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Skip I have more faith and trust in God than you think. You judge me in that way saying I don't trust God because I will defend my family to the death of me or their assailant? You judge me but you think Jesus turned water into grape juice. You best sit in your chair with your glass of juice and think. We are done here.
When someone attacks your family trying to kill them you fight back with words. I got my .380 or my 9mm. 5 seconds of them shooting at you while you talk good luck. 2.5 seconds for me to draw and shoot on target.
Whoever reads this go on and judge me that's fine. My judge is Jesus! If he sees it at a sin no skin off your back.
When someone attacks your family trying to kill them you fight back with words. I got my .380 or my 9mm. 5 seconds of them shooting at you while you talk good luck. 2.5 seconds for me to draw and shoot on target.
Whoever reads this go on and judge me that's fine. My judge is Jesus! If he sees it at a sin no skin off your back.
I know you're not going to curse God. That's not the point. The point is that she was looking at Job's outward challenge in a physical way and she was not looking at the death of her family and Job's suffering in health and wealth in a spiritual way. In other words, there is no difference between Job's suffering and the suffering of any other believer for the glory of God.
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I'm not sure if anyone else has already commented on this because I don't feel like reading 5 pages of comments in the 5 minutes before I have to go to work but this shows the whole root of what is wrong with supporting war.
"I have no problem with sending human beings straight to hell with my gun or sword."
There is no compassion or love for your enemy. You are in sin and so are all of you that feel this way.
If you want to destroy ISIS, get your Bible and buy a ticket to Iraq and preach Christ until there isn't a sinner left amongst them or your blood is spilled.
If you want to destroy souls and deny your faith, take your gun.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
"I have no problem with sending human beings straight to hell with my gun or sword."
There is no compassion or love for your enemy. You are in sin and so are all of you that feel this way.
If you want to destroy ISIS, get your Bible and buy a ticket to Iraq and preach Christ until there isn't a sinner left amongst them or your blood is spilled.
If you want to destroy souls and deny your faith, take your gun.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
God is either the same forever and always or He's not. God sure didn't mind when Sampson was killing philistines. Or when David slay Goliath. "there is a time for everything." I think the real problem here is most people have one view or another. As if EVERYONE who is trying to hurt someone should be defended against with force or NO ONE who is attacking someone should be defended against with force. There is a time for both. We must trust God to show us which is which.
Was it sinful for me to teach my 9 year old little sister how to defend herself against a grown man? Is it sinful for me to want my children to learn how to defend themselves? It astounds me that anyone could have "God's love" in their heart and would be so callous as to let other people suffer needlessly. If you don't want to defend yourself that's fine, but don't take away other peoples options to defend themselves or their children. Who among you would blame a mother for striking a kidnapper in the face with her purse?
It is not wrong to correct another believer if they are not in line with God's Word (2 Timothy 3:16). For no doubt you didn't have to speak so as not judge that I am wrong. So you see. The Judgment card doesn't really work or apply in this situation. Especially seeing Jesus told us to judge righteous judgment. And are you not judging another when you choose to take their life with a loaded weapon? How exactly is trusting in a carnal weapon faith in God that He can protect you? Do you believe God can protect you? If so, then why do you need the gun?
So much for New Testament pacifism.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
(Rev 19:13-15)
And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
(Rev 19:17-19)
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
(Rev 19:21)
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
(Rev 19:13-15)
And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
(Rev 19:17-19)
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
(Rev 19:21)
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It's a basic teaching of Scripture that the New Testament replaces the Old Testament. Every Christian should know that because Scripture makes that fact abundantly clear. I didn't invent it as per defense of any other particular doctrine. I learned about it thru studying God's Word and by reading at GCI.org (Grace Community International). Type in "gci.org law of moses" into Google and you will be able to read many articles with Scripture on the topic.
Replaced? What replaced the Abrahamic Covenant? Why do I see much OT prophecies yet to be fulfilled in Revelation? Is not all the Tribulation and Millennium prophecies yet to be fulfilled, or were they replaced by the NT?
Replacement is only in the Levitical system/ Law of Moses by Christ.
Replacement is only in the Levitical system/ Law of Moses by Christ.
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I already stated here and in the old thread at TOL that while I am commanded by God to be a pacifist now, I will not be one when I follow Him at His 2nd Coming. As I said before to another poster, if God tells me to stop, I stop and if He tells me to go I go. Besides, I will be returning WITH Christ having lived out my faith already here upon this Earth. In other words, no living believer will be commanded to go to war. Only when we are in spirit form is when we will follow Jesus into battle.
God Will Save Me
A terrible storm came into a town and local officials sent out an emergency warning that the riverbanks would soon overflow and flood the nearby homes. They ordered everyone in the town to evacuate immediately.
A faithful Christian man heard the warning and decided to stay, saying to himself, “I will trust God and if I am in danger, then God will send a divine miracle to save me.”
The neighbors came by his house and said to him, “We’re leaving and there is room for you in our car, please come with us!” But the man declined. “I have faith that God will save me.”
As the man stood on his porch watching the water rise up the steps, a man in a canoe paddled by and called to him, “Hurry and come into my canoe, the waters are rising quickly!” But the man again said, “No thanks, God will save me.”
The floodwaters rose higher pouring water into his living room and the man had to retreat to the second floor. A police motorboat came by and saw him at the window. “We will come up and rescue you!” they shouted. But the man refused, waving them off saying, “Use your time to save someone else! I have faith that God will save me!”
The flood waters rose higher and higher and the man had to climb up to his rooftop.
A helicopter spotted him and dropped a rope ladder. A rescue officer came down the ladder and pleaded with the man, "Grab my hand and I will pull you up!" But the man STILL refused, folding his arms tightly to his body. “No thank you! God will save me!”
Shortly after, the house broke up and the floodwaters swept the man away and he drowned.
When in Heaven, the man stood before God and asked, “I put all of my faith in You. Why didn’t You come and save me?”
And God said, “Son, I sent you a warning. I sent you a car. I sent you a canoe. I sent you a motorboat. I sent you a helicopter. What more were you looking for?”
Taken from Epistle.us/inspiration/godwillsaveme
A terrible storm came into a town and local officials sent out an emergency warning that the riverbanks would soon overflow and flood the nearby homes. They ordered everyone in the town to evacuate immediately.
A faithful Christian man heard the warning and decided to stay, saying to himself, “I will trust God and if I am in danger, then God will send a divine miracle to save me.”
The neighbors came by his house and said to him, “We’re leaving and there is room for you in our car, please come with us!” But the man declined. “I have faith that God will save me.”
As the man stood on his porch watching the water rise up the steps, a man in a canoe paddled by and called to him, “Hurry and come into my canoe, the waters are rising quickly!” But the man again said, “No thanks, God will save me.”
The floodwaters rose higher pouring water into his living room and the man had to retreat to the second floor. A police motorboat came by and saw him at the window. “We will come up and rescue you!” they shouted. But the man refused, waving them off saying, “Use your time to save someone else! I have faith that God will save me!”
The flood waters rose higher and higher and the man had to climb up to his rooftop.
A helicopter spotted him and dropped a rope ladder. A rescue officer came down the ladder and pleaded with the man, "Grab my hand and I will pull you up!" But the man STILL refused, folding his arms tightly to his body. “No thank you! God will save me!”
Shortly after, the house broke up and the floodwaters swept the man away and he drowned.
When in Heaven, the man stood before God and asked, “I put all of my faith in You. Why didn’t You come and save me?”
And God said, “Son, I sent you a warning. I sent you a car. I sent you a canoe. I sent you a motorboat. I sent you a helicopter. What more were you looking for?”
Taken from Epistle.us/inspiration/godwillsaveme
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