Michelle Obama admits Barak's home country is Kenya
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When you're prepared to offer something of substance, try again. The overwhelming consensus isn't lying for the sake of a political agenda they believe in, and an extremely small handful of career experts and a Lt. Colonel whose relevant experience is negligible to nonexistent doesn't cut the cake. You've yet to refute the contemporaneous newspaper listings indicating Obama's birth in Hawaii, the OCR explanation concerning the video you posted earlier that you've abandoned after an earlier refutation I made of his flawed techniques and assumptions, or the fact that image editing software can easily be made to replicate the effects shown in the video.
You're making a broad, sweeping, and insubstantive series of allegations that, again, have absolutely no value whatsoever under scrutiny -- in particular, the false notion a broad body of experts disagree with the official account. Here's the general outline of your style of argumentation.
"Look! An irrefutable-and-totally-impartial-video-claiming-X-in-a-shocking-new-video! Will-blow-your-pants-off! Must-view! What's that? The overall consensus disagrees? They're all sheeple! None of them believe the overall consensus because there's a compelling reason to do so -- they're all politically in line with the evil government! Here's a link citing another shocking video! Do you honestly believe these experts would be lying? They're experts! They don't lie! Therefore, X is true!"
I'm not mocking you. That's exactly how you're coming across. You're simply not being critical enough, and you're again far too inclined to put stock into tabloid Newsmax-style nonsense.
I don't have all of the answers Liza, I do know that the man in the video where he puts it in adobe is legit, he shows you step for step everything he is doing, it's not some con. The second video I posted is a Physics teacher and he will use basic physics to prove to you the facts you don't want to accept. The physics teacher is completely irrefutable. Check it out..
Interesting because I feel that's how you are coming across. You can't watch that physics teacher for 55 minutes and not know for a fact that the official story is a lie. If you still believe it's a lie you are in no way interested in truth. The author of the webpage you posted is a nobody. He is a self proclaimed "computer guy" for 20 years. He is nobody and in the same breath you dismiss a forensic document examiner. That's very far from tabloid newsmax nonsense.
I don't understand how you can sincerely believe that I shouldn't feel there is something fishy going on when I have a LT Colonel, an adobe expert and a forensic document examiner all saying something is wrong.. Of course we should dig deeper.
He tried to debunk the PDF copy of Obama's birth certificate for nearly half an hour using a demonstrably flawed method that can be replicated by anyone. In short, he made a bad mistake through poor oversight, and his claims -- and different manifestations of it -- have been dismissed by the general consensus.
Anyway, I'd rather hug and make up than continue to dispute this.
You can do a lot of damage in 2 years, but that is beside the point.
My conclusion is, you can attempt thrust your superiority upon the participants of this thread by transforming into a walking thesaurus. You could be a redneck from the deep South. However, it takes little for anyone to realize how corrupt the government system is. This includes the president. It doesn't matter how you look at it, to be blunt, we're going to Hades in a hand-basket. Obama HAS contributed to the cause in multiple areas. He has not been upright from the start. No matter where he was born or where he lived, he should not have been elected into office. The statistics do not lie about how the unemployment rates have escalated, or how awful Common Core is. I could list a slew of things, but that would take a while.
What I would like to know is, how in any way is debating over this productive? Evidently, no one has transformed the other person's viewpoint.
We are all going to believe whatever we believe, however foolish it seems, and we'll be firmly set in it.
I do believe that debating on the internet is counterproductive and a waste of time. There are better things to do in this life. I stopped wasting my time doing silly theological and political debates a long time ago, and I feel much better.
My conclusion is, you can attempt thrust your superiority upon the participants of this thread by transforming into a walking thesaurus. You could be a redneck from the deep South. However, it takes little for anyone to realize how corrupt the government system is. This includes the president. It doesn't matter how you look at it, to be blunt, we're going to Hades in a hand-basket. Obama HAS contributed to the cause in multiple areas. He has not been upright from the start. No matter where he was born or where he lived, he should not have been elected into office. The statistics do not lie about how the unemployment rates have escalated, or how awful Common Core is. I could list a slew of things, but that would take a while.
What I would like to know is, how in any way is debating over this productive? Evidently, no one has transformed the other person's viewpoint.
We are all going to believe whatever we believe, however foolish it seems, and we'll be firmly set in it.
I do believe that debating on the internet is counterproductive and a waste of time. There are better things to do in this life. I stopped wasting my time doing silly theological and political debates a long time ago, and I feel much better.
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You're back! I knew you wouldn't stay away. CC now has you. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
Probably a poor choice of diction on Michelle Obama's part, but nothing more. Despite incredulous, shamelessly obvious forgeries and dubious legal claims concerning Barack's father, there's really no substantive evidence whatsoever that he was born in Kenya, or elsewhere -- or that he lost his citizenship soon after being born after Hawaii.
Birther conspiracies...
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Lol you know this clip is taken from the White House Correspondant's Dinner, an American tradition whereupon a famous comedian is hired to "roast" the President in front of the American media followed by a short comedic act by the President.
No, I wasn't aware of the festivities surrounding the Correspondant's dinner. You're right he definitely said that on purpose.
Yea, I have noticed a lot of the Obama Conspiracies of many different flavors often err by taking clips from the Correspondent's Dinner as serious. It's not quite fit for this website, but in my opinion the Dinner hosted by Jimmy Kimmel was the best, I still watch it from time to time for a laugh. President Obama himself is not too bad of a joker, his comedy has noticeably gotten better over the years.
The other famous joke night of American politics is the Alfred E. Smith Dinner hosted every four years between the Presidential Debates wherein the two mainstream Party Candidates roast eachother. I am very much against John McCain politically, but I must say he may have the most witty sense of humor in Washington.
Both the White House Correspondent's Dinner and the Alfred E. Smith Dinners of the past can be easily found on youtube if anyone is in need of a laugh.
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Then I guess the doctor who helped deliver him into this world is a fake also. The doctor verified that he helped with the deliver of Barack Obama and signed the paper(s) in Honolulu, Hawaii.
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Two for the road... what can it hurt:
leave it to your amazing sense of decorum to escalate things far more than necessary. Are you just going to post mangled remains of human bodies next? That seems the next step on your level of classiness.
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It's OK with me if our humor is disparate. But the irony here is that there's absolutely nothing classy in this post of yours... lol.
As for the Obomination, it's true that I'm counting the days until the lying usurper who pretended to be a genuine committed Christian in order to deceive the electorate to progress his political career and gain the white house from which he has spewed forth a flood of immoral anti-Christ ungodliness all over the nation is out of office.
"When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, But when a wicked man rules, people groan." -Proverbs 29:2
As for the Obomination, it's true that I'm counting the days until the lying usurper who pretended to be a genuine committed Christian in order to deceive the electorate to progress his political career and gain the white house from which he has spewed forth a flood of immoral anti-Christ ungodliness all over the nation is out of office.
"When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, But when a wicked man rules, people groan." -Proverbs 29:2
We may have known, but there was no way to prove.
If there was a way to prove we wouldn't be in this horrible situation we are now.
Just know God will maketh a way for when there seemeth to be no way.
God bless all! Be praying for America and all it's surrounding countries.
If there was a way to prove we wouldn't be in this horrible situation we are now.
Just know God will maketh a way for when there seemeth to be no way.
God bless all! Be praying for America and all it's surrounding countries.
To be fair its pretty sad the voters think they are picking a pastor instead of a president and base political opinions on their own sets of belief.
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To be fair, it's very sad that a candidate for the presidency had such poor character that he blatantly lied to the electorate to get elected and afterwards used the highest political office in the land to spew forth a stream of immoral, unholy, ungodliness in diametrical contradiction of a magnitude never before been seen from that office.
But what's even sadder than that, are people like yourself who put him into office again. Nothing good comes from deceiving oneself that a person's character and beliefs are unimportant to leadership roles and that it's unimportant when leaders (in any capacity and domain) use their position to spew forth a stream of immoral, unholy, ungodliness and work earnestly to mislead people and the domains under their authority away from the one true Creator God.
But what's even sadder than that, are people like yourself who put him into office again. Nothing good comes from deceiving oneself that a person's character and beliefs are unimportant to leadership roles and that it's unimportant when leaders (in any capacity and domain) use their position to spew forth a stream of immoral, unholy, ungodliness and work earnestly to mislead people and the domains under their authority away from the one true Creator God.