Romans 3:23King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
It little bit complicated. I don't know if baby include.
It look unreasonable, new born baby die go to hell.
It is unreasonable for an innocent baby to be condemned to hell for simply being born. It is a wicked doctrine.
God is not the vindictive tyrant that such a belief entails. Babies are innocent and are not condemned. It is human beings who invent these kind of notions, no doubt under the influence of dark spiritual forces.
That people uphold such blatant evil doctrines is proof positive that they themselves are devoid of any concept of righteousness and justice. There people assert the love and justice of God and yet teach the opposite of it.
It is by this attitude that people like John Calvin could uphold the burning alive of people he deemed to be heretics all in the name of God. Michael Servetus being a famous example...
Calvin wanted to show himself as firm in defense of Christian orthodoxy as his usual opponents. "He was forced to push the condemnation of Servetus with all the means at his command."
Michael Servetus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christian's outside the common religious system have been persecuted by religious people ever since the church began. Remember it was the Pharisees back in Jerusalem who had Jesus put to death. It wasn't the atheists, it was the religious people.
Here is another example of what perverted doctrines lead people to do. Martin Luther wrote this in 1525...
Pure devilry is urging on the peasants…Therefore let all who are able, mow them down, slaughter and stab them, openly or in secret, and remember that there is nothing more poisonous, noxious and utterly devilish than a rebel. You must kill him as you would a mad dog; if you do not fall upon him, he will fall upon you and the whole land.
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The authorities must resolve to chastise and slay as long as they can raise a finger. Thou O God, must judge and act. It may be that those who are killed on the side of the authorities is really a martyr in God’s cause. A happier death no man could die. The present time is so strange that a prince can gain Heaven easier by spilling blood than by praying.
The Facts About Luther, Patrick F. O'Hare, 1916, pages 236-237
books.google.com/books?id=ndoPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236
These folks could all be "holier than thou" one moment and then the next "wicked and evil." Just like the Pharisees of old. They had a form of godliness on the outside but internally were wicked.
Martin Luther invented "faith alone" where he disconnected "purity of heart" from salvation whereby he was able to teach that salvation was purely positional and basically a cloaked state for ongoing wickedness ("God adorning dung" was how he explained it). Martin Luther was the father of the reformation and pastors quote from him in their sermons and admire him greatly.
The false teachers all use Romans 3:23 as a proof text for universal sinfulness of all mankind (including babies) and for perpetually ongoing sin. Yet what is that verse actually teaching?
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
We have indeed all fallen short of the glory of God.
1. We are born into a corrupt world.
2. We are all born in an ignorant state.
3. We are born neither righteous nor unrighteous but subject to the natural passion of the flesh.
3. We are born with an instinct of self preservation.
Thus we are all born undefiled and pure but ignorant and selfish basically in an animal state. There can be no sin (in the sense of rebellion) without knowledge of right doing and thus no guilt can be imputed. God is not unjust where He would demand condemnation for not doing that which one is unable to do. That is common sense and that is justice.
As a child's intellect develops they become aware of law. Both the law of conscience and law of statute. It is in the violation of law that sin is empowered to kill and bring condemnation. This is what Paul teaches here...
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Babies are alive without the law. It is only when the child reaches a certain age that the command comes (due to reason, conscience and guidance) and it is sin which takes occasion by the commandment deceives and kills.
This is what happened in the garden with Adam and Eve. They were both in an innocent state ignorant of the knowledge of good and evil. They were given a prohibition. Eve was then deceived by Satan into thinking that the consequences of violating the prohibition were not true. Eve was then drawn to violate the prohibition by the natural passions of her flesh and due to being deceived she sinned. Adam then likewise followed his wife's example because he loved her more than God.
They then both found themselves cut off from a direct relationship with God and thus alone and naked, in which they were ashamed. They had also become aware of good and evil. They had sold themselves into the kingdom of Satan via yielding themselves to Satan's methodology. Satan was challenging God's justice (just like in Job).
The similar thing happens to all those who have been born since them. The difference though is that we are not born walking with God, we are born into a sinful world subject to the natural passions. Adam and Eve were created subject to natural passions but walking with God. Thus they fell.
We are fallen in the sense that we are born into Satan's kingdom but NOT SOLD TO IT. We only sell ourselves into it when we first sin. That is when we spiritually die. Until that time we are still right with God, just not walking with God due to our ignorance.
Jesus redeems mankind from Satan's kingdom by putting a claim upon all those who will repent and abide in His methodology, repudiating the methodology of Satan.
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
You see Jesus came to demonstrate the righteousness of God in a flesh body. Jesus came to draw all men unto Himself that they may believe in Him and abide in His methodology which is simply the "Spirit of His life." We are redeemed through abiding in that Spirit, a state we enter into via repentance and faith. Jesus purchased a people from slavery to sin and God is just in mercifully forgiving those people of their past sins because they have forsaken Satan's kingdom and come under the governorship of His Son. Therefore they are not going to treat God's mercy as a license to sin.
Really think about these things and study diligently the scriptures.
Original Sin, babies condemned, flesh being sinful, Jesus being punishes as a substitute so sinners can keep sinning without condemnation are all satanic doctrines which destroy what the Bible actually teaches.
The wolves will quote isolated portions of the Bible but you will always notice that they argue in favour of sin. Bottom line is they reject heart purity in salvation and uphold ongoing wickedness in salvation. Don't believe it? Ask them.
Ask these wolves if a child molester has to stop molesting children BEFORE God will forgive them. That question peels back the deception.