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Apostol2013

Apostol2013

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Churchianity (uncountable)

1. (pejorative) Any practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life or the institutional traditions of the church than on theology and spiritual teachings; The quality of being too church-focused.
 
churchianity is a real serious problem . especially here in America it is putting an emphasis more on tradition rather thain our spiritual deph it is putting more emphasis on the temple than in our living holy and honoring God truly as he should be honoured or even worshipped as he should be worshipped , a to have the truth living in you , a mere confession will not help you unless you repent . because upon calling on the name Jesus and believing on the cross you have to leave him that he has made you righteous and this believing if you believe you will walk and you would learn to live as God intended you to live for Jesus said if you swear by the gifts and you're guilty of the gift because you have sworn by the gift but the one who honors the gift is the one who should the honored what is higher the gift for the temple or the one who sanctifies the temple in this we need to wake up is the Christianity that you practice. the Christianity of the Bible that the apostle's is that Christ has taught us through His Holy Word . wether is the Christianity that you practice really churchianity . A establishment made on your own precepts or on tradition ? are you living spiritual who are you living to the flesh . are you living for God or are you living for the devil for your pleasures ? these are all good questions we should be asking ourselves daily always examine ourselves putting ourselves to check that we should be living holy for God that we should be worshiping God as he ought to be worshipped. that we are acknowledging God by believing every word spoken to us through the Holy Ghost there was two roads is the narrow path and there's the broad path narrow is the path that leads to everlasting life many will try but you will find it broad is the path that leads to destruction but today take time and think should be we worshiping God is we are to where shall we meet severs of ourselves when one lives to their own pleasures showing no reverence for God's holiness we are not professing truth but instead are professing being agents of the dark one when we have truth in holiness we are living and showing mercy upon me . it is important to have mercy upon others for this is what Christ mandates from us that we love one another that we bear each other's burdens my dear brothers I hurt you to live a holy life Sycamore you still can that you know the real Jesus not the Hollywood Jesus, not the Jesus of your own imagination but the real Jesus the one that came to take away sin , the Lamb of God.
 
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Apostol2013, who is it that you think is guilty of being too church-focused.

Seems to me, that the people who complain about churchianity are too focused on being part of the world.
 
It is not an acusation it is a message of self examination ,as for my walk i am sure on my foundation but the focus is to correction of ourselves , i myself examine myself daily to become a better person each and everyday but tge real power to this is the word of God and the Holy Ghost , this is the message God has me deliver to all
 
I have to say this going to church is nice and God said "don't forsake the gathering..." but going to church doesn't make you a better Christian or religious person. It is who we are in Christ and how we represent him that make us Christians. There are some Christians that go to church every week, and as soon as the work day started they become someone else and act as if they are not even Christians or they have never been to church.
 
Apostol2013 said:
Churchianity (uncountable)

1. (pejorative) Any practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life or the institutional traditions of the church than on theology and spiritual teachings; The quality of being too church-focused.
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Is this a real word and definition? I never heard it before but I like it.

Nicee said:
I have to say this going to church is nice and God said "don't forsake the gathering..." but going to church doesn't make you a better Christian or religious person. It is who we are in Christ and how we represent him that make us Christians. There are some Christians that go to church every week, and as soon as the work day started they become someone else and act as if they are not even Christians or they have never been to church.
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It's a shame isn't it.
 
elf3 said:
Is this a real word and definition? I never heard it before but I like it.



It's a shame isn't it.
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it is a real word ,belive it or read it , yes it is a real shame when personal perception or secular perception becomes their u derstanding . This is the test of our belief in the word of God do we trust His word or do we trust our own sight ( flesh )
 
I have to say, I get tired of all the church bashing on this site. Are churches perfect? No, because they are filled with sinners. But I love my fellowship and enjoy every time we gather for study, worship, prayer and fellowship. My church is an encouragement - spiritually, emotionally and even physically.

If you all can't find a fellowship like this, then start your own. God wants us to meet together -- study His Word together, sing His praises together, pray together, and encourage each other in these difficult times.

Stop complaining about it, and get out there and fix it.
 
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I have to say, I get tired of all the church bashing on this site. Are churches perfect? No, because they are filled with sinners. But I love my fellowship and enjoy every time we gather for study, worship, prayer and fellowship. My church is an encouragement - spiritually, emotionally and even physically.

If you all can't find a fellowship like this, then start your own. God wants us to meet together -- study His Word together, sing His praises together, pray together, and encourage each other in these difficult times.

Stop complaining about it, and get out there and fix it.
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A lot of it is western individualism. Modern people, mainly in the west, are very self focused and without a sense of true community. So our brand of a Christianity becomes very self focused as a result and community and fellowship becomes downgraded. People in this day and age have a lot more difficulty forming deep bonds with others and learning to compromise and be patient with other's weaknesses and foibles. As a result we have a high divorce rate and we don't want to go to church because the people at our church aren't perfect. When a relationship gets too hard we tend to bolt, whether it's a spouse or a church. There are Chinese Christians who risk being jailed for meeting in fellowship, and yet many American Christians don't want to bother with church.
 
santuzza said:
I have to say, I get tired of all the church bashing on this site. Are churches perfect? No, because they are filled with sinners. But I love my fellowship and enjoy every time we gather for study, worship, prayer and fellowship. My church is an encouragement - spiritually, emotionally and even physically.

If you all can't find a fellowship like this, then start your own. God wants us to meet together -- study His Word together, sing His praises together, pray together, and encourage each other in these difficult times.

Stop complaining about it, and get out there and fix it.
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skipp said:
A lot of it is western individualism. Modern people, mainly in the west, are very self focused and without a sense of true community. So our brand of a Christianity becomes very self focused as a result and community and fellowship becomes downgraded. People in this day and age have a lot more difficulty forming deep bonds with others and learning to compromise and be patient with other's weaknesses and foibles. As a result we have a high divorce rate and we don't want to go to church because the people at our church aren't perfect. When a relationship gets too hard we tend to bolt, whether it's a spouse or a church. There are Chinese Christians who risk being jailed for meeting in fellowship, and yet many American Christians don't want to bother with church.
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Bingo! You guys got it.

For every person that thinks they can bash on certain churches for the faults in their doctrines or ministries or the people there, they should realize that as sinful and fleshly people, we are just as faulty in our own lives as we think we are.
 
i fully agree with many on this issue of self perception over true christianity , true christianity is about love seeing a sick brother and helping him out , in many cases i like using the example of a sick recovering person trying to learn basic motor skills to reasoning and in many cases this is like parenting , we are primarily to be prime examples in every aspect and function and be aware that there are eyes and ears allways watching ,and there is going to be someone spiritually weaker looking up to you and even though they are suppose to keep their eyes set on God alone , this is the case in most places , when one is not being a prime example the eyes of the persons watching may lose hope and go astray .1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 1Jn 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
1Jn 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
1Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jn 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. spiritual murder happens when one lives a carnal life , and these are not living in the love of christ and if we are not gathering but spreading abroad and jesus said he that does not help him gather in against him .they find themselves enemies of God
 
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First off, not all people who believe themselves to be Christians "are". Even though there is no question that they "BELIEVE" they are Christians, and they "Appear" to be doing exactly as other Christians "Appear" to be doing. Those who say to Jesus, "Lord, Lord ..." at the end of Matthew, for example.

The issue is the definition of a Christian. Jesus said, As you go:

1.) Make "Disciples"
2.) Baptize "Disciples"
3.) Teach "Disciples"

TO OBEY

ALL

THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU.

If you add to that that: "The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch." And you have the scriptural definition of a "Christian", and of a "Christian" church. If you are not doing ALL of these things, as a habit and way of life, then I question your being a Christian based on Christ's definition. If you only teach "some" of the commandments, or add and subtract some exchanging traditions and beliefs of men for the commandments of God, then, again, perhaps the "Christian" part is in question.


Does this meant that there are churches with perfect doctrines and beliefs, or even individuals with perfect doctrines and beliefs? No. But they have established biblical guidelines for dealing with the differences, they have tolerance for issues that are non-essential, and are open to publically debating and covering heresies so that the church can see and hear the truth based on all of the passages that might apply.

The question is not what our definitions of words, concepts, terms ... are. The question is, what does the word of God say and mean, and how does that fit with all that God has said, done, not said and not done ... for example, if we have created a sin that God doesn't believe is sin, and godly people in scripture do not believe is a sin, and thus it is a teaching of men being taught as a commandment of God, then Godly men will seemingly violate it, God will seem to be ignoring "sin", and will seem inconsistent, and/or God might seem to be actually participating in sin Himself, or giving commandments that seemingly allow for sin. There are many such things that are almost universal in the "Christian" churches today.
 
santuzza said:
I have to say, I get tired of all the church bashing on this site. Are churches perfect? No, because they are filled with sinners. But I love my fellowship and enjoy every time we gather for study, worship, prayer and fellowship. My church is an encouragement - spiritually, emotionally and even physically.

If you all can't find a fellowship like this, then start your own. God wants us to meet together -- study His Word together, sing His praises together, pray together, and encourage each other in these difficult times.

Stop complaining about it, and get out there and fix it.
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That is what we are trying to do!! But we have to see what is broken before we can work at fixing it.

When illness came to me so I had only scripture, no church, I found my church was not following scripture. I then went to the history of the first 500 years of our church to find out why this happened and how it happened. It happened because early churches said Paul told them not to listen to Torah. I went to Paul in tears even, asking him. I did battle with myself for months. I knew Paul, Christ, the Father, and Moses all spoke with the same voice and it was up to me to see how they agreed with each other and it took me a long time to find out truth. Truth is found in their agreement. Because Christ made many things better so there was a change, it is not easy to trace each change and find the harmony of the Lord.

Early church Fathers have inserted traditions instead of truth, we are still following them. It is a long, hard road back to God. If you read the book of Ezra it lays out what we need to do, for that shows a people bringing worship back to Torah, High Priest, and temple worship. Our High Priest is Christ, our temple is within us not in a building, but the book of Ezra is a blue print of the way back for us today. They were given rituals for guidance, we are given a better Holy Spirit to guide us, but we are to follow the same path using what we have today.
 
i made this thread not to church bash but to bring to light the issues at hand and to see a better way to understand and make order of things , when moses was revealed the torah , the tablets of stone it was a revelation from heaven ,from God to man everything revealed to moses was an exact replica of the things moses saw in heaven ,the very law delivered to moses at the hands of angels was a model of the original law as in the day of creation when God created the heavens and the earth God had alraedy an pre established purpose for man and Christ was the builder and creator establishing all laws , the very first laws still stand today and are seen by all human eyes throughout all ages , God had set the standards in what and how we must live man was made in the image of God and His likeness not just in apearance but in similar aspects that was even given the Lordship over the earth and was created to live forever ( Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: ) because the will of the Father is that we should receive eternal life through Jesus our Christ . not of our own works but by christ in faith wich establishes all righteousness to them that believe .for the power of the cross establishes true faith to them that recognize and cling to Him wich is holy that as they die to themselves become a new creation in all righteousness of the spirit that is forever established on eternal things . the Christ jesus did away with the ordinances of commandments laws that made to cease the sacrifices and oblations that we should be free once and for all as christ paid the full price of sin that no more rituals or sacrifices should be offered according to law but never disanulling principles the very commandments of God allways wanted for us by living in His spirit and establishing a true faith
 
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