To claim the title/label of Christian means you openly follow Christ as your Lord and Savior. A homosexual Christian is an oxymoron. 1 Corinthians 6:9 says no effeminate man or a man who practices homosexuality (even through lust in his heart) will inherit the kingdom. A New Creation... Joy Peace RIGHTEOUSNESS in the holy spirit is the matter of the kingdom of God. born again. baptised symbolizing the washing away of the old, carnal minded nature is gone. The power of the Holy spirit transforms the condition of the heart to being new and nothing like the old ways and habits. To believe there is a God, to believe there is Jesus who is God, that's one thing -- even the demons beleive and shutter as james wrote. But to merely believe does not make one Christian. people weren't even called chrsitains until antioch in the book of Acts. There is no such thing as a christian who struggles with homosexuality. that would be a goat or worse, a possible wolf spirit. wolves are hungry after the flesh. romans 1 is clear about those who God turned men over to lust after the unnatural thing... they BeLIEVED the lie instead of the truth. instead of believing in the truth of God, they choose to entertain the lustful emotions of their wicked flesh. if a homosexual had a real experience with God, and the fear of teh Lord was revealed to him, that would be cleansing enough from the unclean spirit of homosexuality in him, and he would be a christian without the desires of the flesh. the scripture is clear, that those who's mind is after the flesh walk in the condemnation, but there is no condemnation for those who walk after the Spirit. Spirit gives birth to spirit. Born again means the Spirit generated a spiritual minded believer. born again is not a process. born again means one has started over again. backslidding those is a different story alltoether, it means you've walked away from the grace and salvation of God. to backslide into homosexuality means you wren't really a christian. as john said, the children of the devil are those who continue to sin. but those of god have the love of the father in them, and then sin no longer. my whole issue here is the matter of a christian struggling with homosexual behavior. i'm not joel osteen, i don't accept homosexuals for who they are because that's NOT who they are. homosexuals believe it is who they are, their identity. but who they are as a person isn't defined by mere sexual inward burning. we are all sexual humans by nature, but our identity is whoremonger or prostitute or luster. the issue of identity is different from the issue of sexuality. i accept people as they are, as humans created in the image of God, that jesus died for them. but i do not accept homosexual believers. if we just stayed strict about this issue and not be cowardly in our trying to reach out to the homosexual community, then there would be a fear of god that isn't muddied and watered down. homosexuals greatest demon is PRIDE and they know the power of their Pride. they don't see or care to know that their pride is also their downfall. if christians actually preached the fear of the lord and didn't waver in their message, and if christians didn't try and make the fear of the lord this comfy good feeling message like "the fear of god is not actual fear, it's "reverence" and if they actually looked at the word there FEAR for what it is, then we would be given an anointing to preach the fear of god with power rather than empty it with our words of eloquence and crafty sermons and washed up theology. god loves all people. he died for all people. but gods wrath is poured out on sons of disobedence. that's what it is, its a matter of disobedience, of rebellion. stiff-necked rebellion... PRidE... john wrote: the pride of life, the lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh... those who operate in the flesh do not have the love of the father in them. let's stop being sympathetic towards homosexuals, and lets start being empathetic, putting ourselves in their shoes, thinking that they will go to hell forever if no one preaches not only love, but truth. no body likes to be called wrong. but if no one points out what is wrong about someone's behavior, their concious will never question their activities. just because we can't reach a homosexual in the moment we talk to them about god, doesn't mean we failed. we have sown a seed. men water and sow seeds, but God is the one who brings the increase. speaking the truth in the fruit of the spirit is enough to rebuke, reproove,correct and train in righteousness. TOLERATION is the the new black. It is the spirit of compromise that affects us sickly. we're not here to hurt people, but we're here to bring the word of light, and if it be offensive to them, it's between them and god. we're just the messengers tthat care about their souls... wow, i think the Spirit just used me lol