What of the dinosaurs?

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Back then they have believe that the Lion is the king of all beasts because of its strength, agility, and able to flex in many positions and has sharp claws and long sharp teeth and which an T-Rex is limited. Most animals fear them because of those reasons which they know it isn't even a challenge. And so they had use a man head and a lions body to put fear in someones eyes, like a scare-crow. On this image they used the head of an lion and the body of something else. If a T-Rex trip and fall during a battle with a lion, it will be defenseless against the lion.
I will ask you again. Do you now agree now that the so-called sauropods on the Egyptian seal are actually stylized, long-necked lions? The same motif is used on the Egyptian artifact shown below:


Long-necked lions appear to have been a popular motif in Egypt. Yes? You agree?
 
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Here's an ancient egyptian depiction of lions. The Egyptians depict lions and other felines very consistently. So we can of course see the dinosaurs on the Narmer Palette are in fact not lions.

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Article with other lion or lion-like depictions and a revisionist outlook on ancient egyptian lion lore: The Lions of Egypt, Pharaonic
 
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The story about mermaids must of derived from a fish that had walked on the shores
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There are no fish that walk on land that I know of.

That's about as far-fetched as a man riding a T. rex, or otherwise interacting.
 
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I will ask you again. Do you now agree now that the so-called sauropods on the Egyptian seal are actually stylized, long-necked lions? The same motif is used on the Egyptian artifact shown below:


Long-necked lions appear to have been a popular motif in Egypt. Yes? You agree?
It look as if it is lion with a stretched neck, but a dual nature of two or more creature. But what about the cylinders and the dragon vase? That dragon doesn't look like any chipmunk that I've never seen.
 

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having read the last several posts, sounds to me like a matter of how one deals with the data one receives from the senses, how that data is organized. My feeling is, Go with what brings you joy.
 
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The story about mermaids must of derived from a fish that had walked on the shores
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There are no fish that walk on land that I know of.

That's about as far-fetched as a man riding a T. rex, or otherwise interacting.


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Dec 18, 2013
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The story about mermaids must of derived from a fish that had walked on the shores
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There are no fish that walk on land that I know of.

That's about as far-fetched as a man riding a T. rex, or otherwise interacting.
What is far-fetched to some is often times not so far-fetched in reality. A fish that can traverse the land? Behold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAz7iMcC8e0

[video=youtube;aAz7iMcC8e0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAz7iMcC8e0[/video]

(No mudkips memes please, I have seen too many before.)
 
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It look as if it is lion with a stretched neck, but a dual nature of two or more creature. But what about the cylinders and the dragon vase? That dragon doesn't look like any chipmunk that I've never seen.
What Cycel is trying to illustrate is that the people who carved animals in ancient times may have taken certain Artistic liberties with how they may have looked.
 
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Attempts have been made to date the figures using thermoluminescence (TL) dating. The earliest results, from tests done when TL dating was in its infancy, suggested a date around 2500 BC.[SUP][5][/SUP] However, later tests contradicted these findings. In 1976, Gary W. Carriveau and Mark C. Han attempted to date twenty Acámbaro figures using TL dating. They found that the figures had been fired at temperatures between 450 °C and 650 °C, which contradicted claims that these figures had been fired at temperatures too low for them to be accurately dated. However, all of the samples failed the "plateau test", which indicated that dates obtained for the Acámbaro figures using standard high-temperature TL dating techniques were unreliable and lacked any chronological significance. Based on the degree of signal regeneration found in remeasured samples, they estimated that the figures tested had been fired approximately 30 years prior to 1969.[SUP][9]

[/SUP] Remember they had dated the figures 2500 BC and which that means that science is playing a guessing game. They did it with the shroud of Turin and so on, and which they has their own belief system of how old things are by comparing it with other things or methods that they believe of certain age. And so can science explain how the pyramid was built? How did those massive stones were laid on top of one another in perfect formation that you can't even slide a credit card between them? Right if someone has thrown their underwear in the laundry, they can come up with a theory that it has been in the laundry for decades by measuring the dirt and grime that was in the material itself.

The 5,300 Year Old Mesopotamian Diplodocus on an ancient cylinder seal.




This ancient cylinder seal, currently housed at the Louvre Museum portrays sauropod like creatures as well as giant “birds” or pterosaurs. The seal is from Mesopotamia, approximately 3300 B.C. (Moortgart, Anton, The Art of Ancient Mesopotamia, 1969, plate 292., presumably seen by the artist.

I would ask that the interested reader note the points of similarity between a close-up of the “sauropod” depiction created by rolling the cylinder with the skull of Diplodocus Longus. This is the basis for me to call this creature and the consistent comparisons below diplodocus depictions.







It may not be possible to readily identify the specific similarity of the Euhelopus sauropod depiction with that of the Tang Dynasty artifact. On the right we’ve placed the unedited drawing of the Euhelopus skull (except that we tinted it red) on top of the artifact for comparison. What do you think? Bird or sauropod?










These Neolithic Cultural Jades differ from the traditionally collected “burial jades” from the traditional archeological burial sites of Hongshan and Liangchu, discovered in the 1920s and 1930s.Source


Here it is shown in comparison to Yangchuanosaurus. “Yangchuanosaurus is an extinct genus of metriacanthosaurid theropod dinosaur that lived in China during the late Oxfordian (and possibly Kimmeridgian) stage of the Late Jurassic, and was similar in size and appearance to its North American contemporary, Allosaurus.
It hails from the Upper Shaximiao Formation and was the largest predator in a landscape which included the sauropods Mamenchisaurus and Omeisaurus as well as the Stegosaurs Chialingosaurus, Tuojiangosaurus and Chungkingosaurus”…Wikipedia
Remove the neck from those 'dinosaurs' on those cylenders and just put the head straight on the body and you've easily got a Bear, A tiger, a panther etc.

Isn't that a much simpler explanation?
 
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Plus, I just zoomed into the image on my phone and took a screenshot. Aren't they the same head?

Those dinosaurs didn't have much variety did they!

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Ive just made an important discovery.

Whoever carved that cylinder was also was alive the same time as SIMBA from The Lion King!

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Walking fish, sometimes called ambulatory fish, is a general term that refers to fish that are able to travel over land for extended periods of time.
I have difficulty calling it "walking" when body parts other than legs and feet are used for moving about. People with no legs can move about on the ground, but I don't call it walking.

I can see, however, how you could mistake a mudskipper for a mermaid (see pic below), even though mudskippers are usually around six inches long. Just as you got confused about lions and sauropods.
 

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What is far-fetched to some is often times not so far-fetched in reality. A fish that can traverse the land? Behold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAz7iMcC8e0

[video=youtube;aAz7iMcC8e0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAz7iMcC8e0[/video]

(No mudkips memes please, I have seen too many before.)
These mudskippers have been around for how many millions of years?

400 millions of years, give or take a million or two or ten?

But we have some on this thread who would have us believe that mudskippers were created a mere 6,000 years ago?

How is one to resolve such a drastic discrepancy?

Somebody get me a Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) video quick.
 
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These mudskippers have been around for how many millions of years?

400 millions of years, give or take a million or two or ten?

But we have some on this thread who would have us believe that mudskippers were created a mere 6,000 years ago?

How is one to resolve such a drastic discrepancy?

Somebody get me a Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) video quick.
Lol you do realize you've invoked Kent Hovind more than anyone else in this whole thread. Do you need Kent Hovind to tell you there's no actual evidence of millions of years? Does it take Kent Hovind for someone to realize through their own research the notion of a millions of years old earth is an arbitrary guess founded upon unreliable and discreditted techniques like radio-atomic dating and illogic like dating rock strata by fossils and fossils by rock strata?

Though speaking of the index fossils, this reminds me of an example that once made me eat my own atheist garbage long ago but on the plus side, it did begin the long process of dispelling the Old Earth mythology for me. Enter the Coelacanth:
Smithsonian Institution - The Coelacanth: More Living than Fossil

Claimed by the ancient atheists to have died millions of years ago this fascinating creature was discovered off the coast of Africa in the 1900s AD. While this alone is enough to make any reasonable person at least question the notion of the fictional Old Earth, the real catch you won't find mentioned too frequently by atheists is that Coelacanth actually used to be used as an index fossil.

Lol, there is no discrepancy, the Mudskipper has been skipping around while Coelacanth has been swimming to and fro only for the few thousand years there is any actual evidence of.
 
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Though speaking of the index fossils, this reminds me of an example that once made me eat my own atheist garbage long ago but on the plus side, it did begin the long process of dispelling the Old Earth mythology for me. Enter the Coelacanth:
Smithsonian Institution - The Coelacanth: More Living than Fossil
From the very first paragraph of your very own source: "The most recent fossil record dates from about 80 mya but the earliest records date back as far as approximately 360 mya."

360 millions of years ago?

Do say.
 
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From the very first paragraph of your very own source: "The most recent fossil record dates from about 80 mya but the earliest records date back as far as approximately 360 mya."

360 millions of years ago?

Do say.
Lol well that's the point. How do they date it to 360 million years ago, and yet Coelacanth is still swimming around in this time? So as you can see there is a massive gap between what is being dictated to people and what is in reality.

Coelacanth provides an interesting paradox for the evolutionists and atheists. On one hand if you accept Coelacanth and the earth are at least 360 million years old, that just proves right there evolution is not true elsewise Coelacanth would have evolved by now into a totally different creature. On the other hand if you accept evolution then Coelacanth and the world cannot be anywhere close to millions of years old as they'd still require a longer duration of time to properly evolve.

So we have to ask ourselves; is there a logical alternative? Indeed there is, and that would be that both evolution and the old earth mythology are both wrong and the earth and Coelacanth were created by God within only the few thousands of years that are known to have existed.
 
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both evolution and the old earth mythology are both wrong and the earth and Coelacanth were created by God within only the few thousands of years that are known to have existed.
A conversation with you is like talking to a 3.96 billion-year-old rock.

What would convince you that the world is not 6,000 years old?

Now, I really don't care if this rock is 3.96 billion years old or a million years old, or whatever. I'll go with how old the overwhelming consensus of those qualified to determine the rock's age say it is.

Incidentally, I doubt this rock evolved any. So evolution and age of the world are not necessarily related.

The oldest known rock
 
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First, you will never get an athiest to repent of his sins by proving or disproving dinasaurs. Secondly, we know very little to nothing about dinasaurs in the first place.
We might not know much about dinasaurs, but we know quite a bit about dinosaurs.

We know non-avian dinosaurs went extinct around 65 million years ago.

Since that was long before humans arrived on the scene, it is not likely that man ate T. rex, or vice-versa.

If you can't believe National Geographic, who can you believe?

Dr. Dino?

Dinosaur Extinction, Cretaceous-Tertiary Extinction Information, Prehistoric Facts -- National Geographic
 

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why is it that people can believe in god who they cant see and cant believe in something else that they have seen evidence of?
im not athiest i just dont understand god or why someone i never met would die for me that be like saying if u walked into a bank and they was 10 people in there besides the guys robbing the bank and they say 5 people can leave, r u gunna say to the robbers, Hey pick me to stay?
 
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A conversation with you is like talking to a 3.96 billion-year-old rock.

What would convince you that the world is not 6,000 years old?

Now, I really don't care if this rock is 3.96 billion years old or a million years old, or whatever. I'll go with how old the overwhelming consensus of those qualified to determine the rock's age say it is.

Incidentally, I doubt this rock evolved any. So evolution and age of the world are not necessarily related.

The oldest known rock
A rock and a living breathing fish are different ... Why can't you answer his question instead of comparing him to a rock?