ok I went to the web site out of respect to you jamal. I did not see smoking pot, tripping on LSD, but I will say it appeared the person Prophesying was very limited in Biblical ref: she stated the "Lord Said he want to Give you more". ok it did not bear witness with my spirit however, did someone there receive answer to something they were going through I don't know. I would need to have been there to make appropriate statement about it. But I can see some possible issues. but I really don't know. Now if I saw or smelt weed or saw one high which I have seen more than once NEWS flash people drunk high and possessed do come into churches and get saved . I know it is hard to believe but demon possessed came running to Jesus all the time. Read in Acts were one women demon possessed followed Paul for many days. Church is suppose to be a place for sick souls to receive prayer right? my House shall be called a house of prayer.....
False tongues, are you being decieved?
- Thread starter Kittycatt
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
K
Watch SBN and tell me it's demonic. That would be SonLife Broadcasting Network | Live Program Player | Jimmy Swaggart Ministries
I want to be respectful to jamal Tintin. I know many good brother who just think it is not right because they
1. do not understand it
2. they saw abuses or were abused by it
3. scared
etc... But again this is what happens when those use the gifts of God inappropriately preacher, pastors, deacons , etc.. all have mis-used their gifts and people get hurt. That is not what God wants. I have seen the gifts of god bless people and when God is in it, it will do that. I am not offended by Jamal but I hope you see the biblical ref provided. if you feel the same way that is between you and God I need not that you agree with me Lord Bless you.
1. do not understand it
2. they saw abuses or were abused by it
3. scared
etc... But again this is what happens when those use the gifts of God inappropriately preacher, pastors, deacons , etc.. all have mis-used their gifts and people get hurt. That is not what God wants. I have seen the gifts of god bless people and when God is in it, it will do that. I am not offended by Jamal but I hope you see the biblical ref provided. if you feel the same way that is between you and God I need not that you agree with me Lord Bless you.
P
words typed are usually word spoken a false tongue is more than most think this is not just a reference to the Gift of tongues There is a big difference as has been pointed out the false is what I am referring to. Most speak what is in their spirit yet the gifts of tongues is from the Holy Spirit.
Proverbs 21:23 - Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.
James 3:8 - But the tongue can no man tame; [it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Matthew 12:36-37 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Proverbs 18:21 - Death and life [are] in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
Proverbs 12:18 - There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise [is] health.
Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
James 1:26 - If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain.
Psalms 39:1 - (To the chief Musician, [even] to Jeduthun, A Psalm of David.) I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.
1 Peter 2:1 - Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
Proverbs 21:23 - Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.
James 3:8 - But the tongue can no man tame; [it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Matthew 12:36-37 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Proverbs 18:21 - Death and life [are] in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
Proverbs 12:18 - There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise [is] health.
Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
James 1:26 - If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain.
Psalms 39:1 - (To the chief Musician, [even] to Jeduthun, A Psalm of David.) I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.
1 Peter 2:1 - Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
P
Jamal you have a lot of zeal but you offer no tempered mercy, for you its send them to hell, Ill expose them all the word says this or that yet you fail to see your approach is difficult to take. I speak from experience the statements you make even for a seasoned believer are just hard to accept your position. Look at just this break down of your words here.
Why would I want to believe you period. I would love to believe the Spirit of God moving through you but I first have to know that to be true. So I would never just believe you in a Christian setting a personal setting that may be different. You asking me to believe you is asking me to believe the source you operate under. My word tells me
1 John1-6 1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
You call it meaningless because you Jamal has a gift to in your own words to recognize the language by name that they are speaking that one was really hard to swallow.
Well Jamal Rom 12 3-8 tells me3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.
Love, Zeal, Hope, Hospitality
1 John1-6 1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
You call it meaningless because you Jamal has a gift to in your own words to recognize the language by name that they are speaking that one was really hard to swallow.
Well Jamal Rom 12 3-8 tells me3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.
Love, Zeal, Hope, Hospitality
There are many tongues of men in this world and there also tongues of angels, as according to ! Corinthians chapter 13, verse 1, that one may posses and gifted. Each one have a significant use for the common Good, in the meeting places.
But there is an order given to believers to be practiced because of 'Agape', how and when to use them in Kingdom orderly manner in their meeting places.
That order is given in 1 Corinthian chapter 14. Those who speak in tongues of intercession with GOD, must also ask for the gift of interpretation. With interpretation only two or three are allowed to speak at one time and others take turn. If there is no interpretation, all tongues speakers are to remain silent and in silent in their hearts let it be prayers between them and GOD. Interpretation is required, so that other believers there understand the meaning of their prayer to GOD and all together can say, Amen at the end it.
'Interpretation' is also encouraged, i believe due to, what if one's utterance were false tongues that speaks against GOD at a time of Grace, instead. That even the utterer don't understand what they are saying but in ignorant to Scripture called order, proudly and loudly continue manifesting, in the meeting places of GOD.
Apart from the New Covenant Kingdom Spiritual knowledge taught to citizen, who are meeting together as brothers and sisters and in an standardize orderly manner, according to one knowledge, in submission and obedience and in them practices, are just ignorant 'lawlessness' and 'self' demonic deception.
Remember that according to the New Testament, the evil realm operates in disguise, in order and it's order, to deceive many like a 'roaring lion'. That is why the Apostle said to the saints, 'not to immediately welcome those who claim to be believers of CHRIST. Test their spirit before welcoming them.
Blessed be the name of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and the name of the blessed FATHER and the blessed HOLY SPIRIT, forever and ever, Amen.
But there is an order given to believers to be practiced because of 'Agape', how and when to use them in Kingdom orderly manner in their meeting places.
That order is given in 1 Corinthian chapter 14. Those who speak in tongues of intercession with GOD, must also ask for the gift of interpretation. With interpretation only two or three are allowed to speak at one time and others take turn. If there is no interpretation, all tongues speakers are to remain silent and in silent in their hearts let it be prayers between them and GOD. Interpretation is required, so that other believers there understand the meaning of their prayer to GOD and all together can say, Amen at the end it.
'Interpretation' is also encouraged, i believe due to, what if one's utterance were false tongues that speaks against GOD at a time of Grace, instead. That even the utterer don't understand what they are saying but in ignorant to Scripture called order, proudly and loudly continue manifesting, in the meeting places of GOD.
Apart from the New Covenant Kingdom Spiritual knowledge taught to citizen, who are meeting together as brothers and sisters and in an standardize orderly manner, according to one knowledge, in submission and obedience and in them practices, are just ignorant 'lawlessness' and 'self' demonic deception.
Remember that according to the New Testament, the evil realm operates in disguise, in order and it's order, to deceive many like a 'roaring lion'. That is why the Apostle said to the saints, 'not to immediately welcome those who claim to be believers of CHRIST. Test their spirit before welcoming them.
Blessed be the name of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and the name of the blessed FATHER and the blessed HOLY SPIRIT, forever and ever, Amen.
Last edited:
C
No one would argue this. God can do anything He wants. But that really doesn't help us with the issue of whether modern unintelligible tongues is an angelic language. This is an assumption many make, and they claim it to be a sign. My question would be how could such a thing that is so easily duplicatable and non-impressive be a sign?
Pentecost was such an amazing event. The signs were undeniable. Yet today we're content gibberish. It's seems we've totally forgotten what real signs look like.
Pentecost was such an amazing event. The signs were undeniable. Yet today we're content gibberish. It's seems we've totally forgotten what real signs look like.
P
Here is a thought when God commanded his Angels in the Bible he spoke to them in a language they recognized if we then are made in the image of God they would recognize our language to and we there's . Luke 1:19 - And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. Jude 1:9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee
If God sends an Angel into our midst he wont be speaking in tongues that would not be understood. Therefore I am assured that the language that is called Angelic means something different. I'm not quite sure but I'll stand on this if God sends me an Angel he is gonna make sure I understand the message in whatever language.
If God sends an Angel into our midst he wont be speaking in tongues that would not be understood. Therefore I am assured that the language that is called Angelic means something different. I'm not quite sure but I'll stand on this if God sends me an Angel he is gonna make sure I understand the message in whatever language.
I think that is not quite what the bible says. The Acts Account only one time did the rushing mighty wind and tongues of fire happened. it was not done again but Speaking in tongues was done and recorded as an normative not descriptive.
Acts 2:2-4 this is the only time we see sound from heaven, rushing mighty wind, cloven tongues of fire before they spoke in tongues.
Acts 10:44-46 Peter did not even get to lay hands on them in and the Holy Spirit filled them Acts 19:6 Paul laid his hands on about 12 men and they received and spoken in tongues. 1 cor 12, 13, 14 is instruction on the gifts. one saying they are gibberish ok then God uses gibberish which was mocked too at Pentecost acts 2 after all of the amazing thing happened. Rushing mighty wind, cloven tongues of fire they mocked and said they were drunk. where they undeniable? human reason has been denying God for along time now. Rom 1 speaks of that. the real sign? from what the bible says is not the rushing mighty wind nor cloven tongues of fire I think now as a normative the initial evidence may be tongues when one is filled with the Holy Spirit or Prophesying.
Acts 2:2-4 this is the only time we see sound from heaven, rushing mighty wind, cloven tongues of fire before they spoke in tongues.
Acts 10:44-46 Peter did not even get to lay hands on them in and the Holy Spirit filled them Acts 19:6 Paul laid his hands on about 12 men and they received and spoken in tongues. 1 cor 12, 13, 14 is instruction on the gifts. one saying they are gibberish ok then God uses gibberish which was mocked too at Pentecost acts 2 after all of the amazing thing happened. Rushing mighty wind, cloven tongues of fire they mocked and said they were drunk. where they undeniable? human reason has been denying God for along time now. Rom 1 speaks of that. the real sign? from what the bible says is not the rushing mighty wind nor cloven tongues of fire I think now as a normative the initial evidence may be tongues when one is filled with the Holy Spirit or Prophesying.
The LORD JESUS CHRIST is delighted with you and how i recognize that?
They are according to the Gospel and also others in the New Covenant, JESUS have left with us.
Praise GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, and by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, according to the Gospel Spiritual Kingdom knowledge, you are now responding like Mary to our LORD JESUS CHRIST, than previously Martha, who is trouble and worried about many things of the written Scripture.
This is what the LORD JESUS CHRIST imparts to you. by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, and because of you, also to others.
What Apostle Paul is testifying for our lesson to 'imitate' and also for those who speak in tongues is, for example in today's believers living for the benefit of others together, who do not posses the same gifts, testifies as follow;
'my common fluent spoken tongues of men is English language and i am able to pray to GOD according to the understanding of the New Covenant. in submission and obedience to GOD's Word and honoring CHRIST who gave them as Grace and Truth, physically. Then the HOLY SPIRIT gift of Heavenly tongue in my Spiritual utterance with interpretation, also for the benefit of others together to say, Amen.
And He also go on to say that He controls His spirit, to continue in tongue of Heaven and rather use His mind of common language to built up others in 'Agape', in the midst of others. So that He do not need to put and show Him 'self' above others, because He knows and testifies what the LORD JESUS CHRIST have bestowed in Him, that was greater utterer in Heavenly tongue than gifted others, since He is CHRIST's chosen Apostle, 'an instrument serving CHRIST for the scattered Jews and for the Gentiles', in order through Him establish CHRIST's Body/church.
To everyone, learn from dearly beloved Kerry, who have shown onto the LORD JESUS CHRIST a 'positive New Covenant attitude, in honoring HIM.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, bless you and others with HIS kindness and peace, including that which are Spiritual and being testified as testified above, in the given gift of speaking in wisdom of the HOLY SPIRIT and of the Kingdom of GOD to HIS lambs and sheep to be built up.
i am merely an unworthy servant lower than you and others, by HIS will still here and just doing my given duty in order 'to serve and not to be served'.
Thank you and be blessed in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
They are according to the Gospel and also others in the New Covenant, JESUS have left with us.
Praise GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, and by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, according to the Gospel Spiritual Kingdom knowledge, you are now responding like Mary to our LORD JESUS CHRIST, than previously Martha, who is trouble and worried about many things of the written Scripture.
This is what the LORD JESUS CHRIST imparts to you. by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, and because of you, also to others.
What Apostle Paul is testifying for our lesson to 'imitate' and also for those who speak in tongues is, for example in today's believers living for the benefit of others together, who do not posses the same gifts, testifies as follow;
'my common fluent spoken tongues of men is English language and i am able to pray to GOD according to the understanding of the New Covenant. in submission and obedience to GOD's Word and honoring CHRIST who gave them as Grace and Truth, physically. Then the HOLY SPIRIT gift of Heavenly tongue in my Spiritual utterance with interpretation, also for the benefit of others together to say, Amen.
And He also go on to say that He controls His spirit, to continue in tongue of Heaven and rather use His mind of common language to built up others in 'Agape', in the midst of others. So that He do not need to put and show Him 'self' above others, because He knows and testifies what the LORD JESUS CHRIST have bestowed in Him, that was greater utterer in Heavenly tongue than gifted others, since He is CHRIST's chosen Apostle, 'an instrument serving CHRIST for the scattered Jews and for the Gentiles', in order through Him establish CHRIST's Body/church.
To everyone, learn from dearly beloved Kerry, who have shown onto the LORD JESUS CHRIST a 'positive New Covenant attitude, in honoring HIM.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, bless you and others with HIS kindness and peace, including that which are Spiritual and being testified as testified above, in the given gift of speaking in wisdom of the HOLY SPIRIT and of the Kingdom of GOD to HIS lambs and sheep to be built up.
i am merely an unworthy servant lower than you and others, by HIS will still here and just doing my given duty in order 'to serve and not to be served'.
Thank you and be blessed in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Last edited:
. . . . began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Every man heard them speak in his own language [not the apostles' language but speaking the language of Parthians, Medes and Elamites, etc] - languages that the apostles did not know - that is why they were confounded [bewildered].
Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Last edited:
