I don't understand how you connect that with the jubilee etc. I'm sorry either you are not presenting it right or idk, but I don't see how that goes together.
Mark 4

33 And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it.


34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

If He is the author and finisher, then all is parabolic. Adam lived to be over 900 years old, but he died in the day he ate of the tree. Remember a day with The Lord is as 1000 years. Also we learn in Genesis 5 that Adam means mankind both male and female. This empire of man lasted 900 plus years. The MAN Adam that was formed was the story that symbolizes the individual. We all walked with God as babies knowing neither good not evil was naked or simply who we are and was not ashamed.

You have to take the bible in relation to your own life.
 
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If a man chooses so who am I to say otherwise. He knows the consequences of his actions. I wouldnt but I'm not him.
What consequences when one does things in love to an animal as some understands NT and disregards OT?
 

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You ask this question earlier in your post to me

The Apostles of Jesus Christ, example one of them, Paul a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ taught by the Holyspirit, explain the simple instruction how to obey God in the New Covenant , a true Born again Christian will not continue in disobedient.

The Letter to the Galatians teaches us examples, How God wants us to walk in this life, How to obey Him.

Can i ask who is being disobedient?

God Bless
You missed this question.

Do you think I'm trying to be saved by keeping the Ten Commandments?
 
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Originally Posted by LEPIDUS

Where do you get 120 Jubilee years?


In Genesis 6:3

This is what is meant by the 120 years. Then His Spirit will no longer contend with man.
Jubilee is the year following 49 years of servitude, and then everything is forgiven (returned to its rightful owner) related to the "Lords Prayer" "forgive us our debts." It can be related with the 49 days leading up to the 50th day of Pentecost after the feast of weeks. It can be related to the giving of the law at Mount Sinai being the 50th day beginning 49 days at the completion of the feast of unleavened bread. Put it together.
 
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Originally Posted by LEPIDUS

Where do you get 120 Jubilee years?




Jubilee is the year following 49 years of servitude, and then everything is forgiven (returned to its rightful owner) related to the "Lords Prayer" "forgive us our debts." It can be related with the 49 days leading up to the 50th day of Pentecost after the feast of weeks. It can be related to the giving of the law at Mount Sinai being the 50th day beginning 49 days at the completion of the feast of unleavened bread. Put it together.
Have we been released of debt and returned unto our possessions? If not then the shadows are simply another exercise used to teach us to remember. Like Saturday. The 7th day of our week teaches us about the rest coming.