Mark of the Beast --- 666

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VCO

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Actually that is a good thing. Jack Chick was false prophet that spewed hatred for the Catholics, and flooded a lot of Charismatic and Pentecostal Churches with his cartoon booklets with evil looking faces on Catholics and especially the Pope. Claiming the Antichrist would be a Pope, and the False Prophet is the Catholic Church. His ONLY support for his HATE ministry (By there fruit you will know them.); was that he interpreted the Seven Hills of Rome, as the Seven Mountains in Revelation. Mountains and Horns in prophecy symbolize Kingdoms or Nations, not the Hills of Rome. He stirred up more bitterness and hatred between Protestants and Catholics, than Satan ever did by himself.
 

VCO

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What is Jack Chick?

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Mac.
Like I said above he was False Prophet, famous for stirring up hatred between Protestants and Catholics, back in the 70's and 80's and 90's. His comic book tracts stirred up more trouble than the devil himself. Jack T. Chick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Thank GOD you do not know who he is, as that tells me we are finally getting past the garbage he published.
 

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The harlot is not the Catholic church, stop reading Jack Chick.
You are very correct here...

Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

She is the MOTHER of harlots.
 

Agricola

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Jack Chick is also part of the King James Only Cult.
 
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Thanks for the info, I retired in 78 maybe that is why I did not know about him.
Mac.
 

VCO

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You are very correct here...

Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

She is the MOTHER of harlots.
Let me give you another possible view of this prophecy. John is DESPERATELY trying to describe modern day events that He cannot comprehend. When you read Revelation you have to keep that in mind. From his own reference point of experiences, he was given visions of the End Times, and told to describe what he sees.

In a vision John sees a giant statue that he recognizes as a Babylonian Goddess. Very few people know this but the French artist actually modeled the Statue of Liberty after a small statue of that Babylonian Goddess. Several years ago, before Desert Storm, I saw a film about a group of Pastors that were visiting Iraq, touring ancient ruins. One of their stops was at a large relief carving of a Babylonian Goddess in a cliff, and it was almost identical to the Statue of Liberty, spiked crown and all, only she was holding up a sword.



Now, with John unable to comprehend what he is seeing, but recognizing the huge statue in the harbor; isn't it logical that he would call it "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS".
 
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VCO

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Let me give you another possible view of this prophecy. John is DESPERATELY trying to describe modern day events that He cannot comprehend. When you read Revelation you have to keep that in mind. From his own reference point of experiences, he was given visions of the End Times, and told to describe what he sees.

In a vision John sees a giant statue that he recognizes as a Babylonian Goddess. Very few people know this but the French artist actually modeled the Statue of Liberty after a small statue of that Babylonian Goddess. Several years ago, before Desert Storm, I saw a film about a group of Pastors that were visiting Iraq, touring ancient ruins. One of their stops was at a large relief carving of a Babylonian Goddess in a cliff, and it was almost identical to the Statue of Liberty, spiked crown and all, only she was holding up a sword.



Now, with John unable to comprehend what he is seeing, but recognizing the huge statue in the harbor; isn't it logical that he would call it "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS".
I do not know why that picture did not show up. Try this to see the image that I tried to post. Do a Google search for: Babylonian goddess, now the Statue of Liberty. In the second row of pictures is a side by side close up of the Babylonian Goddess Ishtar and the Statue of Liberty. Makes you think, doesn't it.
 
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"...it looked like this only the size of a contact lens & attached from the outside to forehead or forearm, a virtual computer chip driven first by key pad, then audio, then just satellite..."
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Only if they promise this computer chip will make me a beast at following the bible...I might four or five in my arm and a few in my head, maybe even 1 on my pinky toe.
 

VCO

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You are very correct here...

Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

She is the MOTHER of harlots.

And what do you think John would have called New York City when he saw a giant statue of a famous Babylonian Goddess Ishtar standing in the Harbor.

 
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Read the whole chapter of Rev 13 to get the context. The Beast is a political system, the 10 horns are 10 kings (vs 1). One of the 10 heads receives a deadly wound, meaning a wound to the system (vs 3). The second beast (vs 11) is the anti-Christ, the dragon who gives power to the first beast (vs 4). None of this has happened yet.

So getting to the last verse; "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (Revelation 13:18). Counting the number of the beast denotes the time of the beast, not a name. For this 2nd beast is also the number (time) of a man, meaning the son of perdition, the dragon, the anti-Christ.

The number (time) of the man (Satan) culminates when the 6th seal is opened, the 6th trumpet sounds, and the 6th vial is poured out. That's all 666 represents, it is not a name of a mark. The mark of the beast is representative of those who receive and worship him, on (in ) their forehead means convinced in their mind (brainwashed), and a mark on their right hand (vs 16) is symbolic of doing his (devils) work. So imo, the number simply denotes the time of the anti-Christ's appearance.
[/QUOTE I think you're mistaken. The beast has a deadly wound in one of it's heads, not it's horn
 
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the mark isnt going to be some random motorola based password thing...seriously some peoples interpretation of scripture is absurd.
I know hehe. Seriously, I was laughing so hard at this I think I wet myself a little
 
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The Mark of the Beast in Revelation is applied to a MAN, not Men. And John told his 1st century readers they can know who this man is!!! Revelation 13:18- 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

Now how could the 1st century Christians know this man and calculate his number if this man lives after their life time or in our life time? What an injustice on the part of John who told them they could know who this man is, by the calculation of 600, 60 and 6, and what insignificant it would be for them to know the name of this man if it pertains to someone who lives centuries into the future, long after their death.[/QUOTE I always thought thought the number six has to do with imperfection. And it is the number that represented Man.I've thought about this a little . What if "the number of a man" is speaking to all of us individually. Then the number of a man would be correct for John's time and the end time.it's the number of a man ....we are all man (kind)therefore it refers to our own number. I dont know if it's a written number or mark, that would be pretty easy to recognize.I always think of the saying " of the people ,by the people, and for the people. In a sense this is 666. It also is blasphemous ,in that, Jesus says that all things are of him , by him ,and for him. Man is taking the seat of God in this case.Just some thought that come to mind sometimes.
 
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The number 666 in Greek and Hebrew adds up to "Neron Caesar", Nero Caesar.
It's the name of Nero, the Roman Emperor, ruling romans in rome

John was writing Revelation sometime around 64 AD.
in the time of danials statue of roman

17And that no man might buy or sell,
save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

1st HEAD of prophetic BABYLON
The CHALDEAN EMPIRE
(Babylon)
625-539 B.C.

2nd HEAD of prophetic BABYLON
The PERSIAN EMPIRE
(Medo-Persia)
558-330 B.C.

3rd, 4th, 5th,6th HEADS of BABYLON
GREECE, under
Alexander the Great,
and four divisions,
began 333 B.C.

7th HEAD of BABYLON,
with 10 HORNS

The ROMAN EMPIRE
in two divisions,
West and East
31 B.C.-A.D. 476

cathloc church is the little horn


rest of statues are about unholy roman empire[/QUOTEia head of gold = babylon, breast and arms of silver= Medea -Persia, Belly and thighs of brass=greece, legs of Iron=roman, Feet of iron and miry clay= The last kingdom that will be struck with the stone and destroys all the kingdoms and sets up an everlasting kingdom. Clay represents man and weakness, Iron represents strength.It says In Daniel the iron wont cleave to the clay cleave together and be partly strong and partly broken. Another interesting verse about the anti -christ is that he will honor the God of forces(strength of Iron)We all know what political principality has the strongest military,And heaps money at it constantly. The clay,representing People, indicates to me that the government will be by the people , but backed up by its military strength.The previously mentioned "head receiving a deadly wound and was healed ,will make the world wander after the beast. Democracy was really born in Greece,with the senate, voting,ect But seemingly died until revived by our current democratic system ,which alot of the world is wandering after, Promising liberty , but as we all know ,are servants of corruption. Enough said ,probably to much. Weakness Grace and peace in Christ Jesus our lord
 
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The best thing to do is trust in the work of the cross and you want have to worry about it. But, the mark is not anything that is deceit, you know what your doing when you take it and many will do it because of their children and other reasons. It can't be forced or that would defy the morals of God, it must be taken willingly and knowing what you are doing.
 

VCO

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The number 666 in Greek and Hebrew adds up to "Neron Caesar", Nero Caesar.
It's the name of Nero, the Roman Emperor, ruling romans in rome

John was writing Revelation sometime around 64 AD.
in the time of danials statue of roman

17And that no man might buy or sell,
save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

1st HEAD of prophetic BABYLON
The CHALDEAN EMPIRE
(Babylon)
625-539 B.C.

2nd HEAD of prophetic BABYLON
The PERSIAN EMPIRE
(Medo-Persia)
558-330 B.C.

3rd, 4th, 5th,6th HEADS of BABYLON
GREECE, under
Alexander the Great,
and four divisions,
began 333 B.C.

7th HEAD of BABYLON,
with 10 HORNS

The ROMAN EMPIRE
in two divisions,
West and East
31 B.C.-A.D. 476

cathloc church is the little horn


rest of statues are about unholy roman empire[/QUOTEia head of gold = babylon, breast and arms of silver= Medea -Persia, Belly and thighs of brass=greece, legs of Iron=roman, Feet of iron and miry clay= The last kingdom that will be struck with the stone and destroys all the kingdoms and sets up an everlasting kingdom. Clay represents man and weakness, Iron represents strength.It says In Daniel the iron wont cleave to the clay cleave together and be partly strong and partly broken. Another interesting verse about the anti -christ is that he will honor the God of forces(strength of Iron)We all know what political principality has the strongest military,And heaps money at it constantly. The clay,representing People, indicates to me that the government will be by the people , but backed up by its military strength.The previously mentioned "head receiving a deadly wound and was healed ,will make the world wander after the beast. Democracy was really born in Greece,with the senate, voting,ect But seemingly died until revived by our current democratic system ,which alot of the world is wandering after, Promising liberty , but as we all know ,are servants of corruption. Enough said ,probably to much. Weakness Grace and peace in Christ Jesus our lord

The NERO theory died decades ago.
 

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Nero is a possible fit, but not only once:

1.


2. Revelation 17:10 - The seven kings. If Revelation was written before 70AD, in the mid 60's, then Revelation 17:10 fits as well. Nero is the one that is, and Galba is the one who reigned a short time of 6 to 7 months.

1. Julius Caesar (fallen = dead)
2. Augustus (fallen)
3. Tiberius (fallen)
4. Caligula (fallen)
5. Claudius (fallen)
6. Nero (one that is)
7. Galba (only in power for 6-7 months, a short time)


10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is,and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
You are using gematria to interpret scriptures? Gematria is the ancient numerology system used by Babylonian magicians. You cannot use something considered an abomination to accurately interpret the scriptures.
 

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yes cathlic church is the little horn

rome is what had the deadly wound that was healed.

the 7 hills are times in which the unholy roman empire arose.

germany became and is now rome, with the church.

hitler was the 6th resercutions of this system.

europe combined, the 5 kings in east and 5 kings in west, with strong german leader to arise.

clay and iron is these 10 toes, east west comming together for short time.

nero is 666 also this whole roman empire.

intersting to do study how the name nero was given and handed down

the whole world is calling for help and looking to germany,

even the Jews in Isreal asking them for help.

the cathloc church is calling the world to establish sunday laws
 

VCO

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yes cathlic church is the little horn

rome is what had the deadly wound that was healed.

the 7 hills are times in which the unholy roman empire arose.

germany became and is now rome, with the church.

hitler was the 6th resercutions of this system.

europe combined, the 5 kings in east and 5 kings in west, with strong german leader to arise.

clay and iron is these 10 toes, east west comming together for short time.

nero is 666 also this whole roman empire.

intersting to do study how the name nero was given and handed down

the whole world is calling for help and looking to germany,

even the Jews in Isreal asking them for help.

the cathloc church is calling the world to establish sunday laws

Been reading writing by the false prophets Ellen White and A. Jan Marcussen I see.