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There must be a veil over your eyes, or you are just not studying the Bible. The Scripture is so clear, I don't see how anyone could misunderstand it. This isn't a Seventh-Day Adventist or E.G. White teaching. NOTHING BUT KING JAMES BIBLE.

1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
1 Samuel 15:24 "And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice."

This is the Bible's definition of sin. Breaking the Law. This is the problem, not the Law itself. Everyone is running around here saying that the Law is this wicked thing, that we can't be saved by keeping it. Noone is saying that salvation comes through the Law. When you are saved by the blood of Christ, you obey the Law of God out of love for your salvation. Clear Bible teaching.

Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."

Now plug in the definition of sin back into the verse. This is how the Bible interprets itself.

Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their transgression of the law."

So, how can the LORD save you from breaking His Law if you reject obedience unto it? Christ, in His infinite knowledge, made this statement about "Christians" who do this exact thing:

Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Who are the only people on earth who call Jesus "Lord"? Christians. So here we have people who profess Jesus Christ as Lord claiming to prophesy in His name, cast out devils in His name, and do many wonderful works in His name. Yet, because they continued to "work iniquity", He says He never knew them. Only those Christians who do the will of the Father will enter heaven.

What is the will of God? What does it mean to "know the Lord"? What is iniquity?

Psalm 40:8 "I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart."
1 John 2:3-4 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
Nehemiah 4:5 "And cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee: for they have provoked thee to anger before the builders." (one of many verses showing this)

So, the will of God is His Law within our heart. Knowing Jesus is keeping His commandments. Iniquity is sin, and sin is transgression of the Law. Lets fill in the Bible's definition back into the text. This isn't verbatim, but this is the Bible once again telling us what it is saying.

Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that hath in His heart the law of my Father, which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you because ye kept not my commandments: depart from me, ye that transgress the law."

I could list a thousand other verses, with only the Bible filling in the gaps. No denomination, "cult", or personal opinion. ONLY THE KING JAMES BIBLE. Sadly, the response of many, instead of looking at what it is saying, will reject what the LORD has inspired through His Word. They will say all kinds of things that go directly against the Word, and even quote Scripture to do it.

Let us take heed to this next text.

Matthew 7:13-14 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

The way to destruction is broad, and many go in that way. The way to life is narrow, and few find it. With this being understood, how is it possible that the multitudes of Christians in the world that reject the Law of God will be saved? In a previous verse, we read that "many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord," however, He will reject them. Only a few find life, yet it is only a few proclaiming actual Bible truths. This should be an alarm going off real loud for those paying attention.

I say all of this because the LORD desires all to be sanctified (notice I didn't say justified) through obedience unto Him. It is my fervent prayer that even 1 person will have their eyes opened, and will make a decision to follow God according to what He says instead of the doctrines of men.

God Bless
 
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I gag when i read your post, nothing but bitterness, hate, and oh so many other negative vibe. You keep bringing her up just read something from her already.
Let me tell you something, mister. I've gone to their church, sat at their vegetarian tables, been around them for years. I have seen some horrible self righteousness and prejudice against, literally, the children of Satan Sunday worshipers they express in private. I've known Adventists who keep Ellen White's book on their bedside tables, not a Bible in sight. Maybe you should get off your high horse and deign not to lecture me as to what I know or don't know, thank you. Also, as to who's bitter, as always, it's your fangs showing over any exposure of the truth. You don't move my blood pressure one point.
 
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Howz about something from Jesus Himself concerning the Sabbath?

Matthew 11:28-30 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

It would also do the physicians and pharmacists some good to take heed to the above passage before worrying about which day not to work.
3 verses from Jesus, which in context of the entire chapter have nothing to do with the Sabbath, will negate the entire testimony of the Word? How do you convince yourself of such things?

God Bless
 
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Let me tell you something, mister. I've gone to their church, sat at their vegetarian tables, been around them for years. I have seen some horrible self righteousness and prejudice against, literally, the children of Satan Sunday worshipers they express in private. I've known Adventists who keep Ellen White's book on their bedside tables, not a Bible in sight. Maybe you should get off your high horse and deign not to lecture me as to what I know or don't know, thank you. Also, as to who's bitter, as always, it's your fangs showing over any exposure of the truth. You don't move my blood pressure one point.
It is unfortunate that you witnessed such things from followers of Christ. If you witnessed the same thing from a Baptist, Methodist or Pentecostal, would you attack them with such animosity as you have the Seventh-Day Adventists?

God Bless
 

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I don't think that the Lord meant that our yoke would be made easier if we ignored the things God had to say about the one day in the week He made Holy for us. God blessed that day for our benefit, meaning us to have a day different from our everyday tasks and spent in love---our family, our God, our church. Christ said that if someone needed help on that day, it wasn't honoring that day or Him to not give that help, and through Christ we learn that it isn't the letter of the law we need, it is the heart and spirit of the law we need.
You don't think....?
I gave Jesus' words, what do you think of His words concerning coming to Him for rest?
 

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AN OBSERVER OF TIMES
GAL.4
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them
which by nature are no gods.[9] But now, after that ye have known God,
or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly
elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
[10] YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS.
[11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Its speaking of those who observe times,
says nothing about sabbaths or feast days.

DEUT.18
[9] When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee,
thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his
daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination,
OR AN OBSERVER OF TIMES, or an enchanter, or a witch,
[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wizard, or a necromancer.

2 CHR.33
[3] For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father
had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves,
and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.
[4] Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof
the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.
[5] And he built altars for all the host of heaven in
the two courts of the house of the LORD.
[6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom:
ALSO HE OBSERVED TIMES, and used enchantments, and used
witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards:
he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger

Enchantments, witchcraft, familiar spirits, and wizards.
Its speaking of the occult. Not following sabbath days.
LEV.19
[26] Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
neither shall ye use enchantment, NOR OBSERVE TIMES.
[27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
[28] Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
[29] Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.
[30] YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

You shall not observe times, BUT you shall keep my sabbaths, so says the Lord.
 

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Let me tell you something, mister. I've gone to their church, sat at their vegetarian tables, been around them for years. I have seen some horrible self righteousness and prejudice against, literally, the children of Satan Sunday worshipers they express in private. I've known Adventists who keep Ellen White's book on their bedside tables, not a Bible in sight. Maybe you should get off your high horse and deign not to lecture me as to what I know or don't know, thank you. Also, as to who's bitter, as always, it's your fangs showing over any exposure of the truth. You don't move my blood pressure one point.

I already told you I am female, and i really don't care what you've done or who you've interacted with. The the post you have made are more than enough for me to know the type of person you are. Glad you noticed my fangs (sarcasm)And yes i know i don't move your blood pressure apparently egw does.
 

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3 verses from Jesus, which in context of the entire chapter have nothing to do with the Sabbath, will negate the entire testimony of the Word? How do you convince yourself of such things?

God Bless
Three verses? One should have been enough...

Hebrews 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

And it has everything to do with the Sabbath...our rest thru Christ...

Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 4:1-3 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said,
As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
 

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Three verses? One should have been enough...

Hebrews 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

And it has everything to do with the Sabbath...our rest thru Christ...

Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 4:1-3 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said,
As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.




you forgot the verse that says our rest is the same day God rested,

On his Holy Sabbath day, blessed and santified at the garden
 
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I already told you I am female
I don't think so, but, if so, I do admit blowing off the darkness you hurl and am careless of your verbiage, don't really take some things seriously.
 
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It is unfortunate that you witnessed such things from followers of Christ. If you witnessed the same thing from a Baptist, Methodist or Pentecostal, would you attack them with such animosity as you have the Seventh-Day Adventists?

God Bless
There are cults out the wazoo I take as equal opportunity corruptions of New Testament Christianity. I stand up for truth and refute lies, simple as that. Charles Russell, Ellen White, Joseph Smith, Herbert Armstrong not a whit difference: all false prophets. Therein lies the issue, it happens your flavor false prophet is Ellen White, as well as others a bit more closeted than you. Your links gave you away, not the doctrines, alone. The issue of people not plainly admitting who they are and whose doctrine they're spreading speaks loudly for itself.
 

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I don't think so, but, if so, I do admit blowing off the darkness you hurl and am careless of your verbiage, don't really take some things seriously.
Blah blah going to sleep, please get off egw case or your blood pressure will sky rocket.

I really do pray whoever has the sense of urgency to be in truth seek for yourselves everything mentioned on these forums and not blow off anything that may bare truth. Dismiss the useless vain idle posts and verify the information provided on any given topic not just the Sabbath, so many man made doctrine, its scary that people prefer to be complacent and accept everything without questioning it. And especially dismissing things that can be verified with scripture. One understanding of Christ doctrine will bring unity to the body of Christ not one interpretation of any given denomination will bring unity to the body of Christ.
 
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4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.




you forgot the verse that says our rest is the same day God rested,

On his Holy Sabbath day, blessed and santified at the garden
The day God rested was on the cross some 2000 years ago when He cried 'Tetelestai' ..'it is finished'. That's the rest the New Creation enters into. Hope you're born anew.
 
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Three verses? One should have been enough...

Hebrews 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

And it has everything to do with the Sabbath...our rest thru Christ...

Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 4:1-3 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said,
As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
That is correct. The LORD did speak through the prophets in time past, and in these last days has spoken through His Son. Will they contradict one another? Never.

Justified by faith, I couldn't agree more. What does this have to do with sanctification?

You quoted the first 3 verses of Hebrews 4. Let me quote the rest of the text that speaks of rest. It might make a difference.

Hebrews 4:4-10 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works [Gen. 2:2-3]. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief [sound familiar?]: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest [see below] to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his."

rest (G4520) sabbatismos
1. a keeping sabbath
2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians
from a derivative of G4521

(G4521) sabbaton
1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
1a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week
of Hebrew origin H7676

(H7676) shabbâth
1. Sabbath
1a. sabbath
1b. day of atonement
1c. sabbath year
1d. week
1e. produce (in sabbath year)
intensive from H7673

(7673) shâbath
1. to cease, desist, rest
1a. (Qal)
1a-1. to cease
1a-2. to rest, desist (from labour)
1b. (Niphal) to cease
1c. (Hiphil)
1c-1. to cause to cease, put an end to
1c-2. to exterminate, destroy
1c-3. to cause to desist from
1c-4. to remove
1c-5. to cause to fail
2. (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath
a primitive root

I don't know how much clearer this can be. Anyone can do this exegesis if they really want to know. The seventh day is directly quoted from Genesis 2. The writer states that there remains a seventh day Sabbath for the people of God. Then he even has the audacity to say that those who enter into God's rest will cease from their works even as He did! How did God rest from His works?

Genesis 2:2-3 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

The LORD created the seventh day (Sabbath), blessed and sanctified it "because that in it he had rested from all his work".

Wait, wait. We aren't done yet. The question to ask now is, once God has blessed something, can it be undone?

Numbers 23:19-20 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it."

Here Balaam tells Balak that the LORD gave him a commandment to bless Israel. He told Balak that what the LORD has blessed, he cannot reverse it. Do we think we can reverse the blessing the LORD has placed on something? Apparently many think so.

1 Chronicles 17:26-27 "And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness unto thy servant: Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may be before thee for ever: for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever."

Here David is speaking of the LORD blessing "the house of thy servant". He testifies that what the LORD has blessed shall be blessed forever.

With all of this witness from the Word of God, can we truly say that the blessing of the seventh day Sabbath has been negated by the death of the Son of God? The same death Jesus had to pay because of our "transgression of the law"? Lastly, can we really enter into His rest while denying Him at the same time?

May the LORD bless those that seek the truth.

God Bless
 
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That is correct. The LORD did speak through the prophets in time past, and in these last days has spoken through His Son. Will they contradict one another? Never.

Justified by faith, I couldn't agree more. What does this have to do with sanctification?

You quoted the first 3 verses of Hebrews 4. Let me quote the rest of the text that speaks of rest. It might make a difference.

Hebrews 4:4-10 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works [Gen. 2:2-3]. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief [sound familiar?]: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest [see below] to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his."

rest (G4520) sabbatismos
1. a keeping sabbath
2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians
from a derivative of G4521

(G4521) sabbaton
1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
1a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week
of Hebrew origin H7676

(H7676) shabbâth
1. Sabbath
1a. sabbath
1b. day of atonement
1c. sabbath year
1d. week
1e. produce (in sabbath year)
intensive from H7673

(7673) shâbath
1. to cease, desist, rest
1a. (Qal)
1a-1. to cease
1a-2. to rest, desist (from labour)
1b. (Niphal) to cease
1c. (Hiphil)
1c-1. to cause to cease, put an end to
1c-2. to exterminate, destroy
1c-3. to cause to desist from
1c-4. to remove
1c-5. to cause to fail
2. (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath
a primitive root

I don't know how much clearer this can be. Anyone can do this exegesis if they really want to know. The seventh day is directly quoted from Genesis 2. The writer states that there remains a seventh day Sabbath for the people of God. Then he even has the audacity to say that those who enter into God's rest will cease from their works even as He did! How did God rest from His works?

Genesis 2:2-3 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

The LORD created the seventh day (Sabbath), blessed and sanctified it "because that in it he had rested from all his work".

Wait, wait. We aren't done yet. The question to ask now is, once God has blessed something, can it be undone?

Numbers 23:19-20 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it."

Here Balaam tells Balak that the LORD gave him a commandment to bless Israel. He told Balak that what the LORD has blessed, he cannot reverse it. Do we think we can reverse the blessing the LORD has placed on something? Apparently many think so.

1 Chronicles 17:26-27 "And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness unto thy servant: Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may be before thee for ever: for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever."

Here David is speaking of the LORD blessing "the house of thy servant". He testifies that what the LORD has blessed shall be blessed forever.

With all of this witness from the Word of God, can we truly say that the blessing of the seventh day Sabbath has been negated by the death of the Son of God? The same death Jesus had to pay because of our "transgression of the law"? Lastly, can we really enter into His rest while denying Him at the same time?

May the LORD bless those that seek the truth.

God Bless
See post #133.
 
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There must be a veil over your eyes, or you are just not studying the Bible. The Scripture is so clear, I don't see how anyone could misunderstand it. This isn't a Seventh-Day Adventist or E.G. White teaching. NOTHING BUT KING JAMES BIBLE.

1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
1 Samuel 15:24 "And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice."

This is the Bible's definition of sin. Breaking the Law. This is the problem, not the Law itself. Everyone is running around here saying that the Law is this wicked thing, that we can't be saved by keeping it. Noone is saying that salvation comes through the Law. When you are saved by the blood of Christ, you obey the Law of God out of love for your salvation. Clear Bible teaching.

Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."

Now plug in the definition of sin back into the verse. This is how the Bible interprets itself.

Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their transgression of the law."

So, how can the LORD save you from breaking His Law if you reject obedience unto it? Christ, in His infinite knowledge, made this statement about "Christians" who do this exact thing:

Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Who are the only people on earth who call Jesus "Lord"? Christians. So here we have people who profess Jesus Christ as Lord claiming to prophesy in His name, cast out devils in His name, and do many wonderful works in His name. Yet, because they continued to "work iniquity", He says He never knew them. Only those Christians who do the will of the Father will enter heaven.

What is the will of God? What does it mean to "know the Lord"? What is iniquity?

Psalm 40:8 "I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart."
1 John 2:3-4 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
Nehemiah 4:5 "And cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee: for they have provoked thee to anger before the builders." (one of many verses showing this)

So, the will of God is His Law within our heart. Knowing Jesus is keeping His commandments. Iniquity is sin, and sin is transgression of the Law. Lets fill in the Bible's definition back into the text. This isn't verbatim, but this is the Bible once again telling us what it is saying.

Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that hath in His heart the law of my Father, which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you because ye kept not my commandments: depart from me, ye that transgress the law."

I could list a thousand other verses, with only the Bible filling in the gaps. No denomination, "cult", or personal opinion. ONLY THE KING JAMES BIBLE. Sadly, the response of many, instead of looking at what it is saying, will reject what the LORD has inspired through His Word. They will say all kinds of things that go directly against the Word, and even quote Scripture to do it.

Let us take heed to this next text.

Matthew 7:13-14 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

The way to destruction is broad, and many go in that way. The way to life is narrow, and few find it. With this being understood, how is it possible that the multitudes of Christians in the world that reject the Law of God will be saved? In a previous verse, we read that "many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord," however, He will reject them. Only a few find life, yet it is only a few proclaiming actual Bible truths. This should be an alarm going off real loud for those paying attention.

I say all of this because the LORD desires all to be sanctified (notice I didn't say justified) through obedience unto Him. It is my fervent prayer that even 1 person will have their eyes opened, and will make a decision to follow God according to what He says instead of the doctrines of men.

God Bless
Are you kidding me mate! Not one verse is after the death of Christ. Your argument is verily incapable of producing any useful result to support your ludicrous post. I shall scoff and bark in laughter at your weakness of the Word of GOD.
 
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Are you kidding me mate! Not one verse is after the death of Christ. Your argument is verily incapable of producing any useful result to support your ludicrous post. I shall scoff and bark in laughter at your weakness of the Word of GOD.
So a Scripture has to be after the death of Christ to be valid and useable? That theory would make the same Gospels you quote from void.

The definition of sin will always remain the same. Are you even reading the text? The only way a person could say what you are saying is if they completely reject the Word of the LORD. Humble yourself before the King. Only then can He teach you the truth from His Word.

God Bless
 
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Are you kidding me mate! Not one verse is after the death of Christ. Your argument is verily incapable of producing any useful result to support your ludicrous post. I shall scoff and bark in laughter at your weakness of the Word of GOD.
It's a pattern I call spaghetti exegesis. It's used by all those trying to put forth a private interpretation of the Bible, and we known the "denominations" with corrupt, extra-Biblical "prophets" behind it. Anytime you see comments from the man philosophizing, applying faulty logic, then a Bible verse(s) out of context, then more carnal philosophizing, then another verse: this is the pattern of false teachers. It's not possible to simply quote scripture and comment on the truth, which stands without human assistance, rather, to tear it down, requires man's corrupt, long winded arguing against scripture truths they reject, trying to misapply scripture to fit their squares pegs into round holes. As said before, this is why the Lord gave us scroll bars and PageDown keys.
 

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It's a pattern I call spaghetti exegesis. It's used by all those trying to put forth a private interpretation of the Bible, and we known the "denominations" with corrupt, extra-Biblical "prophets" behind it. Anytime you see comments from the man philosophizing, applying faulty logic, then a Bible verse(s) out of context, then more carnal philosophizing, then another verse: this is the pattern of false teachers. It's not possible to simply quote scripture and comment on the truth, which stands without human assistance, rather, to tear it down, requires man's corrupt, long winded arguing against scripture truths they reject, trying to misapply scripture to fit their squares pegs into round holes. As said before, this is why the Lord gave us scroll bars and PageDown keys.
Please forgiving me for even wasting my time responding to your ridiculous comments. But i seriously have a hard time because you simply speak venom.

You have yet to prove your belief you have only provided individual one verse text from passages to keep up false man made doctrines. He, plus many others, including myself have provided scripture within context using only the Bible to explain what we believe, you have yet to do that.

I hope people are not blind when reading threads, i mean the guests of these forums, not your like minded posse, which it is evident who they are by the simple liking of each others vain idle post.

I sincerely pray you find the truth you desperately need.
 
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Jesus heals on Sabbath...

From the same principles;

1. Are doctors allowed to work on Sabbath?

since medicine are used for healing...
2. Are pharmaceutical workers doing good if they work to produce medicinal drugs on Sabbath?
Matthew 12:10 and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”

Matthew 12:11 He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?