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Re: Jacked...
Elders is a term for Church Leadership, NOT Synagogue Leadership.
As for the most logical explanation of what is the Mark of the Beast, see my post # 25 on this thread: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/97034-mark-beast-666-a-2.html#post1643698
Elders is a term for Church Leadership, NOT Synagogue Leadership.
As for the most logical explanation of what is the Mark of the Beast, see my post # 25 on this thread: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/97034-mark-beast-666-a-2.html#post1643698
Re: Jacked...
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man {Such as a Social Security Number, only it will most likely be comprised of three sets of numbers with six digits in each.}: His number is 666.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man {Such as a Social Security Number, only it will most likely be comprised of three sets of numbers with six digits in each.}: His number is 666.
Re: Gnaw on this...
I have NO PROBLEM using 11 Versions of the English Bible because I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND that the Word of GOD is what it means by what it says, NOT which Translation that I read it in.
Every time that I open my WORDsearch 10 program, I have it set to open the following 11 versions of the Bible. I can set it open more or less as a personal choice.
KJV
ASV
NKJV
NASB
HCSB
NRSV
ESV
NIV
GWT
YLT
ISV
My favorite Three are NKJV, HCSB, and NASB.
I have NO PROBLEM using 11 Versions of the English Bible because I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND that the Word of GOD is what it means by what it says, NOT which Translation that I read it in.
Every time that I open my WORDsearch 10 program, I have it set to open the following 11 versions of the Bible. I can set it open more or less as a personal choice.
KJV
ASV
NKJV
NASB
HCSB
NRSV
ESV
NIV
GWT
YLT
ISV
My favorite Three are NKJV, HCSB, and NASB.
That is right, and that ONE GOD is made up of three personages, Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. NOT three gods, ONE GOD who is all three and all three are co-equally GOD.
Isaiah 6:8 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying: Who should I send? Who will go for Us? I said: Here I am. Send me.
John 1:1 (HCSB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 14:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Jesus said to him, “Have I been among you all this time without your knowing Me, Philip? The one who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Acts 5:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the proceeds from the field?
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Wasn’t it yours while you possessed it? And after it was sold, wasn’t it at your disposal? Why is it that you planned this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God!”
ALL THREE ARE REFERRED TO AS BEING GOD IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES AND THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, WHO IS MADE UP OF THE THREE PERSONAGES:
Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Luke 2:11 (NKJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:19 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Isaiah 6:8 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying: Who should I send? Who will go for Us? I said: Here I am. Send me.
John 1:1 (HCSB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 14:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Jesus said to him, “Have I been among you all this time without your knowing Me, Philip? The one who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Acts 5:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the proceeds from the field?
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Wasn’t it yours while you possessed it? And after it was sold, wasn’t it at your disposal? Why is it that you planned this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God!”
ALL THREE ARE REFERRED TO AS BEING GOD IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES AND THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, WHO IS MADE UP OF THE THREE PERSONAGES:
Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Luke 2:11 (NKJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:19 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
All this part you quoted above of scriptures is true and wonderful! Jesus is my Lord and my God. One Lord.
But the man-stated part, this part quoted, is ignorance and a false God polytheism;
"That is right, and that ONE GOD is made up of three personages, Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. NOT three gods, ONE GOD who is all three and all three are co-equally GOD."
And we are to believe that silly pagan part you added with your own words? You can't fool an Israelite you polytheist!
We know who we Worship. His Name is Jesus. The Savior. Our Lord God. Don't try to push your three headed gods here, I'll be all over you.
But the man-stated part, this part quoted, is ignorance and a false God polytheism;
"That is right, and that ONE GOD is made up of three personages, Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. NOT three gods, ONE GOD who is all three and all three are co-equally GOD."
And we are to believe that silly pagan part you added with your own words? You can't fool an Israelite you polytheist!
We know who we Worship. His Name is Jesus. The Savior. Our Lord God. Don't try to push your three headed gods here, I'll be all over you.
Re: Gnaw on this...
I've memorized the KJV for the most part and use it primarily in all communication. But actually the American Version (AV not ASV) is the most scholarly work done. Many less errors and transliterations than the KJV and more ms to draw on and more varium renderings available for cross testament proofs. But other than that, they are all good to look at, as long as one checks out all varium renderings.
I've memorized the KJV for the most part and use it primarily in all communication. But actually the American Version (AV not ASV) is the most scholarly work done. Many less errors and transliterations than the KJV and more ms to draw on and more varium renderings available for cross testament proofs. But other than that, they are all good to look at, as long as one checks out all varium renderings.
NO We really believe the Bible clearly points out that the SINGULAR GODhead most certainly IS made up of three personages who co-equally are the ONE GOD. NO, it is not polytheism NOR is it's origin based in paganism. You do not understand because you are NOT yet Born Again. The deep things of GOD's Divine Godhead, are NOT understood with the human mind, they are understood with the human spirit AFTER it is brought to eternal life by the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 2:10-16 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
All of the Mainline Christian Denominations believe this, as well as MOST Messianic Congregations.
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I am not sure you understand me, I REPEAT.
THEIR is ONLY ONE GOD, and we Baptize in HIS SINGULAR NAME, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
The Father HE IS GOD.
The Son HE IS GOD.
The Holy Spirit HE IS GOD.
HOW MANY GODS DO WE WORSHIP?
ONE! The only GOD that exists.
Isaiah 43:10-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I alone declared, saved, and proclaimed— and not some foreign god among you. So you are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and I am God.
THEIR is ONLY ONE GOD, and we Baptize in HIS SINGULAR NAME, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
The Father HE IS GOD.
The Son HE IS GOD.
The Holy Spirit HE IS GOD.
HOW MANY GODS DO WE WORSHIP?
ONE! The only GOD that exists.
Isaiah 43:10-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I alone declared, saved, and proclaimed— and not some foreign god among you. So you are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and I am God.
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I believe in the Triune Nature of God. I have a verse that Bowman can study and see what he comes up with.
Regarding the Grand Finale - I submit these verses and verse 28 is one that truly confuses some folks.
We know, "Jesus is GOD" - but this last verse truly does confuse some folk.
I already have my answer but would like to see what Bowman comes up with.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Regarding the Grand Finale - I submit these verses and verse 28 is one that truly confuses some folks.
We know, "Jesus is GOD" - but this last verse truly does confuse some folk.
I already have my answer but would like to see what Bowman comes up with.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
