Do Bible Numbers Have Meaning or Is It Just Useless Filler Info within the Bible?

[ELECT]

Number 40. Are folks really not wanting to see that this number can be tied to a "trial" or "a time of testing"?

Noah and Jesus both went thru a trial for 40 days. Why are folks ignoring Scripture on this point or fact?

40 is the number of probation

 

[Brainfreeze]

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Proverbs 30:5 - Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Deuteronomy 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

if none of this speaks to you, I don't know what will.

 

[ELECT]

How did that info help you?

we are commanded to know wisdom of God and mysteries of God

Thus God is a God of order and anything He does is not by guess

 

[Jason0047]

40 is the number of probation

It's the same thing.

Probation | Define Probation at Dictionary.com

 

[ELECT]

Jason, was the scripture wrote in numbers or in words, and I don't want to hear the words mean numbers, this is a lie from the devil, show me the scripture where Jesus tells you to count numbers, you won't because it's not truth, Gods word is truth, not some numbers your adding and subtracting and I hope you are not foolish enough to go for this to long, but looks like your head in to it, when I was saved as young and preached my first sermon, did it with no number as I said enough in this thread, never needed a number to experience miracles, or Gods love, I'm telling you, this is wrong, if it's so great why haven't preachers been preaching this for years, because it's not right, and most would Know better, we should not play or "arrange" Gods word, nor take away from or add to, and now your not only adding to His word, it's with numbers, do you know how complex numbers can get, our whole economy is based on a phony "number" system, that will break by the way.. I do not and will never rely on a number I find my strength in Jesus Christ, I will never get to a miracle number, that can show me the peace I already have, I have more in Jesus and His words that will last me a 10 lifetimes before I could ever resort to a number, it's pretty insulting as I said that we would have to go to numbers to prove God, sad really, and people want to promote this, never in my life, as a watchmen would say " not on my watch " so those whoever dig for info and come across this thread, will know there is a difference, a distinct difference between " believing " and having to count for " proof " there's a God. I will not judge you for what your doing that's Gods job, and I will do nothing but hope you well, and that you pray for insight of how dangerous this is for you. I can't make you see it from the Spirit, and not count it with the mind, I'm just going to stick with Jesus and His literal words. Nothing else, nothing, I will not change words to numbers. I'm just letting you guys know this is a false teaching, and I've said my peace.

Would you count the words or the numbers ?

Revelation 13:18King James Version (KJV)

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Jason0047]

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Proverbs 30:5 - Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Deuteronomy 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

if none of this speaks to you, I don't know what will.

You are seeing something that is not there in what I believe. In fact, I recently created a thread on Sola Scriptura!

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/100040-biblical-defense-sola-scriptura.html

 

[ELECT]

1 is unity
2 is union
3 divinity
4 world
5 division
6 man
7 perfection
8 new order or beginning
10 world completion

 

[Brainfreeze]

Hate the numbers in God's Word? Here are some mathematical prophecies.

Mathematical Bible Prophecy #1.
Mathematical Bible Prophecy #2.

thought you don't look to math for future events Jason. What happened to that?

 

[ELECT]

7 angels 7 vial 7 trumpets perfect and complete judgement on the world

 

[Jason0047]

How did that info help you?

Knowing God is triune is important. For if you don't believe God is triune like the Scriptures teach, then one is not worshipping God in Spirt and in truth. Also, to ignore that our reality is 3 dimensional will cause you serious problems, my friend.

 

[Jason0047]

thought you don't look to math for future events Jason. What happened to that?

These are prophecies that are already fulfilled.

 

[ELECT]

Knowing God is triune is important. For if you don't believe God is triune like the Scriptures teach, then one is not worshipping God in Spirt and in truth. Also, to ignore that our reality is 3 dimensional will cause you serious problems, my friend.

3D each represents the Father Son Holy Ghost

 

[Brainfreeze]

And I hate nothing, don't put words in my mouth, am I saying you hate Gods word? Please don't do that.

 

[ELECT]

And I hate nothing, don't put words in my mouth, am I saying you hate Gods word? Please don't do that.

Why do you think that Jesus was baptised at 30 and not older or younger ?

 

[Brainfreeze]

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Proverbs 30:5 - Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put their trust in him.


Deuteronomy 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

What are you not getting? It's very simple.

 

[Jason0047]

7 angels 7 vial 7 trumpets perfect and complete judgement on the world

I can't believe the many sevens that occur at the end of Revelation is just some random occurence. Why? Because my God does not operate by chance or luck. With God, everything is under His sovereign control or will.

 

[ELECT]

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Proverbs 30:5 - Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put their trust in him.


Deuteronomy 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

What are you not getting? It's very simple.

And you are diminishing from God word

Why does the city have measurements and dimension ?

or are you counting words ?

 

[ELECT]

I can't believe the many sevens that occur at the end of Revelation is just some random occurence. Why? Because my God does not operate by chance or luck. With God, everything is under His sovereign control or will.

Jesus will come at the star of the 7000 year

 

[Jason0047]

And I hate nothing, don't put words in my mouth, am I saying you hate Gods word? Please don't do that.

You hate the aspect of the teaching on God's Word that clearly teaches that there is a meaning ascribed (based on the context) to many of the numbers in God's Word. You said yourself it is a false religion. However, you are condemning a truth in Scripture and you don't even realize it, my friend. Before, when we were doing our study, you did not act like this.

 

[Brainfreeze]

And you are diminishing from God word

Why does the city have measurements and dimension ?

or are you counting words ?

Count the measurements of the ark, count the dimensions of the city, count how many days Jesus was in the wilderness, these are all literal descriptions, nothing else. He's giving it to you to do there, so we can understand the literal dimensions of something, nothing more, nothing less. He didn't give you a description of His word to count, this is false teaching.