Ebola spreading?

[Blain]

So a few days ago my sister told me ebola has reached oklahoma, she said a friend of hers got the notification from her phone. I love in okc and Im not afraid of getting it and dying I could care less if that happens to me its just another way I can shine for the Lord. However my family and lots of others on okc are not saved and tbh I would rather they dont die. however I cant find it anywhere in the news or on the internet so I was wondering if anyone else could validate this?

 

[blue_ladybug]

So a few days ago my sister told me ebola has reached oklahoma, she said a friend of hers got the notification from her phone. I love in okc and Im not afraid of getting it and dying I could care less if that happens to me its just another way I can shine for the Lord. However my family and lots of others on okc are not saved and tbh I would rather they dont die. however I cant find it anywhere in the news or on the internet so I was wondering if anyone else could validate this?

​Blain, I looked and found that officials in Oklahoma are only considering what to do IF ebola hits that state. Ebola is NOT an airborne disease. It is spread through contact with bodily fluids such as blood, urine, semen, spit, vomit.. I really would not worry too much about it. The media always makes things sound as dire and scary as possible.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Of course it's spreading. Here's new cases in the U.S.:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/us/texas-health-worker-tests-positive-for-ebola.html?_r=0
Patient with Ebola symptoms transferred to Boston hospital | Reuters
Etc...

The WHO’s current “Ebola count” is 8,033 cases and 3,865 deaths from Guinea, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Congo, Spain and United States. Australia, Germany and Turkey just reported new cases and some authoritarian nations may be suppressing disclosure of Ebola cases.

The “Biology of Plagues” published by Cambridge University Press analyzed 2,500 years of plagues and concluded that the Black Death was caused by a viral hemorrhagic fever pandemic similar to Ebola. If this view is correct, the future medical and economic impacts from Ebola have been vastly underestimated.

As Ebola gains traction, remember that it was the "liberals" who said it's "racist" to stop deadly diseases from spreading to your country.

 

[PHYSIKA73]

So a few days ago my sister told me ebola has reached oklahoma, she said a friend of hers got the notification from her phone. I love in okc and Im not afraid of getting it and dying I could care less if that happens to me its just another way I can shine for the Lord. However my family and lots of others on okc are not saved and tbh I would rather they dont die. however I cant find it anywhere in the news or on the internet so I was wondering if anyone else could validate this?

Ebola has not reached Oklahoma bud. There's only one person infected at this time in the U.S. and she is doing well. The person that brought it here to the U.S. has died. The CDC says there is no need for panic either. They have set up a strategic task force that will be on the ground in hours of the reported case. I feel confident that it wont be in the U.S. much longer and National Guard members are being deployed to stop the outbreaks around the world. On another note, ebola is not an airborn disease. It is only spreadable by contact with body fluid. It also isn't contagious until symptoms appear, and certain airports are taking necessary screenings to not let it spread. This is just the next thing that people are going to talk about for awhile. Nothing to worry about right now. However there is a very bad virus going around in Oklahoma right now, the Enterovirus d68. It is very dangerous and untreatable. So be careful, make sure to wash hands more than usual.

 

[Ugly]

Ebola has not reached Oklahoma bud. There's only one person infected at this time in the U.S. and she is doing well. The person that brought it here to the U.S. has died. The CDC says there is no need for panic either. They have set up a strategic task force that will be on the ground in hours of the reported case. I feel confident that it wont be in the U.S. much longer and National Guard members are being deployed to stop the outbreaks around the world. On another note, ebola is not an airborn disease. It is only spreadable by contact with body fluid. It also isn't contagious until symptoms appear, and certain airports are taking necessary screenings to not let it spread. This is just the next thing that people are going to talk about for awhile. Nothing to worry about right now. However there is a very bad virus going around in Oklahoma right now, the Enterovirus d68. It is very dangerous and untreatable. So be careful, make sure to wash hands more than usual.

Actually 2. Both nurses.

 

[T_Laurich]

So before I say this I don't want to make death sound trivial... Every person is loved by God, and God died for them on the cross...

But there have been 5 countries in Africa that have Ebola (that we know of)...
That gives us a total population of 344 million people that live in third world countries with this virus... These countries are not rural but have huge cities.
Population of Freetown (Sierra Leons capital) is 1.2 million.
Lagos (Largest city in Nigeria) 21 million!!!...
Kinesha (Capital of the Democratic Republic of the Congo) 9 million...

They have big densely populated cities that do not have adequate food, water, sewage, shelter, or medical care for an overwhelming percentage of their populations.

Yet today the death toll is at 4500? (Supposedly)

I don't want to sound harsh, but if a person has the flu in a city of 21 million people, within a week I can bet 4,500 people would have that virus... Yet, Ebola has had 8 months and has barely reached these numbers... I know 4,500 hundred people is a scary amount...

But the common cold has killed 24,000 people in this time frame. Over 1 million people have died of Aids in these 8 months... 5 million people have died of cancer in these 8 months... 1.7 million children have died of famine in these 8 months.

In my opinion this is the new H1N1 flu virus scare... But my opinion needs to be taken with a bucket of salt.

 

[Blain]

Well I have only heard of a few ppl being infected with ebola in the u.s. but I also heard that a research cenetr that is supposedly the authority in sickness and disease's said that ebola is air born and that masks are no longer enough they are recommending helmets. But seeing how only a few ppl have died from this in the u.s. I highly doubt that's true

 

[T_Laurich]

Ebola lives in secretions...
The common cold and also lives in secretions...

The CDC claims 1 can travel through the air, and the other can't... When both are transmitted the same way...

Just some food for thought.
The reason the common cold is airborn is because it is in people's saliva, if a person coughs/sneezes it basically vaporizes the saliva and transmits it through the air... IF a person with Ebola was to cough or sneeze the same thing would happen... The CDC does say that Ebola is in saliva of the infected...

EDIT: the CDC also admits that patients with Ebola do sometimes cough and sneeze but it is said to be a rare condition.
Ask any health care professional about secretion based virus's...

 

[blue_ladybug]

Well I have only heard of a few ppl being infected with ebola in the u.s. but I also heard that a research cenetr that is supposedly the authority in sickness and disease's said that ebola is air born and that masks are no longer enough they are recommending helmets. But seeing how only a few ppl have died from this in the u.s. I highly doubt that's true

Ebola is NOT an airborne disease!! It is transmitted ONLY through contact with bodily fluids.. Spit, semen, vomit, urine, etc etc...

 

[blue_ladybug]

Ebola lives in secretions...
The common cold and also lives in secretions...

The CDC claims 1 can travel through the air, and the other can't... When both are transmitted the same way...

Just some food for thought.
The reason the common cold is airborn is because it is in people's saliva, if a person coughs/sneezes it basically vaporizes the saliva and transmits it through the air... IF a person with Ebola was to cough or sneeze the same thing would happen... The CDC does say that Ebola is in saliva of the infected...

EDIT: the CDC also admits that patients with Ebola do sometimes cough and sneeze but it is said to be a rare condition.
Ask any health care professional about secretion based virus's...

This article is taken from USA Today and includes an article from the World Health Organization on how ebola DOES and does NOT spread..

With some Americans on edge over the news of the country's first Ebola patient, the World Health Organization issued a statement Monday clarifying how the virus does and doesn't spread.
While the virus is new to many Americans, infectious disease specialists have been fighting Ebola since the first outbreak four decades ago. There's nothing to suggest that Ebola is spreading any differently today than it has spread in every other outbreak, says William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert and professor at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville.
The Ebola outbreak in West Africa has been growing for 10 months, with at least 7,470 cases and 3,431 deaths in Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia. The virus has spread out of control in those countries because it wasn't recognized until the outbreak had been going on for at least three months and had infected 50 people, according to the WHO.
The public health systems are in shambles in those countries, and only about one in five Ebola patients is being treated in a hospital. Families caring for loved ones in their homes are at high risk of contracting Ebola.
The average American is at very low risk, however, and Thomas Frieden, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has predicted that the Ebola virus won't spread widely here. That's because the Ebola virus does not spread through the air, like the flu or a cold virus, according to the CDC. "If you sit next to someone on the bus, you're not exposed," Frieden said last week.
A new poll finds that most Americans are divided about the government's ability to prevent a major outbreak of Ebola in the USA, according to a new national survey by the Pew Research Center. Relatively few are concerned that they or a family member will be exposed to the virus.
On the positive side, 58% of Americans have "great deal" or "fair amount" of confidence in the federal government's ability to prevent a major outbreak.
On the negative side, 41% have "not too much confidence" or "no confidence at all" in the governments ability to control Ebola, according to the survey, conducted Oct. 2 to Oct. 5 among 1,007 adults.
About 11% are very worried that they or someone in their family will be exposed to the virus, while another 21% are somewhat worried, the survey shows. Two-thirds say they are either not too worried, or not at all worried, about contracting Ebola.
According to the WHO, Ebola spreads "through close and direct physical contact with infected bodily fluids," primarily blood, feces and vomit, the statement says. In a 2007 article in The Journal of Infectious Disease, scientists who studied an Ebola outbreak in Uganda concluded that, "the risk of casual contacts with the skin, such as shaking hands, is likely to be low."
Doctors and nurses can catch Ebola from patients if they're not wearing gloves, because the virus can enter the body through small cuts on their hands. People also can infect themselves if they touch the blood of someone with Ebola, then touch their eyes, nose or mouth.
Many people are worried that they can catch Ebola because someone coughs on them. While this is a common way to catch the flu, it's not a major concern for Ebola, the WHO says.
In order for there to be "airborne spread," people would have to be able to inhale an infectious dose — not just a few viruses, but enough to make them actually sick — from a "suspended cloud of small, dried droplets," the WHO says. This can happen with measles, which can infect a susceptible person — someone who has not been vaccinated or had the disease — even two hours after an infected person has left the room.
Infectious disease experts haven't seen airborne spread of Ebola, in spite of "extensive studies of the Ebola virus over several decades."
The WHO adds: "Common sense and observation tell us that spread of the virus via coughing or sneezing is rare, if it happens at all."
While it's theoretically possible for someone to become infected through coughing, the WHO's new statement explains why this is highly unlikely.
"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person. This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person."
Again, while spreading Ebola this way is theoretically possible, the WHO statement says there are no documented cases of Ebola spreading this way. When doctors and disease detectives interview people who have had Ebola, "all cases were infected by direct close contact with symptomatic patients."
While the Ebola virus has been detected in bodily fluids other than blood — including breast milk, urine, semen, saliva and tears — there's no conclusive evidence showing that the virus really spreads this way.
Although scientists have found the Ebola virus in saliva, it was most frequently found in the saliva of patients at a very late stage of illness, when the virus has had the chance to reproduce extensively. And while the DNA of an Ebola virus has been found in sweat, a "whole, live virus" — one that could infect someone — has never been found in sweat, the WHO says. The risk of transmitting Ebola by touching a contaminated surface is low, and can be reduced even more by cleaning and disinfecting surfaces with a bleach solution, the WHO says.
In the study from Uganda, doctors tested 33 surfaces inside an Ebola treatment center, testing whether they could find the virus or even just its DNA. They didn't find live Ebola viruses anywhere. They found DNA from the Ebola virus — which can be present even if the virus itself has broken down — on only two surfaces: a doctor's bloody surgical gloves and a bloody site where an intravenous needle had been inserted.
Doctors found no Ebola virus on light switches, bed frames or bedside chairs.
Some experts have had other concerns.
Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, has said he is concerned that the uncontrolled Ebola outbreak in West Africa could give the virus the chance to mutate in a way that allows it to become airborne.
The new WHO statement, however, notes that this phenomenon — while theoretically possible — has never actually happened. For example, the H5N1 avian influenza virus — known as bird flu — has caused sporadic human cases since 1997 and now spreads commonly among chickens and ducks in much of Asia. Although "that virus has probably circulated through many billions of birds for at least two decades," the statement says, "its mode of transmission remains basically unchanged."
The WHO adds: "Speculation that Ebola virus disease might mutate into a form that could easily spread among humans through the air is just that: speculation, unsubstantiated by any evidence. This kind of speculation is unfounded but understandable as health officials race to catch up with this fast-moving and rapidly evolving outbreak."


**this article was written on October 6, 2014.

 

[Rapunzel]

Medical staff are being told to treat Ebola like it is already airborne. Read the AORN. Do you think if the CDC knew that it was airborne they would inform the general population? What purpose would that serve, especially when they claim they have it under control.

 

[T_Laurich]

This article is taken from USA Today and includes an article from the World Health Organization on how ebola DOES and does NOT spread..


**this article was written on October 6, 2014.

Your report is biased.
According to the WHO, Ebola spreads "through close and direct physical contact with infected bodily fluids," primarily blood, feces and vomit, the statement says. In a 2007 article in The Journal of Infectious Disease, scientists who studied an Ebola outbreak in Uganda concluded that, "the risk of casual contacts with the skin, such as shaking hands, is likely to be low."
Doctors and nurses can catch Ebola from patients if they're not wearing gloves, because the virus can enter the body through small cuts on their hands. People also can infect themselves if they touch the blood of someone with Ebola, then touch their eyes, nose or mouth.
Many people are worried that they can catch Ebola because someone coughs on them. While this is a common way to catch the flu, it's not a major concern for Ebola, the WHO says.
In order for there to be "airborne spread," people would have to be able to inhale an infectious dose — not just a few viruses, but enough to make them actually sick — from a "suspended cloud of small, dried droplets," the WHO says. This can happen with measles, which can infect a susceptible person — someone who has not been vaccinated or had the disease — even two hours after an infected person has left the room.

Notice, they do not deny that it is contagious in an airborn state... But say a person must take a infectious dose in order to become sick... WOW!


Further more your post compares Ebola to Bird flu...
This is from the CDC's page Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza A (H5N1) in People | Avian Influenza (Flu)

H5N1 virus can infect the respiratory tract of humans. When people develop illness from HPAI H5N1 virus infection, severe respiratory illness (e.g. pneumonia and respiratory failure) and death may occur.
The majority of HPAI H5N1 cases have occurred among children and adults younger than 40 years old. Mortality has been highest in people aged 10-19 years old and young adults. Most human HPAI H5N1 cases have presented late in their illness for medical care and have been hospitalized with severe respiratory disease. However, some clinically mild HPAI H5N1 cases have been reported, especially in children.
Of the few avian influenza A viruses that have crossed the species barrier to infect humans, HPAI H5N1 virus has caused the largest number of detected cases of severe disease and death in humans. However, it is possible that the most severely ill people are more likely to be diagnosed and reported, while milder cases are less likely to be detected and reported. Despite the high mortality, human cases of HPAI H5N1 remain rare to date, even among persons exposed to infected sick or dead poultry.

In other words it is not in the secretions of humans... So it does not infect people like Ebola. It is key to note that EBOLA is in secretions, and lives in secretions... The same with the common cold... Secretion based virus' are all passed the same way...

 

[Blain]

You know honestly if was airborn you cant exactly learn that from the news because why would they want the world to be in a panic and fear? Even if it was airborn the news won't tell you, so Honestly where can we go to learn the truth for ourselves? I don't know of a web site that actually speaks the truth and can back up their claims does anyone else?

 

[T_Laurich]

I warn you highly of watching people like Alex Jones and others of the same category... They only give information in the goal of causing a panic and a revolution...

The local news is decent as long as you research everything yourself afterwards and do not take anything for face value... (Same goes with nearly all news)

 

[blue_ladybug]

I warn you highly of watching people like Alex Jones and others of the same category... They only give information in the goal of causing a panic and a revolution...

The local news is decent as long as you research everything yourself afterwards and do not take anything for face value... (Same goes with nearly all news)

​The media always blows things out of proportion anyway, and tells us only what THEY want us to know..

 

[Blain]

I warn you highly of watching people like Alex Jones and others of the same category... They only give information in the goal of causing a panic and a revolution...

The local news is decent as long as you research everything yourself afterwards and do not take anything for face value... (Same goes with nearly all news)

I have no idea who those people are but I watch cnn sometimes and I watch a youtuber pastor Paul Begly who mostly posts news related to bible prophecy and I check what he says and it turns out to be true. But other than him I dont know a reliable source for news

 

[SparkleEyes]

I live in the upper Midwest. I am not worried about Ebola spreading and becoming an epidemic in the US. While we do have much to learn about the disease, I am confident that it will not spread much beyond a few cases. We have MUCH better health care in the US.

We should be more worried about the flu. Upwards of 20,000 people die EACH YEAR from the flu. Get your flu shot if your immune system is compromised in any way or your are elderly.

 

[Blain]

​The media always blows things out of proportion anyway, and tells us only what THEY want us to know..

I smell a conspiracy(Mwahahaha...)

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It's infectious. Ebola lives outside the body and can stay on handrails, etc... until you come along with the tiniest scratch and put your hand on it. Congratulations, you have a 70% chance of being dead in a month according to the World Health Organization. But Ebola's also droplet-born infectious meaning that even though it's not technically an airborne virus: if you're close to someone who has it you can catch it through the air: Read this to get a better understanding of how Ebola spreads
The Democrats said it was "racist" to stop people who have Ebola from coming to the U.S.. They left everything wide open. If you disagree, then you're a "racist" according to Obama and the Democrats. *rolls eyes*.

Obviously not, but then "liberals" never let facts get in the way of their ideology.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Is Ebola a hoax?
Are they just scaring people, why do we hear nothing of intro virus that's killed hundreds of people so far?