No doubt.....and i agree......amazing how one will trust into water over blood and genuine faith....not considering the fact that immersion is an ordinance and has no power to save....!
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No doubt.....and i agree......amazing how one will trust into water over blood and genuine faith....not considering the fact that immersion is an ordinance and has no power to save....!
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and how did you arrive at that? water baptism is different from HS baptism ....you cannot confuse the two....can you water baptise without water?.....
Who is with all due respect to you 'newbirth', in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST confused? Please answer in Kingdom taught manner and wisely according to the sound doctrine knowledge, dearly beloved 'elf3', regarding John 3;5, that i am guided to quote earlier in my reply.
In the Kingdom of GOD, it is not about who is talent and clever, but who is wise in love and learning from one another. There is no ganging up but labor in singular sound doctrine understanding by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Thank you and be blessed in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Peace be with you, in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, beloved 'elf3', for there should be no competition with each other, but only brotherly kindness.
Thank you and be blessed in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
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elf3
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Thanks Fred. I think (for sure) I needed that. I can be beyond a "Son of thunder" some times. More like "Son of thunder, lightning, hail and high winds" lol. My storm for sure needs calmed sometimes.
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elf3
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amen God has every power, authority and prerogative to do as He pleases!
and all that He pleases to do is done! nothing can hold back His arm!
hear and believe the promise of God from the lips of His Christ:
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life.
He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
(John 5:24)
the 'good news' is very good indeed
amen God has every power, authority and prerogative to do as He pleases!
and all that He pleases to do is done! nothing can hold back His arm!
hear and believe the promise of God from the lips of His Christ:
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life.
He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
(John 5:24)
the 'good news' is very good indeed
James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
we should be neither idle, nor deceived.
yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
(Galatians 2:16)
I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
(Ephesians 4:1-3)
with all due respect bro James....it is not my intention to be rude to anyone....and if I say someone is confused it is not out of anger or hate but based on their comment......in my view... three study bible is confidence in man and not God it is a recipe for confusion...but if I came across as offensive my apologies to bro elf and to anyone who may think of me as such....but if anyone is offended by the word of God which I speak... I make no apology......
no worry I hold nothing against any man....hope you were not offended by my words ...
and like the scripture says, it's not the doing, but the faith that justifies, even the One our faith is in.
our faith is not in the things we do, but the One we do things for.
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
(Romans 3:28)
don't be afraid that i reject the commandments because i hold the One who gives them in higher regard than the decree.
we're servants of the King not because we have done His will, but because His seal is set on our hearts. we do His will because we are His servants.
He has said many will come to Him saying "Lord, Lord, we did these great things in your name.." and that He never knew them.
He has not said that those who come to Him saying "we believed in your name, and the One who sent you" will be rejected, but He said "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out." (John 6:37)
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First I did not say I rely on man. I rely on the Holy Spirit for guidance.
Second by reading what others more knowledgeable than I wrote can in a way help me come to a better understanding.
Sort of in a way how we learn to talk, read write ect. We learn from more knowledgeable people.
I don't always agree with what others wrote but it can help.
Again first and foremost I rely on the Holy Spirit for understanding.
Even after hearing a sermon, even if it's my dad, I look it up and check it with scripture.
which part are you calling "doctrine of man" ??
that we're justified by faith, not works?
or that whoever believes in the Son of God receives eternal life?
because i am unsure which set of hundreds of scriptural references to point you to.
also, what do you mean "out of context" ?? please show me the true context.
It might be an eye opener to many here to see how some worship and how some baptize in Trinidad and Tobago in Newbirth's neighborhood. "Spiritual baptist" are pretty common there...........
Baptism?
[video=youtube;l4Mqf-14-qY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Mqf-14-qY[/video]
Spiritual Baptist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Worship in the spiritual baptist way
[video=youtube_share;-dNEU3VxROw]http://youtu.be/-dNEU3VxROw[/video]
[video=youtube_share;-dNEU3VxROw]http://youtu.be/-dNEU3VxROw[/video]
which part are you calling "doctrine of man" ??
that we're justified by faith, not works?
or that whoever believes in the Son of God receives eternal life?
because i am unsure which set of hundreds of scriptural references to point you to.
also, what do you mean "out of context" ?? please show me the true context.
don't be afraid that i reject the commandments because i hold the One who gives them in higher regard than the decree.
we're servants of the King not because we have done His will, but because His seal is set on our hearts. we do His will because we are His servants.
He has said many will come to Him saying "Lord, Lord, we did these great things in your name.." and that He never knew them.
He has not said that those who come to Him saying "we believed in your name, and the One who sent you" will be rejected, but He said...
who rejects the commandments of God...rejects God....
1 Samuel 15:23
King James Version
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Mark 3:34-35King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
[SUP]35 [/SUP]For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.